British couple, Andrew and Dawn Searle, found deceased in Les Pesquiès, south of Villefranche-de-Rouergue 6th February 2025

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  • #501
Yep.

The murder weapon.
Nowhere to be found 🧐
Do we know the weapon was never found? I recall the initial reports said it hadn't been identified, but that was right after murder. I don't think the police have said anything definitively since then.

If it's true that AS tried to make it look like a robbery gone wrong, then he may wiped it down and put it away, so the weapon wasn't obvious to investigators. But the police have had over two weeks to forensically examine the crime scene. It could certainly have been discovered by now.
 
  • #502
Do we know the weapon was never found? I recall the initial reports said it hadn't been identified, but that was right after murder. I don't think the police have said anything definitively since then.

If it's true that AS tried to make it look like a robbery gone wrong, then he may wiped it down and put it away, so the weapon wasn't obvious to investigators. But the police have had over two weeks to forensically examine the crime scene. It could certainly have been discovered by now.

Oh 🤔

But why to withhold this info?
 
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  • #503
Spitballing completely but AS may even not have planned to die; he might have staged a hanging and gag in mouth (appreciate this gag aspect is not verified) as part of a break in, and chose a low hanging point in order to protect himself, not appreciating just as hazardous.

I do agree with others though that murder suicide is a format organised gangs are capable of using.


hopefully communications and electronic devices may have helped elucidate both the real state of their relationship and any other dodgy activity with third parties.
 
  • #504
Why bother to stage it like a robbery? He was found hanged which is surely going to suggest murder-suicide.
Maybe it was a crime of passion and he tried to cover it up but eventually realized he'd be caught. . . .
 
  • #505
why did he put a gag in his own mouth?
 
  • #506
  • #507
why did he put a gag in his own mouth?
That's never been mentioned by the police so I'm not sure I believe that's true about the gag.
It doesn't seem to be mentioned in the more recent articles from what I've seen either.
 
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  • #509
why did he put a gag in his own mouth?
To definitely be dead at the end?

The first trigger may have been the wedding in 2023. MOO
 
  • #510
What kind of trigger ? Did I miss something ?
Thanks in advance.
 
  • #511
Why bother to stage it like a robbery? He was found hanged which is surely going to suggest murder-suicide.lo
I personally have thought from the start his suicide wasn't initially part of his thinking but the enormity of his actions and makng it look like robbery hit him and overwhelmed him
 
  • #512
I personally have thought from the start his suicide wasn't initially part of his thinking but the enormity of his actions and makng it look like robbery hit him and overwhelmed him

But...
what would be the motive of murder?

They were recently married after long time of living together.

Was he a toxic man?
Would a wife suffer such behaviour though?
She was not a naive young woman tied to him by mutual children.
(You know,
suffering in silence for the sake of keeping family together for the kids).

She was a career woman, free to travel and leave at any time.

Was she thinking of leaving him?

The neighbours didn't notice any changes in her behaviour before the tragedy.

Quite the contrary,
the wife was her typically smiley self
(while booking the chimney sweeping service for their house a few hours before the tragedy).

Would she even bother about the maintenance of the house while thinking of escaping?

🤔

JMO
 
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  • #513
I thought the scattered jewellery and gag could have been to make it look like someone else did it to them, not him. As he wouldn't want their kids to know it was him. JMO That was in response to why he'd have a gag if it was suicide.
 
  • #514
But
Would a person gripped by murderous rage think about others' feelings?

Contriving elaborate plans in an altered state of mind?

Why would he murder his wife?

He was an intelligent guy
(judging by his former profession),
surely this "staged robbery" was too naive to hoodwink anybody 🤨

No, I still don't buy this version.

JMO
 
  • #515
Would a person gripped by murderous rage think about others' feelings?
rsbm

if he staged it, i feel like it might be more about his ego / how he felt it would it would impact how he would be seen by others, then about anyone’s feelings :( otherwise, would he drag his wife, the person who he’s supposed to love, outside, partially undressed, after killing her?
 
  • #516
rsbm

if he staged it, i feel like it might be more about his ego / how he felt it would it would impact how he would be seen by others, then about anyone’s feelings :( otherwise, would he drag his wife, the person who he’s supposed to love, outside, partially undressed, after killing her?

Exactly this. With men like that it's all about them and what they have (or try to have) control over.
 
  • #517
rsbm

if he staged it, i feel like it might be more about his ego / how he felt it would it would impact how he would be seen by others, then about anyone’s feelings :( otherwise, would he drag his wife, the person who he’s supposed to love, outside, partially undressed, after killing her?

Egomaniacs are excessively self-centered, arrogant, and obsessed with their own importance.

Was he ever described as such a person?

Nope.
Quite the opposite.
Only positive reactions from those who knew him.
Friends of the couple absolutely reject the murder suicide theory.
Surely somebody would notice something worrying.
People in this village need psychological therapies to cope with this tragedy.

:(

JMO
 
  • #518
Egomaniacs are excessively self-centered, arrogant, and obsessed with their own importance.

Was he ever described as such a person?

Nope.
Quite the opposite.
Only positive reactions from those who knew him.
Friends of the couple absolutely reject the murder suicide theory.
Surely somebody would notice something worrying.
People in this village need psychological therapies to cope with this tragedy.

:(

JMO
you have a point! but i do think controlling people with big egos can unfortunately often be very charming too. until they’re not, usually with those closest to them.
 
  • #519
you have a point! but i do think controlling people with big egos can unfortunately often be very charming too. until they’re not, usually with those closest to them.

I only wish that ALL possible scenarios are THOROUGHLY checked by Prosecutor/Detectives.
To get to the bottom of this.
It would be terrible if the dead man was wrongly accused.

But I have faith in French LE.
They seem to work diligently.
They still claim to have "open mind".

JMO
 
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Speaking to the Daily Mail, the colleague - who asked to remain anonymous - said: "There is no way he could have been the target of a gangland hit.

"He was senior but not hierarchical. The bad guys just see the organisations declining them.”
"Criminals just see the organisation, not the individuals in the teams or running the teams. They'd have a full-time job following through on vendettas."
 

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