Breaking news in the LISK case

[carbuff]

Another article -- I don't think this one has been posted yet. http://oysterbay.patch.com/articles/police-lattingtown-victim-was-murdered-buried

Pretty much the same information as the articles. It confirms that a grid search was done and cadaver dogs were used, though so far there's no connection.

 

[hawkshaw]

That's what you can do when you run a monopoly.

Ny post 1 20 12, phil mushnick article. Then figure it out what JD is really all about,

 

[PreciousDust]

WPIX film clip

http://pix11.com/2013/01/23/skeleto...e-out-serial-killer-connection/#axzz2IrZl83Vu

 

[zurcaram]

I ride my bike on Sheep Lane frequently. It is a narrow road and two cars going in opposite directions can barely pass each other. At night the road is very dark. I doubt anyone not familiar with the area would even know about that road, let alone drive on it. Whenever I'm riding my bike I always notice several vans passing me by. They are usually on their way to the beach club at the end of the road. A body could be have been concealed in the van and later dumped on the beach. Another thought -- the body could have been dumped in the sound and washed up during Sandy.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

I ride my bike on Sheep Lane frequently. It is a narrow road and two cars going in opposite directions can barely pass each other. At night the road is very dark. I doubt anyone not familiar with the area would even know about that road, let alone drive on it. Whenever I'm riding my bike I always notice several vans passing me by. They are usually on their way to the beach club at the end of the road. A body could be have been concealed in the van and later dumped on the beach. Another thought -- the body could have been dumped in the sound and washed up during Sandy.

Thanks for joining us, Zurcaram. What can you tell us about this beach club? Specifically:

~ Is it a private membership club?
~ What are it's hours of operations?
~ Is it adult only, or is a family friendly establishment?
~ Do they serve food and alcohol, have live bands, etc?

I'm not sure I understand exactly what a beach club is, so anything you could offer to help clarify would be most appreciated.

 

[LR1]

I originally thought the remains were found between the 2 houses west of the beach club but after viewing more video reports my best guess is that they were found past both houses on the south side of the trail/road where there is a gate and a place to turn around. I don't think they would have washed up from the sound imo.

 

[Sistah Sleuth]

I have always believed that the sk is full of money. I believe that he is a trust fund baby and killing prostitutes is a sport out of twisted boredom. I nelieve this for several reasons one being the victim who left her cell and purse at home and went with the sk. Also, one of they AC victims had been dead for a while before being dumped. In fact all four were dumped at the same time. This dude has money, space and a lot of ree time. When he is caught, this is going to be one helluva interesting case when its divulged who his uber rich family is and all of his sick twisted idiosyncrancies that went unchecked because he has money. His weird family never addressed his issues...they just threw money at him.

 

[PreciousDust]

I have always believed that the sk is full of money. I believe that he is a trust fund baby and killing prostitutes is a sport out of twisted boredom. I nelieve this for several reasons one being the victim who left her cell and purse at home and went with the sk. Also, one of they AC victims had been dead for a while before being dumped. In fact all four were dumped at the same time. This dude has money, space and a lot of ree time. When he is caught, this is going to be one helluva interesting case when its divulged who his uber rich family is and all of his sick twisted idiosyncrancies that went unchecked because he has money. His weird family never addressed his issues...they just threw money at him.

That is a pretty comprehensive description of JD's situation, and what a mindblower it would be if the story ever broke in that direction. This north shore discovery, if it turns out to be connected, helps those suspicions along.

 

[LINative13]

I have always believed that the sk is full of money. I believe that he is a trust fund baby and killing prostitutes is a sport out of twisted boredom. I nelieve this for several reasons one being the victim who left her cell and purse at home and went with the sk. Also, one of they AC victims had been dead for a while before being dumped. In fact all four were dumped at the same time. This dude has money, space and a lot of ree time. When he is caught, this is going to be one helluva interesting case when its divulged who his uber rich family is and all of his sick twisted idiosyncrancies that went unchecked because he has money. His weird family never addressed his issues...they just threw money at him.

Is this fact? the part about the victims being sumped at same time?

 

[carbuff]

I ride my bike on Sheep Lane frequently. It is a narrow road and two cars going in opposite directions can barely pass each other. At night the road is very dark. I doubt anyone not familiar with the area would even know about that road, let alone drive on it. Whenever I'm riding my bike I always notice several vans passing me by. They are usually on their way to the beach club at the end of the road. A body could be have been concealed in the van and later dumped on the beach. Another thought -- the body could have been dumped in the sound and washed up during Sandy.

LE in the articles specifically say the body was buried there. Here, for instance: http://oysterbay.patch.com/articles/police-lattingtown-victim-was-murdered-buried

"He [Azatta] said the body was buried there and had not washed up on the beach, although there had been washover between the bay and the Long Island Sound at the spot during Hurricane Sandy."

