Brittany Murphy Dies

[Paladine]

If she was bipolar, that list isn't all that unusual. Often in an effort to find the right medication, they will prescribe several different conbinations. If there is a problem they may prescribe another set of meds or mix and match some. IOW, just because she had them doesn't mean she was taking them all. The anti inflam,biaxin and vicodin could have been for an injury or surgery? It is really hard to say based on the list of meds.
I am saying this without knowing anything about her FWIW.

True...like I said *ETA...not in the post you quoted, though* ...we'll have to wait to see at what levels...but given the reports from 'sources'...if they prove to be true, she had some kind of problem...something was making her behavior "erratic", as mentioned in that last link....and all the various media reports...she was mentally ill and it wasn't drug abuse...? I'm leaning to drug abuse but am open to the idea she had a mental illness, as well...the two are not exclusive, as southcitymom pointed out earlier...

 

[Paladine]

Placing someone in the shower to revive them-is that recommended?
Not something that would occur to me to do.

Lol...you can tell you haven't hung with addicts! Yes...the first place you put someone who you fear has overdosed is in the shower...in my experience...

 

[jjenny]

If she was bipolar, that list isn't all that unusual. Often in an effort to find the right medication, they will prescribe several different conbinations. If there is a problem they may prescribe another set of meds or mix and match some. IOW, just because she had them doesn't mean she was taking them all. The anti inflam,biaxin and vicodin could have been for an injury or surgery? It is really hard to say based on the list of meds.
I am saying this without knowing anything about her FWIW.

Well something resulted in her death. She was a young woman, and if her autopsy results really are normal, and there is no apparent cause of death, then I am presuming when tox screen comes back, we might find out what caused her death.

 

[jjenny]

Lol...you can tell you haven't hung with addicts! Yes...the first place you put someone who you fear has overdosed is in the shower...in my experience...

You guessed right. I've never hung with addicts. How would shower be expected to revive someone?

 

[Paladine]

You guessed right. I've never hung with addicts. How would shower be expected to revive someone?

It's the cold water...it can sometimes revive people, jolt them awake...but I do not recommend anything......I'm not a Dr... I haven't physically done it but I have seen it done...years ago...20 years ago...and they slap them, yell at them...try to revive them...by Gods Grace the 2 people I saw, lived...but I've lost a brother-in-law through overdose (oxycontins), a cousin (alcohol), a few dear friends, some who were clean over 10 yrs and died on relapse...addiction is a vicious disease.

 

[JBean]

True...like I said *ETA...not in the post you quoted, though* ...we'll have to wait to see at what levels...but given the reports from 'sources'...if they prove to be true, she had some kind of problem...something was making her behavior "erratic", as mentioned in that last link....and all the various media reports...she was mentally ill and it wasn't drug abuse...? I'm leaning to drug abuse but am open to the idea she had a mental illness, as well...the two are not exclusive, as southcitymom pointed out earlier...

Well something resulted in her death. She was a young woman, and if her autopsy results really are normal, and there is no apparent cause of death, then I am presuming when tox screen comes back, we might find out what caused her death.

Oh I totally agree. I was just noticing that that collection of drugs was interesting and not necessarily ourtageous. of course that is all relative.

Those with psychological disorders typically self medicate.

 

[AutomaticAuttie]

It is my understanding that part a of the statute covers community property and section c covers assets that were held before the marriage. According to the statute if the will is written before the marriage and never updated he is entitled to a portion of both with a cap on the amount of the premarriage assets he can be awarded.

Divorce and probate rules are different.

The house is not "community property"

"Separate property" is defined in Section 770 of the Family Code:

"770. (a) Separate property of a married person includes all of the
following:
(1) All property owned by the person before marriage.
(2) All property acquired by the person after marriage by gift,
bequest, devise, or descent.
(3) The rents, issues, and profits of the property described in this section.
(b) A married person may, without the consent of the person's
spouse, convey the person's separate property."
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=fam&group=00001-01000&file=770-772


As such, property that the husband owned before his current marriage
would be "separate" under Sec. 770. However, be aware that it's
possible for separate property to be "transmuted" into community
property (e.g., if the husband transferred the property back to
himself and his wife as community property). See Sec. 850 et seq.:
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=fam&group=00001-01000&file=850-853

Also, there can be issues of commingling of community and separate
property. Things could get complicated if the husband had a mortgage
on his separate property and he was making mortgage payments from
community property funds (i.e., his or his wife's wages). This
article by a California lawyer mentions this issue:

