Broken/open window discovery-a lie?

[Agatha_C]

Weren't there two doors? One was the Butlers pantry door, the other the dining room door?

Why would John Fernie try to enter through the Butlers Pantry door when it was well known to family and friends that they enter through the hallway door.

Me doth think JF knows far more than is believed. Makes me wonder just who was tested for DNA and what did JF gain from lying?

 

[cynic]

Again, I owe you a huge thank you.

You're welcome, anytime.

Reading that thread not only gave me the answer, it gave me more questions (LOL).. Since it late and I have pancakes to make early in the morning I'll only ask one. Okay, maybe two (LOL)
Why was JF, lying.. I know that no one but he can answer that. Its a question I have nonetheless...

In terms of why JF lied, I go back and forth between two theories. He could be one of those people that are so desperate to be viewed as an important player in a case that they will make things up.
Or, he could have been trying to corroborate JR’s statement that he read the ransom note when it was spread out on the floor. (Why a friend’s “loyalty” would extend to that level, I don’t know.)
What is clear is that the BPD should not have allowed that to go unchallenged.
One question I would have asked JF would be: why, if you thought that John Ramsey may be having a heart attack, did you stop and fixate on a piece of paper (or papers, depending on which lie you believe) lying on the floor, facing the other direction, long enough to determine JonBenet had been kidnapped rather than immediately run to another door after finding the first one locked. Shouldn’t you have been more concerned that John Ramsey may have been lying on the floor having a heart attack??? You seem to have been more concerned about the paper lying on the floor.
“As Fernie drove over, he thought that John must have had a heart attack, since Patsy hadn’t told his wife what had happened.”

Typical of liars, the story changes:

Before he finished reading the ransom note, he told Patsy to call the police. Immediately afterward, Patsy called the Whites and Fernies and told them something terrible had happened. “Barbara, get over here as fast as you can,” she said to her friend. Seven minutes after Patsy’s call to 911, Officer French was at their front door.
John Fernie told the police that he was the first of the Ramseys’ friends to arrive. His wife, Barbara, came later in her car. As Fernie drove over, he thought that John must have had a heart attack, since Patsy hadn’t told his wife what had happened.
Fernie parked his car in the alley behind the Ramseys’ house and ran to the patio door on the south side, which he always used. It was locked. When he looked through the glass-paneled door, the lights were on and he could see some papers lying on the wooden floor. They were not facing him, but from where he stood, he could read the first few lines of one page. That was all he needed. He understood immediately that JonBenét had been kidnapped. Once inside the house, he read the entire ransom note. At first he thought it was bizarre, then later he saw it as perverse.
A few minutes later, John Ramsey tried to phone his pilot, Mike Archuleta, to tell him what had happened and learned that the pilot was already on his way to the airport for the Ramseys’ scheduled flight to Michigan. When Archuleta returned Ramsey’s call, Patsy answered. Archuleta told the police that Patsy had been hysterical, barely coherent. She was now being consoled by her friends when a second officer, Karl Veitch, arrived. The police then paged Mary Lou Jedamus, a victim advocate.
Perfect Murder, Perfect Town, Lawrence Schiller, page 78

John Fernie: "I drove my car into the -- up the alley and parked in the back of your house, and went around to the patio door, which was a glass door leading into the kitchen and back of the house, and didn't see anybody, but saw a piece of paper laying on the floor. Looked at that. It was facing the other direction. Read it. And after the first few lines realized something very strange was happening. And so I ran around to the front of the house and knocked on the door and was let in."
John Fernie: "I didn't pick it up. It was inside the door and I was outside. The door was locked. I read it through the door."
John Fernie: "Fleet and Priscilla White were there when I arrived. And my wife came shortly thereafter. And our -- Overstock, our priest, came afterwards as well."
John Fernie: "My recollection is that later in the day, when we were waiting for phone calls from the supposed kidnappers, we were sitting in the back room with a detective and trying to figure out what the note meant. And there was a copy of the note. I don't know if it was the note, or a copy of the note, actually."
Deposition of John Fernie, Colorado v Miller, June 13, 2001

 

[Peliman]

Hello, I defer to those with more knowledge in this case but I have a question. Since I've read in this thread somewhere glass was found on top of the suitcase and the suitcase had been moved. Ok a couple questions.

If there were shards of glass found on the suitcase, how did they get there if the window had been broken previously by JR?

Dagnabit, work calls.

 

[DeeDee249]

Hello, I defer to those with more knowledge in this case but I have a question. Since I've read in this thread somewhere glass was found on top of the suitcase and the suitcase had been moved. Ok a couple questions.

If there were shards of glass found on the suitcase, how did they get there if the window had been broken previously by JR?

Dagnabit, work calls.

We don't know how long the suitcase had been there. But we also know that FW claimed to have picked up a shard of glass and placed it atop the suitcase, which he also admitted moving. JR admitted breaking the glass. We frankly don't know the exact truth. The suitcase handle should have been tested for prints or DNA. As far as we know, it wasn't.