Bruce Jenner Becoming a Woman and more...#2

[Kimberlyd125]

http://espn.go.com/olympics/trackan...ors-decline-charge-caitlyn-jenner-fatal-crash

Prosecutors decline to charge Caitlyn Jenner in fatal crash

 

[Kimberlyd125]

A prosecutor wrote in a one-page sheet declining to file charges that Jenner was traveling slightly below the posted speed limit and began braking less than two seconds before the crash. To prove misdemeanor vehicular manslaughter, prosecutors would have had to show Jenner was negligent and had violated a basic speed law.

Based on the facts, the office determined they "cannot prove beyond a reasonable doubt that suspect's conduct was unreasonable."

http://apmobile.worldnow.com/story/...cline-to-charge-caitlyn-jenner-in-fatal-crash

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Prosecutors could have filed a misdemeanor manslaughter charge, but sources familiar with the investigation said there was a number of mitigating factors, including the fact that Jenner wasn't driving recklessly or at excessive speed, didn't flee the scene, traveled with the flow of traffic and wasn't on a cellphone at the time.



The Los Angeles County district attorney's office noted that Jenner was traveling slightly below the posted speed limit and "minimally slower than [the] victim." To charge Jenner with a crime would require "ordinary negligence," and prosecutors said they "could not prove beyond a reasonable doubt that suspect's conduct was unreasonable."

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...e-charged-fatal-february-car-accident-n436426

 

[tangelo]

he'll still lose the civil suit
he wasnt traveling "minimally slower than [the] victim" when he hit & killed her

 

[Kimberlyd125]

People and companies who have a large amount of money normally do lose civil suits or are forced to settle just to get on with their lives. It's the screwed up world we live in.

IMO if he wasn't even negligent enough to be charged, he should not have to face a civil suit.

That's one of my biggest pet peeves. The fact that this country is so sue happy, you can be totally innocent of criminal wrong doing and still have to give someone a monetary prize.

It baffles me.

JMO

 

[DexterMorgan]

If you can afford 20 million for a home then giving the deceased estate 1 million shouldn't be a problem in this case. Even though it was a accident. He was still partially at fault. Jmo

 

[Kimberlyd125]

If you can afford 20 million for a home then giving the deceased estate 1 million shouldn't be a problem in this case. Even though it was a accident. He was still partially at fault. Jmo

That's my point! Just because you have money (because you have made money) does not mean you automatically owe it.

Why does her step children need the money exactly? And why does he owe it?

If he were like me, pay check to pay check, would he owe them money for an accident?

 

[DexterMorgan]

That's my point! Just because you have money (because you have made money) does not mean you automatically owe it.

Why does her step children need the money exactly? And why does he owe it?

If he were like me, pay check to pay check, would he owe them money for an accident?

Simple. Criminal act or not. He caused the accident due to his simple negligence of not keeping a safe enough distance while towing a trailer.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Simple. Criminal act or not. He caused the accident due to his simple negligence of not keeping a safe enough distance while towing a trailer.

But you made your point that he has a lot of money so he should pretty much just throw a million their way.

I'll ask again... If he were like me, pay check to pay check, would he owe them money for an accident?

Should every person who unintentionally hurts someone by accident have to pay money? What will money do? It won't bring her back.

And her estate will get plenty of insurance money.

 

[DexterMorgan]

But you made your point that he has a lot of money so he should pretty much just throw a million their way.

I'll ask again... If he were like me, pay check to pay check, would he owe them money for an accident?

Should every person who unintentionally hurts someone by accident have to pay money? What will money do? It won't bring her back.

And her estate will get plenty of insurance money.

People get chances to make amends sometimes. But they no longer have that. So they do have grounds to get something imo.

Now a person who lives check to check would still have to pay as well if they lose a civil suit. But it's rarely worth the headache since it would take 100 years to collect and your lawyer wants his money now.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Caitlyn Jenner can afford a $20million house because she earned it, a gold medal in the decathlon .. possibly the most challenging even at the Olympics, post that she invested well enough to see her earnings grow .. good for her! This has no relevance whatsoever to how liable she is for the accident, that is a matter of what happened on that day. From my understanding of the accident Caitlyn did her best under the circumstances to avoid being killed herself and there was absolutely no malice or deliberate negligence in her actions. People see a rich person sometimes and think they can wangle a way to get their hands on some of it, not necessarily unless they are genuinely entitled .. we shall see.

 

[DexterMorgan]

Caitlyn Jenner can afford a $20million house because she earned it, a gold medal in the decathlon .. possibly the most challenging even at the Olympics, post that she invested well enough to see her earnings grow .. good for her! This has no relevance whatsoever to how liable she is for the accident, that is a matter of what happened on that day. From my understanding of the accident Caitlyn did her best under the circumstances to avoid being killed herself and there was absolutely no malice or deliberate negligence in her actions. People see a rich person sometimes and think they can wangle a way to get their hands on some of it, not necessarily unless they are genuinely entitled .. we shall see.

And this is why civil court will make that decision. They will determine everything. Plus I agree. If he was a broke crackhead. Then nobody would think about suing him. And yes it is a money grab attempt because of his financial status.

But there is slight Merritt here. Jmo

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Shouldn't we be showing some respect for Caitlyn and referring to her using the correct pronoun?

 

[tangelo]

That's my point! Just because you have money (because you have made money) does not mean you automatically owe it.

Why does her step children need the money exactly? And why does he owe it?

If he were like me, pay check to pay check, would he owe them money for an accident?

your poor financial situation wouldn't stop me from going after you in court, if you slammed your car into a loved one's & walked away scot-free. you'd see a chunk of that paycheck going to me every week. whether or not I needed the money. maybe I'd burn it.

 

[tangelo]

Shouldn't we be showing some respect for Caitlyn and referring to her using the correct pronoun?

bruce jenner, male, killed the woman with his vehicle, before the whole caitlyn deal.

 

[SophieRose]

But you made your point that he has a lot of money so he should pretty much just throw a million their way.

I'll ask again... If he were like me, pay check to pay check, would he owe them money for an accident?

Should every person who unintentionally hurts someone by accident have to pay money? What will money do? It won't bring her back.

And her estate will get plenty of insurance money.

Insurance has limits and I thought I read that most of the insurance money will go toward the woman who was injured in the accident.

CJ ought to donate money to an animal charity, the victim's interest.

 

[katydid23]

Shouldn't we be showing some respect for Caitlyn and referring to her using the correct pronoun?

Caitlyn didn't get in the car accident, Bruce did. JMO

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Same person though .. I think it's disrespectful to use the wrong pronoun.

 

[katydid23]

Same person though .. I think it's disrespectful to use the wrong pronoun.

My friend is transgender. She uses the 'proper' pronouns for her 'two lives.' If we talk about something from her former life then she says 'he' is the proper pronoun. 'HE' had a hard time before she made the transition. It wouldn't make sense to say 'she ' was a college football star and fathered a child.

It is disrespectful to call Caitlyn, 'he.' But it is not disrespectful to call Bruce 'he' , when referring to his past actions.

 

[sonjay]

My friend is transgender. She uses the 'proper' pronouns for her 'two lives.' If we talk about something from her former life then she says 'he' is the proper pronoun. 'HE' had a hard time before she made the transition. It wouldn't make sense to say 'she ' was a college football star and fathered a child.

It is disrespectful to call Caitlyn, 'he.' But it is not disrespectful to call Bruce 'he' , when referring to his past actions.

I agree. I have a transgender brother. I wouldn't get naked in front of him today. But when we were little kids, I shared a bathtub with my sister. I didn't have a brother at the time.