 

[Mountain_Kat]

So far, this is the only case I've hit upon that has gotten my attention. (DN lists her race as hispanic, but she's actually Eurasian, according to her mother).

http://doenetwork.org/cases/1547dftx.html

[ame="http://www.officialcoldcaseinvestigations.com/showthread.php?t=798"]Angela Abbrederis, 1996, Texas - Cold Case Investigations[/ame]

 

[hawkshaw]

My best guess is they weren't dumped at the same time. My best guess is if they were they would all have been dumped in the same place. Why take a chance carrying bodies in 4 different locations when you don't have to? The longer you are out there the greater chance of being caught. But who knows what evil lurks in the heart of men.

One thing I think I learned in these kinds of cases it logic usually doesn't apply. This types of people are illogical by defintion, otherwise they wouldn't be killing people like they have. The only thing 'logical' about these sort of people is they are illogical.

It only becomes 'logical' if you find them and they tell you the whys and wherefores.

 

[Sistah Sleuth]

Is this fact? the part about the victims being sumped at same time?

If my memory serves me correctly, I believe the AC4 were dumped at the same time and posed. He defintely had one for about 30 days before she was discarded because the decomposition. Did not match the length of time that she had been deceased. I could be wrong about being dumped at the same time and I have no problem with being corrected.

 

[Sistah Sleuth]

My best guess is they weren't dumped at the same time. My best guess is if they were they would all have been dumped in the same place. Why take a chance carrying bodies in 4 different locations when you don't have to? The longer you are out there the greater chance of being caught. But who knows what evil lurks in the heart of men.

One thing I think I learned in these kinds of cases it logic usually doesn't apply. This types of people are illogical by defintion, otherwise they wouldn't be killing people like they have. The only thing 'logical' about these sort of people is they are illogical.

It only becomes 'logical' if you find them and they tell you the whys and wherefores.

I'm talking about AC4

 

[Theforeigner]

I have always believed that the sk is full of money. I believe that he is a trust fund baby and killing prostitutes is a sport out of twisted boredom. I nelieve this for several reasons one being the victim who left her cell and purse at home and went with the sk. Also, one of they AC victims had been dead for a while before being dumped. In fact all four were dumped at the same time. This dude has money, space and a lot of ree time. When he is caught, this is going to be one helluva interesting case when its divulged who his uber rich family is and all of his sick twisted idiosyncrancies that went unchecked because he has money. His weird family never addressed his issues...they just threw money at him.

As far as I know, and I have reseached the Atlantic City murders pretty much in depht, there is NO information that back up what you are saying in your post (highlighted in red).

So could you please back up your claim?

 

[Sistah Sleuth]

As far as I know, and I have reseached the Atlantic City murders pretty much in depht, there is NO information that back up what you are saying in your post (highlighted in red).

So could you please back up your claim?

Im on the nook wwhich I cant do much on. However! With the large amount of info with these cases, I tend to deliberately memorize key information and store it in the harddrive of mmy mind. I can get things mixxed up from time to time but it was never reported that they had been dumped at the same time? I cant invest in research at this time. Maaybe after analying the area in aa past thread aand the road around it... it waas feasible to belive they were dumped at the same time. Maybe it was stated in an investigative report onn tv...but I wouldnt file info away in my mind if i didnt think the source was reputable enough.

But hey! IM HUman and getting older and perhaps my memory aint workin as well as it used to.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Well, this is interesting....a few of us have been looking into a UG poster who goes by the name Gavvy McCraveth (yes, like the baseball player, only he signs his name at the end of some posts as "Gavy", one "v"). Anyway, I just looked into the history of Piping Rock Country club, and turns out it was founded in 1911 by an attorney named Paul Craveth.

Strange coincidence or something more? I have no idea. But I'm throwing it out here anyway.

 

[Sistah Sleuth]

Now one thing im completely sure is that one of those ac four ladies had been dead for at least 30 days and then dumped. That should be real easy to confirm through articles.

 

[Theforeigner]

Now one thing im completely sure is that one of those ac four ladies had been dead for at least 30 days and then dumped. That should be real easy to confirm through articles.

This is getting anoying Sistah Sleuth!

You keep on posting claims as if they were FACTS, when they are NOT!!!

This above claim of yours has NOT been reportet at any point.

True that it was reported that "one of those ac four ladies had been dead for at least 30 days" BUT NOTHING about that she was dumped after beeing dead 30 days or somthing like that.

So PLEASE, in the future, add a quote with link to the news report where you have found you info, thank you .

 

[LINative13]

foreigner - Heyyyyy Easy dude.

SS - I didnt realize you were talking about AC4. I never really got into that case.