GUILTY Brock Turner, college swimmer, CONVICTED of rape - sentenced to only 6 months in jail

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flutterby said:
Sorry, another terminology question. What's the difference between jail and prison in the US? I think they are the same thing in the UK?
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“The major difference between whether a convict stays in jail or prison is the length of the sentence.

A jail is a temporary holding facility. It's used to hold people who have been recently arrested or people who are charged with a crime and unable to pay bond or bail. It can also house people who are given short sentences, generally one year or less.

By contrast a prison is designed for long-term confinement. The majority of convicted criminals serve their sentences in a prison.

Another important difference is who runs the facility. Jails are generally run by a county sheriff's department, unlike prisons which are run by state or federal governments.

People who break federal laws go to federal prisons, and people who break state laws go to state prisons. That part at least is intuitive.”

- See more at: http://blogs.findlaw.com/blotter/20...een-jail-and-prison.html#sthash.dELAl8B3.dpuf
 
flutterby said:
Sorry, another terminology question. What's the difference between jail and prison in the US? I think they are the same thing in the UK?
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Jails are commonly county lock-ups for persons awaiting trial in that same county. Sometimes a convicted offender may stay & do the sentenced time in the county jail, if it is a short (LT 2 years), but this is not very common. A great majority of convicted persons become the responsibility of the State and are housed in a State Prison.Usually, as soon as the defendant is convicted and sentenced, the judge assigns the convict to the State.

Prisons are maintained at the state level and that is where most convicts are housed to fulfill their sentences. Some states properly name them, for example, So-and-So Correctional Institution, or This & That State Prison.

Penitentiaries are essentially a synonym for prison, but some folks refer to federal lock-ups as penitentiaries. You will see the federal proper names as "United States Penitentiary" and "Federal Correctional Institution." There is a difference in the type of prisoners held at each.

The main thing about this is the difference between "Jail" (County lock-up) and "Prison" (State lockup).

Yeah, we've come a long way from the King's English, haven't we over here across the pond?
 
flutterby said:
Sorry, another terminology question. What's the difference between jail and prison in the US? I think they are the same thing in the UK?
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To add a little color to the above responses, prisons are where the hard core offenders are and they are often violent, dangerous places. Jails generally house nonviolent offenders and are nowhere near as harsh as prisons.

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kimi_SFC said:
Just when you think it can't get any worse!


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I am on my smartphone and my smart phone does not allow me to see that site... can somebody give a synopsis please?

:tyou:
 
atthelake said:
I am on my smartphone and my smart phone does not allow me to see that site... can somebody give a synopsis please?

:tyou:
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He apparently took a picture of the victim during the assault and sent it to friends....
 
Rhino-Esq said:
He apparently took a picture of the victim during the assault and sent it to friends....
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:tyou:

:thud:

The prosecutor couldn't bring it into trial because it would have been too prejudicial? WT%!

Or was this found after the trial? Or it was just released through Freedom of Information Act? ( doubtful... too soon for that).

In other words why is this the first time we are hearing about it?

I hate it when I can't access certain websites to read something people are talking about..... grrrrrr
 
atthelake said:
:tyou:

:thud:

The prosecutor couldn't bring it into trial because it would have been too prejudicial? WT%!

Or was this found after the trial? Or it was just released through Freedom of Information Act? ( doubtful... too soon for that).

In other words why is this the first time we are hearing about it?

I hate it when I can't access certain websites to read something people are talking about..... grrrrrr
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It was all in the police report, so known before. The problem was the picture was sent using an app called GroupMe and deleted, but while police were interrogating Turner, he got a message on his phone from that app that said "Whos t** is that?"
 
Rhino-Esq said:
He apparently took a picture of the victim during the assault and sent it to friends....
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Separate charge. Separate trial. Separate punishment. The judiciary (which will not be the same judge) may have a second chance at this jackass. Cal. Pen. Code, § 647, but it only would be a year maximum as it's a misdemeanor.
 
jails are actually more unpredictable than prisons. the ppl coming in off the street can be on drugs, become suicidal and in general you never know what youre going to get.

although the worse offenders end up in prison, the prison inmates are usually more structured and have a "routine".

Wyle_E_Coyote said:
To add a little color to the above responses, prisons are where the hard core offenders are and they are often violent, dangerous places. Jails generally house nonviolent offenders and are nowhere near as harsh as prisons.

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Thanks for the info re jail vs prison. How ridiculous that he's only going to jail!
 
angelainwi said:
Separate charge. Separate trial. Separate punishment. The judiciary (which will not be the same judge) may have a second chance at this jackass. Cal. Pen. Code, § 647, but it only would be a year maximum as it's a misdemeanor.
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Since there were no photos found, there is no evidence. So no trial or punishment.
 
atthelake said:
:tyou:

:thud:

The prosecutor couldn't bring it into trial because it would have been too prejudicial? WT%!

Or was this found after the trial? Or it was just released through Freedom of Information Act? ( doubtful... too soon for that).

In other words why is this the first time we are hearing about it?

I hate it when I can't access certain websites to read something people are talking about..... grrrrrr
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Because police didn't find any actual photos. So he isn't going on trial for that.
 
perfectingpink said:
So, she blames the TRIAL for destroying her family.

Brock Turner's Mother Foresaw Public Outcry Against Ex-Stanford Swimmer in Letter to Judge

http://abcnews.go.com/US/brock-turn...lic-outcry-stanford-swimmer/story?id=39764068
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I only read about this case today. I am so incensed and sickened that I feel the need to comment before reading the entire thread. I am sorry if any of the following has already been posted

Thank you, Representative Ted Poe, who is calling for the removal of Judge Persky:

http://www.chron.com/neighborhood/k...ongressman-Ted-Poe-demands-ouster-7973815.php

as are many others:

“The Texas congressman is among a growing number calling for Persky's ouster. A petition signed by close to 1 million people demands the California judge’s expulsion. Doing so could be a challenge, although opponents are hoping to mount a rare, successful recall effort.”

The woman was unconscious, FGS. Only a monster would do such a thing. One of the two men who came to her rescue told Brock to turn her on her side so she could breathe. Instead he ran away. Shouldn’t the charges include some type of attempted manslaughter? I do not have much knowledge of criminal law, but if a victim could die as the result of an assault, it should be more than rape.

IMO, any man who has a desire to rape women is already mentally ill and dangerous. I can only conclude that the father’s and Judge Persky’s acceptance of the desire is an indication that they share the same, which they have somehow managed to suppress. Or maybe they have a wife/victim at home.
 
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