CA - 13 victims, ages 2 to 29, shackled in home by parents, Perris, 15 Jan 2018 #4

[PoirotryInMotion]

'It is the reason they moved to California to be nearer to Hollywood,' Lambert said of Louise's desire to become a star, like Kate Gosselin and her children.

Lambert and Louise's younger sister, Teresa Robinette, shared more details of the twisted life of their sister and her husband in an exclusive interview with DailyMail.com.

'Only last month Louise told me her and David were planning to have another child,' Lambert said.
‘I asked her why on earth they wanted more children and she said about wanting a reality TV show.'

Lambert said that Louise 'thought the world would be fascinated by their lives. He added: 'They thought it would make them millions and household names. They didn’t care about the kids – it was all about them.'

Lambert was the last person to speak with Louise Turpin before her arrest.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ted-children-TV-show.html?ito=social-facebook


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First interview with him (and her youngest sister), he says their last contact was in January on the phone, where she mentioned wanting a 14th child and a school bus. Next day's media account has taped interviews with a (rightfully) very angry sister and half brother decrying LT, with sister saying she is "dead to me" and Lambert saying he hopes they torture her the rest of her life. Now today, it's 'they moved to CA so they could be on a reality show and make millions.'

Exclusives are paid interviews, all rights. Exclusives with DailyMail are Very Well Paid interviews. Maybe this is just me, but I am starting to wonder if embellishment and opportunism is a genetic thing, and at this point I'm not inclined to trust this guy any further than I can throw him.

JMO.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

As heartwarming a post as this sounds, it actually a lot more complex. If they befriend cootie kid, they become a cootie kid. Do we really want to insist out kids ostracize themselves to make up for a lack of adult responsibility? Is that fair? Is it healthy? Peer aceptence, friendship Is a huge deal for children, being kind is virtue we all hope to instill in our kids, but self sacrifice needs to be warrented, lest it border on pathology in itself.

Imo, it's not this third grade peer group that failed this child. They were behaving like third graders.

With respect, I disagree. When a couple of well liked kids befriend an outcast, it can cause most of the other kids to have a heart, rather than marginalizing the whole lot. When I was a kid we had Mackie in our class. He had thick glasses, mental delays, behavioral issues, and would wet his pants regularly and smell of urine. For years he spent half the day in class with us, and half the day in Special Ed.

I have no idea why no one was mean to him, but we weren't. And if he got violent, we all knew just to move away and tell a teacher. (I do realize now that it's very odd he was placed in a regular class at all, but this was the early 80s.) Eventually, he was moved to a special Ed school, but no one who reached out to him or was kind to him got marginalized by other kids. There seemed to be an unspoken rule that you had to be nice to Mackie no matter what he did. If you weren't, the rest of us would actually scold you.

Taking this into modern times, my mom was just telling me the other day about a school in Iowa that plays my nephew's school in sports, and how supportive the whole school is of typically marginalized kids. I know this situation is different, but the point is that it's possible to create an environment where kids are kind to the marginalized. Anyway, they have a high schooler with Down's Syndrome who is a cheerleader, and another in a wheelchair who is wheeled out with them to do cheers with her arms, and when the cheerleaders spin around during a set, someone spins the wheelchair for her.

Now some may say this can only happen for disabled kids, but not for those who are simply odd or smell or whatever. But I grew up with another family in town who did not shower very frequently. I'm not saying those kids hung out with the popular crowd, but they were not treated badly by the rest of us. We held our noses and said nothing of the smell. The school arranged for the girl to get showers and sanitary products there. We all knew but pretended we didn't see this. We knew it would be unfair to be mean to them for things they couldn't control. Anyone who was mean was set straight by the rest of us.

I don't know if CPS ever visited them, or if they could have done anything about the lack of hygiene because they had food and clothing and never seemed to be physically abused. So the school tried to step in to help them in ways they could.

