Brooke Bennett, 12 yrs. old Randolph, VT #10

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  • #321
Question, in one of the earlier police press conferences, the cops said that the so called 'sex ring' was inclusive of the 2 posperps, Brooke, juvy 1 and juvy 2 correct?:waitasec:

Not Juvenile 2, I don't think. So far, he's just guilty of sex with his teenage girlfriend, not being part of the ring, unless I missed something.
 
  • #322
Obits can be wrong. Every spelling I have seen includes the h at the end of her name...including her own myspace page. Here is an article which mentions her:

"I hope Brooke knows I'm with her and I will always be with her," she said, standing next to Brooke's older sister Savannah Andress.

http://www.timesargus.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080703/NEWS/310275644

ETA: I stand corrected, she doesn't put an h on the end of it on her myspace. Still..why would she put that she is only 15 yo?

could be a friend named Savanna. I have friends that have same name as my sister :)
 
  • #323
Thank you for posting that I thought of her when I was reading the original post, but had to get through four or five more pages before I answered the question. Yes, Westerfield did something to a young girl, he touched her and put something in her mouth.

Another thing I was thinking while reading all the post about the note that the President picked her (wow what a honor for such a young girl). Since most nine year olds do not know that much about sex could she have thought she was really special, she better do a good job after all, you do not want to let the President down. And, could he have planted the note when mom was away so when AR found the note she showed him and by the time mom came home the note was old news. Since, it is suppose to be a secret and again the President picked her. Don't want to get in trouble with the President.

Geez, as I type my own words I cannot believe someone could be so cruel.
I agree that is the most likely scenario of what took place with the letter. Jacques must have had a plan for her not to discuss the letter with her mother and only himself. Then he could tell her all the lies about the group and why she can't tell....like...they will kill your mother and siblings if you dare tell. No telling how far he carried it.
 
  • #324
Sorry, Philamena.

Yes, LE did say it was only them. However, they were only talking about "Breckenridge" being tied to a larger
SNIP

I am so angry...I would probably condone you taking care of him! :furious:

SeriouslySearching,
Thanks so much for the reply.
That makes perfect sense that LE was talking about the "Brekenridge" ring.
 
  • #325
could be a friend named Savanna. I have friends that have same name as my sister :)
Yes, I never thought it was the sister's. Just a coincidence in the names hence my comment about being 15.
 
  • #326
Not Juvenile 2, I don't think. So far, he's just guilty of sex with his teenage girlfriend, not being part of the ring, unless I missed something.

CarpeDiem, :seeya:
Thanks for setting me straight. I don't want to post the wrong information. :blushing:
 
  • #327
Boy, it is a good thing I don't frequent sites that tout false rape claims concerning children. My blood pressure couldn't take it. :furious:

What Madea said about juries thinking it's scorned women putting up kids to lie is exactly what happened with the killer of Samantha Runnion. Remember?
Samantha's murderer Alejandro Avila was acquitted of molesting his ex girlfriend's nine year old daughter and her young friend.
The jury didn't believe either girl on the stand, they said later they thought the mom put them up to telling that story to get back at her ex, Alejandro Avila.
Well..we know what he did to Samantha just three years later.


Erin Runnion said, "I blame every juror who let him go, every juror who sat on that trial and believed this man over those little girls, I will never understand. And that is why he was out. And that is why his sickness was allowed to do this."
 
  • #328
We begin here to veer in to a debate that I know for a fact neither of us will win, and which could conceivably continue on forever and take us further and further off-topic. I could probably produce reams of studies supporting my view and I know that you could do easily the same for yours and neither of us could accomplish anything aside from frustrating each other. I'd prefer not to do that and therefore respectfully bow out of this particular debate. :)
Get out while you can. I did! Good choice. :thumb:
 
  • #329
Just a quick question, does anyone know what church Gagnon attended when he came here? It was posted somewhere here I cannot find it.

Love and Respect,
dark_shadows
 
  • #330
James Bennett said Gagnon attended a church service with him and other family members on Sunday at Green Mountain Gospel Chapel in Randolph
 
  • #331
Not Juvenile 2, I don't think. So far, he's just guilty of sex with his teenage girlfriend, not being part of the ring, unless I missed something.
Technically, Juv 2 male would be considered part of the ring as photos were taken of them and distributed at least to Gagnon. Now, it doesn't mean that Juv 2 male knew the photos were taken or sent to Gagnon or that he was openly being discussed by AR with these fake men...but it does still mean he was a victim of MJ's.
 
  • #332
I agree. AR related a lot to her abuser, even in the face of living a relatively normal life outside of the house. She was not held captive, and she wasn't kept from seeing what constitutes normal behavior. AR was exposed to friends, school, school activities. However, as some point she started to become as twisted as MJ and "enjoy" this secret special "thing" they had going on and didn't rebel in any way against him.
I understand she was conditioned to be that way, and probably even threatened, but she crossed the line and became the aggressor.
I hope they put her somewhere for several months to get help, because she needs it...that's an understatement.
Taken from the Times Argus Timeline of Events

June 29:

2:20 p.m.: After being confronted with the e-mails retrieved from Jacques' computer, the juvenile female admits to helping Jacques get Bennett back to his house on June 25 after dropping her off at Cumberland Farms. She also tells police about the so-called Breckenridge program, her introduction to the program when she was 9 years old and that Jacques is her "trainer."


This girl sat with this knowledge for 4 days while the whole "world" held their collective breaths. She has lied to LE in the past and that is the only reason why I question what she has told them now. I do believe she is a victim...she is a child who has been party to heinous acts. But, there is evil there that can't be explained away. I'd also like to know exactly when her mother caught her in the towel? Was this something that recently happened...or was this when she was much younger?
 
