Brandon Scott Lavergne - Guilty Plea and LWOP

[Canaille]

I do not think it is mean of you, Ixchel. IMO, it perhaps is the majority of thought amongst us here. A walking, breathing, CONFESSED rapist, murderer in our world. We no longer hang em...Can't perform Cajun justice. We are a 'civilized' society, so we cart them off to prison. By what other fashion should Warden Cain run his prison? 5000ish lifers. Once the demonic entity has escaped many of their souls, many are left with no alternative than to embrace Christianity.

As for as for forgiveness...well, (where's Mama Roux when you need her!)
I haven't worked my way there yet.

BBM

Not mean at all. I think it's natural to have these thoughts and feelings.

I don't want to find out one day that he and other inmates are dressed in prison garb dancing to "Thriller" on some YouTube video!


I pray for his SOUL not his body or mind. I have to say, I think this is the first case I've ever seen that has motivated me to pray for those incarcerated. I think it has made me realize just how present the evil is in this world.

 

[Canaille]

Mama Roux, although I agree that we will all be judged for our sins, I don't believe all sins are the same to God. But, I also think we don't really know how God weighs sins.
For example, the Bible says pride is a sin. IMO being overly proud, sinfully proud, is not
the same as raping, torturing, and killing a person.
I know what you mean, though. When I was younger, I drank and drove a few times.
Now, every time I read about a drunk driver killing someone, I feel like I might've killed them, I'll never lose that guilt even though it was only a few times long ago.

BBM

If I'm not mistaken, it was pride that sent the devil to hell. I'm kind of of the same thought or opinion as you are. I'd like to believe that God judges our sins based on what we have been given in our lives.

 

[OceanMetTheSky]

Hi everyone.
Although I'm a local, I was unfamiliar with Dean Street. The road that meets with Collesium where Mickey was abducted. I went there today. To my surprise, dean street is a street that is basically just a neighborhood. It is nothing but houses. How bsl bumped Mickey here without anyone seeing or hearing anything even at 2 a. m. I have no idea.

This is right down from circle k. That means that no more than a minute or less later, the last image we saw of Mickey riding her bike, were the last few seconds before being abducted.
..
Seeing the actual street and knowing she was taken a few seconds after the circle k surveillance pictures breaks me up.

Such a sad thing.

 

[Ihavenoname]

Hi everyone.
Although I'm a local, I was unfamiliar with Dean Street. The road that meets with Collesium where Mickey was abducted. I went there today. To my surprise, dean street is a street that is basically just a neighborhood. It is nothing but houses. How bsl bumped Mickey here without anyone seeing or hearing anything even at 2 a. m. I have no idea.

This is right down from circle k. That means that no more than a minute or less later, the last image we saw of Mickey riding her bike, were the last few seconds before being abducted.
..
Seeing the actual street and knowing she was taken a few seconds after the circle k surveillance pictures breaks me up.

Such a sad thing.

I think it took her more than a few seconds to get from the Circle K to Deans street. It is a few blocks and at least 3/4 of a mile.

 

[OceanMetTheSky]

I think it took her more than a few seconds to get from the Circle K to Deans street. It is a few blocks and at least 3/4 of a mile.

Well going about five miles an hour took me less than a minute and Mickey's sister stated that her sister flew like a bird when on a bike.

I can't say for sure, but it was most certainly less than a few minutes after the pics, and that's if she was going like 5 mph

 

[Ihavenoname]

Well going about five miles an hour took me less than a minute and Mickey's sister stated that her sister flew like a bird when on a bike.

I can't say for sure, but it was most certainly less than a few minutes after the pics, and that's if she was going like 2 mph

I am not calling you out or anything but I am very familiar with the area and it seems like you were able to travel that area very fast. When you leave the Circle K heading toward Coliseum, you will travel past a stop light(might of caught it green) at the funeral home, then continue on St. Landry, then the street narrows down and there are speed bumps, then Deans street at the end. I guess you know what you are talking about but to make it that fast is something that I didn't think would of been done. I have travel that area often before and after this has happened but you know what you did and it is what it is.
You are covering 9 long city blocks not counting the long block that LCG sits on.

