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  • #861
dragonfly707
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The counts of the charges

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1. One count first degree murder.

2. One count felony murder.

3. one count first degree kidnapping

4. one count second degree kidnapping

5. one count of sexual assault on a child
 
  • #862
Wudge said:
Obviously, that was not good news for the defense. At the same time, his absence in 1996 family photos reinforces the D.A.'s belief that Karr is likely the murderer.

Moreover, yesterday, the D.A,.s team spent the day with Karr family members, and if Karr was found in Xmas photos from say 1994, 1995, 1997, 1998 but was absent in 1996, then the D.A. will use his absence in 1996 as yet another piece of circumstantial evidence that favors Karr murdered Jon Benet.
Hoping that D.A. Lacy has a bit more than that Wudge. LOL
 
  • #863
Karr Won't Fight Extradition
Suspect In JonBenet Ramsey Murder Agrees To Face Charges In Colorado

LOS ANGELES, Aug. 22, 2006

(CBS/AP) John Mark Karr waived extradition Tuesday and agreed to be sent to Colorado to face charges in the 1996 murder of 6-year-old JonBenet Ramsey.

Karr, speaking quietly and calmly, affirmed his decision in an appearance before Superior Court Commissioner James N. Bianco after the Los Angeles County district attorney's office charged him with being a fugitive from justice.

The L.A. court was told Karr faced five charges in Colorado including murder, kidnapping, and sexual assault.

On Sunday, Karr voluntarily accompanied a Boulder County district attorney's investigator on a flight from Thailand to Los Angeles, where he was jailed.

The court said Boulder authorities must pick up Karr by Sept. 6.

The Boulder County sheriff's office said Monday it would not share any plans for the transfer.

"Normally, once an inmate being held in another jurisdiction has waived extradition," Sheriff Joe Pelle said Monday, "we will be contacted by that agency and notified to pick the inmate up."


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/21/national/main1914523.shtml
 
  • #864
Peter Hamilton said:
Karr is in a glass enclosure?? this is too funny
I just want to know if they are going to drop him in via one of those "claw" things or if the glass box will lower down over him ala "the cone of silence". (And will his counsel be in the box with him?)
 
  • #865
Wudge--lol--that doesn't mean anything--he could'v gone to the Grand canyon for all we know--There is no evidence whatsoever to tie Karr to the crime
 
  • #866
The cone of silence!--lol--Get Smart
 
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  • #868
Wudge said:
Obviously, that was not good news for the defense. At the same time, his absence in 1996 family photos reinforces the D.A.'s belief that Karr is likely the murderer.

Moreover, yesterday, the D.A,.s team spent the day with Karr family members, and if Karr was found in Xmas photos from say 1994, 1995, 1997, 1998 but was absent in 1996, then the D.A. will use his absence in 1996 as yet another piece of circumstantial evidence that favors Karr murdered Jon Benet.

Wouldn't it be something if his ex wife did in fact find some pictures but chose not to share them, just quietly burn evey one!!

OB
 
  • #869
Buzzm1 said:
Hoping that D.A. Lacy has a bit more than that Wudge. LOL


Buzz, as things now stand, unless DNA exclusion were to be deemed a master defense trump card or Karr turns out to be another Brian David Mitchell, the D.A. is going to present a strong case just based on what we know so far, such as:

Karr's confession that places himself at the scene of the crime, and Karr's claim JonBenet's death was accidental; i.e., in his mind, her death was not intended and his claim that the proper charge is second-degree murder.

Karr's clearly emerging profile as very, very troubled with, at the very least, strong implications of an interest in child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 to potentially being a pedophile.

Handwriting experts, such as Baggett, who will testify that the probability the ransom note was written by Karr is extremely high.

Karr's emails to Patsy, the professor, and his internet postings that are almost assuredly going to be said to contain non public domain information about the case. The more examples of which the D.A. can present to the jury, the more probative this would become.

Karr's closing in his year book (Shall Be The Conqueror) matching the mysterious acronym closing in the ransom note (S.B.T.C.).

Plus, potentially, his 1996 photo absence turning out to be circumstantial evidence that State might be able to use as inculpatory circumstantial evidence (as I explained in my prior post).