  • #333
Technically, Juv 2 male would be considered part of the ring as photos were taken of them and distributed at least to Gagnon. Now, it doesn't mean that Juv 2 male knew the photos were taken or sent to Gagnon or that he was openly being discussed by AR with these fake men...but it does still mean he was a victim of MJ's.


Juvenile 2 is definitley a victim of MJ's, not only the pictures, but having evidence collected to frame him for murder.
 
  • #334
With all of my heart, I want to thank the 3 of you for your post.:blowkiss::blowkiss::blowkiss:

March 4, 1999, my cousin's daughter succumed to shaken baby syndrome, she lived and suffered in a hospital bed awaiting death.
Alexis's mother had been in and out of jail and put men, money and drugs above her own dear Angel. Even after all the years that have passed, I am having a hard time typing out this post.
I posted about that here on WS and it is very heartbreaking.
Not only was Alexis let down by her mother, she was let down by human services.

So much Love and Respect,
dark_shadows
Oh, DS...I am so sorry for your loss...that poor baby...
 
  • #335
Juvenile 2 is definitley a victim of MJ's, not only the pictures, but having evidence collected to frame him for murder.

Oh yes, to both you and SS. I just meant he isn't a perp.
 
  • #336
Juvenile 2 is definitley a victim of MJ's, not only the pictures, but having evidence collected to frame him for murder.


I'm unclear what the heck Jacques was thinking with the semen from the boyfriend.

Was framing the boyfriend the backup plan in case Brooke was not 'compliant'? AR's boyfriend's semen on Brooke's clothes doesn't track to Brooke running away with some guy she met on the Internet.....

Did he really think that the BF's DNA would never be tested and it would simply be assumed to be the DNA of the internet perp?
 
  • #337
I got lost awhile back reading earlier posts...and I know it was brought up in the wee hours of the morning...so exactly when did Gagnon arrive back in Vermont?
 
  • #338
It's said that these predators have an almost sixth sense in picking the most vulnerable children. My guess is that AR's IQ is not that high, and given that her mother let a known violent rapist into her life, its not a stretch to believe she has been somewhat neglected her entire life. It also appears she was born into a highly dysfunctional family to begin with..the odds of two sisters both marrying men who go on to have sex with teenagers in the family must be astronomical w/out there having been some kind of abuse of the two women. AR was the perfect victim.

I know it sounds cruel, because she was abused and raped by this monster since a little kid, but I have to agree.
I don't even want to get into the ball of chaos and dysfunction that was my household growing up, but I know I would have been cynical of some note like that under my pillow, and I definitely would have squealed to another adult in a minute. I had street smarts even at nine years old, though.
I think AR was the perfect victim, and MK knew it.
Maybe MJ feed her compliments on her being beautiful, smart, sexy..etc.
If a child doesn't have a lot of self worth, something like that can hook them.
 
  • #339
Nobody is going to like this answer, but we should stop glamorizing and airbrushing motherhood into a fairytale. Having children is NOT easy, it is not all birthday parties and scrapbooking. It is hard, very hard. It entails massive sacrifices that the weak willed, selfish, damaged are simply not able to manage. These women who let their children be abused should never have had them in the fist place, they are not emotionally capable of parenting.

Hi, guys-I have stayed out of this branch of the discussion as long as I was able simply because I was trying to catch up on the case itself.

I think that there is a very broad brush being used to paint here, and it is causing some discomfort in me. Making the leap between viewing 🤬🤬🤬🤬, any 🤬🤬🤬🤬 that reflects a disproportionate balance of power, and enacting that activity yourself is too much of a jump for me. There are an awful lot of passive people sitting "out there in the dark" (to quote my favorite movie) who are perhaps content with the viewing-they are still tethered to reality by knowing that society has limits and rape/torture/humiliation are not socially acceptable means of getting gratification.

And yes, there are those who are wired to need more than an image. At some point they cut the tether and jump in.

Gagnon liked kiddie 🤬🤬🤬🤬 and had access to a child for 6 years ie Brooke-what are the chances he acted out a fantasy or two on her? Don't know, but something to think about or investigate for sure.

MJ was sexualized at an early age, apparently, by his father using his baby sister-he is clearly stuck there and for me the only question is how many more relatives and co workers are out there that he might have fixated on in between his sister's victimization and his assault on the 18 year old woman?

Then there is Denise, who I believe was one of those women who was going to turn a blind eye no matter what she was hit over the head with...clearly her need for MJ was greater than any instinct she might have felt for her child...IMO.

Look at all of the devastation in the path of this man, MJ-Brooke, AR, Juvenile 2, his sister, his other known rape victim...it boggles my mind but he had the perfect environment and people around him to ensure that he could continue this behavior without challenge...no wonder he took the next step himself into murder. Again IMO.
 
  • #340
Taken from the Times Argus Timeline of Events

June 29:

2:20 p.m.: After being confronted with the e-mails retrieved from Jacques' computer, the juvenile female admits to helping Jacques get Bennett back to his house on June 25 after dropping her off at Cumberland Farms. She also tells police about the so-called Breckenridge program, her introduction to the program when she was 9 years old and that Jacques is her "trainer."


This girl sat with this knowledge for 4 days while the whole "world" held their collective breaths. She has lied to LE in the past and that is the only reason why I question what she has told them now. I do believe she is a victim...she is a child who has been party to heinous acts. But, there is evil there that can't be explained away. I'd also like to know exactly when her mother caught her in the towel? Was this something that recently happened...or was this when she was much younger?

I think her mother's revelations about the sex toys, dry shower and towel took AR by surprise....and shook the rest of the story out of her.
 
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