 

[OceanMetTheSky]

Why would I make up traveling to Dean Street or the time it took me haha?

And I suppose it depends on where you start on st. Landry. But I could see the circle k behind me and got there less than a minute. So regardless of the exact second count it wasn't long. It's right by lourdes. But like you said, depends on stop lights and stuff. I'd assume if Mickey felt like she was being followed, shed have been going pretty fast also.

I was just letting people know the street was nothing like I pictured ha. I expected dark and remote rather than a pretty crammed neighborhood. Not sure how dark it is there at night.
And how sad it is that the picture of her was shortly before she was taken.

 

[justwundering]

I was just letting people know the street was nothing like I pictured ha. I expected dark and remote rather than a pretty crammed neighborhood. Not sure how dark it is there at night.
And how sad it is that the picture of her was shortly before she was taken.

I thought she was hit in the area between Dean and Coliseum. I haven't been down that road in a long, long time, but, I thought that stretch was open. (In fact I thought at one time there was fence running along Dean with a gate across St Landry at the University property.) I'm not sure.

 

[Ihavenoname]

Why would I make up traveling to Dean Street or the time it took me haha?

And I suppose it depends on where you start on st. Landry. But I could see the circle k behind me and got there less than a minute. So regardless of the exact second count it wasn't long. It's right by lourdes. But like you said, depends on stop lights and stuff. I'd assume if Mickey felt like she was being followed, shed have been going pretty fast also.

I was just letting people know the street was nothing like I pictured ha. I expected dark and remote rather than a pretty crammed neighborhood. Not sure how dark it is there at night.
And how sad it is that the picture of her was shortly before she was taken.

I think you didn't go far enough to find Dean Street, if you can still see the Circle K, you are not at Dean Street. Look at Google Earth and it will show you how much space and stuff is in the way.
Sorry for disagreeing.

 

[reedus23]

Before accepting a guilty plea, the court had to be satisfied with his acknowledgment of the evidence against him. Keep in mind we haven't heard BSL's allocution (the recorded confession).

So true. Here is my understanding however. When pleading guilty, the defendant must not only acknowledge the evidence against him, but is admitting to the facts as alleged. A Nolo Contendere plea does not include an admission of the facts but, as you indicated, an acknowledgement of the evidence against him. If you read the plea document, you will see that the pleading basically repeats itself in form for the Count relating to Lisa and the Count against Mickey, with the specifics being filled in for each. You will notice on Page 4 it states "The Defendant cannot enter a plea of nolo contendere..."

While this paragraph appears almost verbatim on Page 10 as it relates to Mickey's Count, you will notice that the above quoted sentence is not present. In it's place is the following "The Defendant, and his counsel, affirm and agree that this factual basis is is indeed true, correct and accurate. The Defendant affirms and agrees that he is, in fact, guilty of the First Degree Murder of Michaela Shunick." This language is much more in keeping with a guilty plea as I understand it. The language in Lisa's count does not include an admission of guilt. So my only point really was that it looked like they were trying to do a nolo contendere plea (where there is no admission of guilt) on Lisa's case, but still called it a guilty plea in light of the fact that a nolo contendere plea cannot be entered in a capital case.

I'm sure it was all gone over with a fine tooth comb to make sure it was in order, but working on the proposition that BSL will appeal his guilty plea, I was trying to guess what issues he might raise. I'm not familiar with Louisiana law, so it really is all me just trying to anticipate what arguments BSL might make.

 

[reedus23]

That is true ; however, in the plea agreement, BSL and attorneys readily acknowledge that given the evidence, the risks off not accepting is too great to risk a DP sentence. So, its easy for the court to accept. I still say that BSL out-negotiated DA. IMO, BSL actually felt justified in klling Lisa since she voluntarily accompanied him to the motel, and after all, she tried to steal his wallet and truck....and all Stutes wanted to do is get any plea that would put BSL anyway for life signed...........

My point is, and I could have read right over it, he never even admits to killing Lisa, much less that he was justified. I mean even when taking a guilty plea on a DWI, a Judge will ask, had you been drinking? Had you been driving? And the defendant admits to it. Well, in the Plea Document, at least as far as I saw, he admits guilt of killing Mickey but never admitted to killing Lisa. Period. So I don't think you will ever hear him saying that killing Lisa was justified, he will just flat out say he didn't do it.