"REAL PROPERTY
A house or other real property owned before marriage remains the
owner's separate property after marriage, even though the parties live
in it. However, it is difficult to remove a spouse or even a live-in
companion from a residence, even though that person has no ownership
interest.
If a prior existing mortgage debt is paid from community property,
the community will develop a small but growing fractional interest in
the property. The principal paydown is the numerator: the total equity
in the property is the denominator. This fraction is multiplied by the
total value of the property. The end result is the community interest
in the property.
The problem of lender's intent arises when separate property is
refinanced during marriage. If the lender relies for repayment on the
borrower's income stream or on his general credit, the proceeds of the
loan will be community property. If the loan is a pure purchase money
loan, the property will remain separate. Payments on a loan should be
made from separate property is the separate property character of the
property is to be maintained."
source:
Keeping Separate Property Separate Without a Prenuptial Agreement
by Stuart B. Walzer
http://www.california-divorce.com/premarital/separate.html

 

[JBean]

The house is not "community property"

"Separate property" is defined in Section 770 of the Family Code:

"770. (a) Separate property of a married person includes all of the
following:
(1) All property owned by the person before marriage.
(2) All property acquired by the person after marriage by gift,
bequest, devise, or descent.
(3) The rents, issues, and profits of the property described in this section.
(b) A married person may, without the consent of the person's
spouse, convey the person's separate property."
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=fam&group=00001-01000&file=770-772


As such, property that the husband owned before his current marriage
would be "separate" under Sec. 770. However, be aware that it's
possible for separate property to be "transmuted" into community
property (e.g., if the husband transferred the property back to
himself and his wife as community property). See Sec. 850 et seq.:
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=fam&group=00001-01000&file=850-853

Also, there can be issues of commingling of community and separate
property. Things could get complicated if the husband had a mortgage
on his separate property and he was making mortgage payments from
community property funds (i.e., his or his wife's wages). This
article by a California lawyer mentions this issue:

"REAL PROPERTY
A house or other real property owned before marriage remains the
owner's separate property after marriage, even though the parties live
in it. However, it is difficult to remove a spouse or even a live-in
companion from a residence, even though that person has no ownership
interest.
If a prior existing mortgage debt is paid from community property,
the community will develop a small but growing fractional interest in
the property. The principal paydown is the numerator: the total equity
in the property is the denominator. This fraction is multiplied by the
total value of the property. The end result is the community interest
in the property.
The problem of lender's intent arises when separate property is
refinanced during marriage. If the lender relies for repayment on the
borrower's income stream or on his general credit, the proceeds of the
loan will be community property. If the loan is a pure purchase money
loan, the property will remain separate. Payments on a loan should be
made from separate property is the separate property character of the
property is to be maintained."
source:
Keeping Separate Property Separate Without a Prenuptial Agreement
by Stuart B. Walzer
http://www.california-divorce.com/premarital/separate.html

Impatientredhead said she was referring to section C (not section a)of the statute. which addresses assets purchased prior to marriage.

 

[Paladine]

This is the earliest report about her dwindling size that I could find...Dec/2002

Thursday, December 5th 2002, 1:00AM

"ANOTHER INCREDIBLE SHRINKING STARLET"

Why is it that after young actresses hit it big, so many become very small? Brittany Murphy is the latest to dwindle in size, following in the (tiny) footsteps of Lara Flynn Boyle, Portia de Rossi, Jennifer Aniston and other power-dieters. The "8 Mile" love interest has gone from having a healthy figure to looking like she needs a square meal. Murphy, 25, plays an aspiring model in the Eminem movie and probably needed to be skinny. But the film wrapped in January, and she's still awfully bony. Her rep could not be reached by press time.

http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/lifestyle/2002/12/05/2002-12-05__in_the_know.html

 

[Paladine]

From the LA Times...

One of the first things Brittany Murphy did when she showed up on the Oregon set of her indie thriller "Something Wicked" last June was acknowledge -- and apologize for -- her weight.

"I met her on the first day she arrived [on set] in Eugene with her husband," said Scott Chambers, a principal at Chambers Productions and an executive producer on the picture. "She looked ill, as much as 10 pounds underweight, and she's a small person to begin with. She easily could have made an excuse not to come to work, but she didn't. She said, 'I've got to get better, but I want to do this part.' "

Shawn Levy, who directed Murphy in the 2003 hit "Just Married," said that, back then, "so much about her fragility reminded me of a bird -- a fragile, pretty bird. She was really raw emotionally in life and in work."

AND...

Sources close to the investigation did say that Murphy showed signs of severe internal bleeding.

What causes internal bleeding? Liver..stomach...ideas...? And how does that corolate with reports of a 'normal' autopsy?
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-brittany-murphy22-2009dec22,0,6494011.story

 

[Paladine]

A friend of the star echoed persistent rumors that Monjack - who reportedly opposed the autopsy - was a poor match for the saucer-eyed starlet.