I hold Karr to be presumed innocent, but, as things stand now like Karr's confession et al, the defense is going to need something more than they possess at this moment in time.
 
  • #870
good point--she hates him--why save thm--What would be really funny is if she cropped him out of all the pictures but still says that's him! who else would I crop out?? she'll ask? proof that he was there! lol
 
  • #871
Old Broad said:
Wouldn't it be something if his ex wife did in fact find some pictures but chose not to share them, just quietly burn every one!!

OB
LOL Old Broad, nothing worse than a divorced woman still carrying the hatchet.
 
  • #872
Old Broad said:
Wouldn't it be something if his ex wife did in fact find some pictures but chose not to share them, just quietly burn evey one!!

OB

he he :laugh: especially if he decides to take back his confession and needs her help..
 
  • #873
Buzzm1 said:
LOL Old Broad, nothing worse than a divorced woman still carrying the hatchet.
Except your ex-husband preparing for a sex-change operation and being charged with the biggest cold case child murder in decades!:croc:

Edited to add: AND he has bigger breastesses & tighter eye makeup than you do!:eek:
 
  • #874
Old Broad said:
Wouldn't it be something if his ex wife did in fact find some pictures but chose not to share them, just quietly burn evey one!!

OB

His wife would not want her three boys to unnecessarily carry the burden of Karr being the murderer. I feel for her, this has to be a nightmare for her and the family.
 
  • #875
Wudge said:
His wife would not want her three boys to unnecessarily carry the burden of Karr being the murderer. I feel for her, this has to be a nightmare for her and the family.
Wudge, I absolutely agree with you. Those poor kids already carry the stigma of their dad being convicted of possessing kiddie 🤬🤬🤬🤬. It's hard to imagine it getting worse.
 
  • #876
Wudge said:
His wife would not want her three boys to unnecessarily carry the burden of Karr being the murderer. I feel for her, this has to be a nightmare for her and the family.

I agree, Wudge... :( This has to be hard on them..
 
  • #877
Karr, represented by a public defender, kept a blank expression as the judge read the charges of first-degree murder, felony murder, first-degree kidnapping, second-degree kidnapping and sexual assault on a child. He slowly closed his eyes when he heard the murder charge.

The two-minute hearing before Superior Court Commissioner James Bianco means Karr could return to Colorado as early as Tuesday afternoon.

The Boulder County sheriff's office said Monday it would not share any plans for the transfer.

"Normally, once an inmate being held in another jurisdiction has waived extradition," Sheriff Joe Pelle said Monday, "we will be contacted by that agency and notified to pick the inmate up."


http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-08-22-karr-ramsey-hearing_x.htm?csp=34
 
  • #878
Buzzm1 said:
Karr, represented by a public defender, kept a blank expression as the judge read the charges of first-degree murder, felony murder, first-degree kidnapping, second-degree kidnapping and sexual assault on a child. He slowly closed his eyes when he heard the murder charge.

The two-minute hearing before Superior Court Commissioner James Bianco means Karr could return to Colorado as early as Tuesday afternoon.

The Boulder County sheriff's office said Monday it would not share any plans for the transfer.

"Normally, once an inmate being held in another jurisdiction has waived extradition," Sheriff Joe Pelle said Monday, "we will be contacted by that agency and notified to pick the inmate up."


http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-08-22-karr-ramsey-hearing_x.htm?csp=34http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-08-22-karr-ramsey-hearing_x.htm?csp=34
buzz clear your pm box please.
I must have filled it up.
 
  • #879
Wudge said:
His wife would not want her three boys to unnecessarily carry the burden of Karr being the murderer. I feel for her, this has to be a nightmare for her and the family.

Oh I do also! IMO she was a victim way back when he got her pregnant at 16. He was a preditor then and I admire how she booted him out when the child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 charges came out. Her 3 sons will suffer greatly I'm afraid from what their father has done, no matter which way this unfolds.

OB
 
  • #880
Anita Richman said:
Wudge, I absolutely agree with you. Those poor kids already carry the stigma of their dad being convicted of possessing kiddie 🤬🤬🤬🤬. It's hard to imagine it getting worse.
Especially with the three boys being 13, 14, and either 15, or 16. Those ages are some of the toughest years for a kid to go through, even without anything especially negative happening.
 
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