 

[B4igo2it]

We never know who is lurking and where! I am so scared of the evil that surrounds us. I live in Spring, TX (probably very close to BSL's mother & sister) - the thought of him lurking in my area really freaks me out and I truly thank God that he is locked up and no longer a threat to any innocent woman he should encounter. I feel so sorry for his victims and their families ... :tears:

 

[Crimson clover]

BBM

Not mean at all. I think it's natural to have these thoughts and feelings.

I don't want to find out one day that he and other inmates are dressed in prison garb dancing to "Thriller" on some YouTube video!


I pray for his SOUL not his body or mind. I have to say, I think this is the first case I've ever seen that has motivated me to pray for those incarcerated. I think it has made me realize just how present the evil is in this world.

On behalf of all fathers, mothers, children, brothers, sisters, paws, maws, husbands, wives, aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews, cousins, friends...of an incarcerated individual...I thank you for your motivation, Canaille.

Evil presents itself in many auras. Awareness in recognizing its presence is essential. Like approaching an angry, foaming-at-the-mouth pitbull. How strong are we to 'eye' him down?

 

[Crimson clover]

We never know who is lurking and where! I am so scared of the evil that surrounds us. I live in Spring, TX (probably very close to BSL's mother & sister) - the thought of him lurking in my area really freaks me out and I truly thank God that he is locked up and no longer a threat to any innocent woman he should encounter. I feel so sorry for his victims and their families ... :tears:

Be not afraid, B4. Keep thanking God...and we got ya back!

 

[Some1Nose]

BBM

Not mean at all. I think it's natural to have these thoughts and feelings.

I don't want to find out one day that he and other inmates are dressed in prison garb dancing to "Thriller" on some YouTube video!
I pray for his SOUL not his body or mind. I have to say, I think this is the first case I've ever seen that has motivated me to pray for those incarcerated. I think it has made me realize just how present the evil is in this world.

BBM

Thanks for the laugh, me thinks we have a simialr sense of humor and vivid imaginations! :rocker:

 

[danzn16]

I still want to know how LE knew after they found BSL that Mickey was deceased and that was no real rush to find her alive. Because BSL was not talking and did not confess then. What kind of evidence did they find at his house or whereever that lead them to believe this information? I don't believe it was the truck since they said that was so thoroughly burnt. Will we ever have all the information released to us about the case?

 

[justwundering]

I still want to know how LE knew after they found BSL that Mickey was deceased and that was no real rush to find her alive. Because BSL was not talking and did not confess then. What kind of evidence did they find at his house or whereever that lead them to believe this information? I don't believe it was the truck since they said that was so thoroughly burnt. Will we ever have all the information released to us about the case?

As I recall, the indictment contained several initials of parties willing to testify against BSL, including those of his brother. Given BSLs penchant for talking about his activities, perhaps he told someone who then advised LE???

 

[justwannahelp]

i am confused about the family tree now. who is his biological father? not Cynthia's first husband (BSL's adoptive father), correct? also, if a babysitter sexually abused him as a toddler, did Cynthia and the adoptive father press charges?? I'm a little suspicious of this claim of his. I'm not trying to be cold, but couldn't this just be another "i'm the victim" story of his? I'm not convinced yet one way or the other. has anyone been able to sleuth this babysitter successfully?

 

[justwannahelp]

so the man that was in the hospital that BSL visited right before he murdered Mickey - is that man the adoptive father with paranoid schizophrenia?

i wish someone would make a family tree of some sort. it doesn't REALLY matter, but i'd like to be able to wrap my mind around that

 

[justwannahelp]

I thought she was hit in the area between Dean and Coliseum. I haven't been down that road in a long, long time, but, I thought that stretch was open. (In fact I thought at one time there was fence running along Dean with a gate across St Landry at the University property.) I'm not sure.

point A is in front of the Circle K and point B is where I think she was taken. you can look at the street here on google. there's a big open field after the neighborhood area ends

http://goo.gl/maps/PtqcB