"When Brittany married Simon, she cut off communication with a number of people who cherished her," the pal told The News. "She lived in denial about him."

"I don't know why anyone would think that," Monjack shot back in the Access Hollywood interview posted online. "She found love. We found love."

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2...or_her_hubby__others_found.html#ixzz0aUmDeyT6

 

[lucky181]

"A check of the nightstands revealed large amounts of prescription medication in the decedent's name. Also noted were numerous empty prescription medication bottles in the decedent's husband's name, the decedent's mother's name and unidentified third party names."

http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/22/britt...ack-sharon-rescue-effort-drugs-investigation/

It seems odd to have her mother's name on prescriptions. This reminds me of Anna Nicole and prescriptions in other people's names. I hope that her mother wasn't filling out prescriptions and giving them to Brittany. And third party names sounds like more than one other person plus the husband. Of course he could be using them also but why so many different names?

 

[OneLostGrl]

My doctor had me on propranolol...I had heart palpitations brought on by anxiety...brought on by too much synthroid...or that's what I was told, anyways...lol...now, I take nothing and I'm fine.

2 pain relievers, 2 anxiety drugs...those are the most concerning. People usually take 1 of each type...in my experience...doubling up might be sign of a problem, imo. Now, how much of each...

Also 2 seizure meds.. The Topamax and Tegretol (Carbamazepine) are both used as mood stabilizers in the treatment of Bipolar disorder. It is not uncommon for a person to be treated with 2 different mood stabilizers. Neither medication gets ya "high".. and as an aside, Topamax is well known for it's side effect of weight loss. It isn't approved as a weight loss drug but many pdocs prescribe it for just that... mine did and it worked.Now, of course I have no idea if this medication was new to her or if it had anything to do with her weight loss but I have no problem believing it could have.

 

[southcitymom]

Placing someone in the shower to revive them-is that recommended?
Not something that would occur to me to do.

UBM:

I definitely would. I think it's an appropriate response.

 

[southcitymom]

You guessed right. I've never hung with addicts. How would shower be expected to revive someone?

Cold water will often wake up someone who is passed out.....addicts are often in that situation. If someone is overdosed and in and our of consciousness, a cold shower can get them lucid again - that's your goal - to keep them awake long enough for the drugs to wear off and not kill them. Also, a shower keeps them standing/sitting....where they are less likely to choke to death on their vomit...also, a good place to throw up because you can clean it up more easily.

 

[southcitymom]

http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/22/britt...ack-sharon-rescue-effort-drugs-investigation/

It seems odd to have her mother's name on prescriptions. This reminds me of Anna Nicole and prescriptions in other people's names. I hope that her mother wasn't filling out prescriptions and giving them to Brittany. And third party names sounds like more than one other person plus the husband. Of course he could be using them also but why so many different names?

This fact (multiple scripts in hers, husband's, Mom's and "other's" names) concerns me greatly. I agree that's indicative of drug-shopping behavior.

 

[southcitymom]

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2...or_her_hubby__others_found.html#ixzz0aUmDeyT6

From that link:

"When Brittany married Simon, she cut off communication with a number of people who cherished her," the pal told The News. "She lived in denial about him."


Pulling away from friends and family (often with one other person, known in recovery parlance as a hostage) is a hallmark of a deepening spiral into addiction.

 

[jjenny]

From the LA Times...





AND...

[/B]What causes internal bleeding? Liver..stomach...ideas...? And how does that corolate with reports of a 'normal' autopsy?
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-brittany-murphy22-2009dec22,0,6494011.story

I don't know how that would go with "normal autopsy."
If any of her organs severely bled, they presumably would know what killed her and wouldn't have to wait for tox screen to come back.

 

[Openmind]

From that link:

"When Brittany married Simon, she cut off communication with a number of people who cherished her," the pal told The News. "She lived in denial about him."


Pulling away from friends and family (often with one other person, known in recovery parlance as a hostage) is a hallmark of a deepening spiral into addiction.

This is such a tragedy. Was the she bread and butter for this family? He was in the business but did he make a real living?

 

[IWannaKnow]

I haven't kept up with this thread, but I just read this article and I think it has some good information and pictures. Hope someone hasn't already posted this:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/21/brittany-murphys-weight-e_n_399891.html

Brittany Murphy's Weight: Eating Disorder Denials Despite Changing Shape (PHOTOS)

"Murphy's big break came in 1995 when she starred in 'Clueless' as Tai and looked, refreshingly, like someone who didn't fit the Hollywood mold into which she'd later shove herself. As her career took off her weight plummeted while her chest was bigger than ever, she dyed her hair blonde, capped her teeth and appeared to have had plastic surgery although she repeatedly denied having been under the knife. As she brushed off persistent rumors that her ever-shrinking form was the result of an eating disorder."