So I say, teach your kids to be kind, reach out, and stand up for the marginalized. If a few kids do this, it can create an environment where it's not acceptable for other kids to pick on kids who have issues they can't control.

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[ShHolmz]

http://abc7.com/donations-being-accepted-for-perris-child-abuse-victims/2960605/



PERRIS, Calif. (KABC) --
The Corona Chamber of Commerce and Riverside University Health System are gathering donations to help the 13 people held captive by their parents in Perris.

Child Protective Services received thousands of calls from people who want to help the children and adults who were found extremely malnourished and some chained to beds inside a Perris home.

The Riverside University Health Center Foundation set up a fund to accept donations and the chamber of commerce created a page listing clothing sizes and items needed for the victims. You can access the page by clicking here or here.

People who want to make donations are warned that any GoFundMe accounts created for the children were fake, as the health center fund is the only legitimate donation source.

Sorry, trouble with iPad.

 

[Sconnie]

I am about 7 pages behind, so apologies if I am repeating anything.

I don't believe that baby belongs to the 17-year-old. Although the timing of the "lewd" act coincides, I just don't see it. She would have been 15-years-old, and emaciated. A pregnancy would have been very high risk, and if both she and the baby would have survived a home birth it would have been a miracle, imo.

I think it is much more likely that the 29-year-old sister was very, very sick and the 17-year-old realized someone needed to get help for her.

I wonder if LT's fertility was fading those last years, hence the wedding renewals. Kind of like a twisted "let's get married, and have a baby" juvenile fantasy. Thinking if they were newly married she would be able to get pregnant, if that makes sense.

All of these thoughts are just my wandering brain and my opinion only.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

Absolutely agree. What I am thinking is perhaps a combo of a truly loving home and a benefactor will emerge for these children. There's something about the sorrow of their plight right now, contrasted with the forced happiness of the photo ops that has me beset... And, it had to be so dire for number 8 sibling to chance it. As the days turn into a week, it sinks in...

I have to salute WS... I have been reading every post, every observation, every concern for their future well being, the call to respect for their dignity.

I don't think there is a LE, or Medical person, or legal counsel, or foster care program that is going to let these children slip through any cracks. I don't think there is a person on the planet who is not horrified.

Just think what healing exists in a good soup, a good meal? I think of how a happy belly might feel...

These children have never seen a dentist... Ok, that's no fun... Omg, when I think of just all the normal things I can't wrap my brain around it.

That's why I agree that a loving consistency is paramount to healing. Someone who is there through thick and thin. (With Huge support)

Ironically, the forced happy pictures do reveal an incredible bond of closeness. These are not kids acting out in photos but all lined up in solidarity. Imo- they are close... And they know love.

I'd like to see one of the wealthy Hollywood do-gooders like Oprah or Angelina Jolie step up with some funds. Right now it seems that the woman who played Nellie Olsen is the most interested, but I can't imagine she's terribly wealthy. Maybe she can get with some other Hollywood types and light a fire under the butts of those with plenty of money.

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[Deleted member 158085]

I've not caught up with everything overnight, but you know, this doesn't sit completely square for me.

We're told all the children have developmental problems, which I'm guessing are the result of nutritional deficiencies. From memory, a pp mentioned or quoted reference to a 17 year old (and I assume that means this 17 year old) having had the equivalent of only a first grade level of education, which is what? That intended for a 5 or 6 year old?

I may be completely off base here but I find it hard to believe that such a person could spend 2 years planning anything.

First grade level education does not mean her mental capacity was only at a first grade level. She may be mentally delayed, but not to that degree.

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[Elley Mae]

I am about 7 pages behind, so apologies if I am repeating anything.

I don't believe that baby belongs to the 17-year-old. Although the timing of the "lewd" act coincides, I just don't see it. She would have been 15-years-old, and emaciated. A pregnancy would have been very high risk, and if both she and the baby would have survived a home birth it would have been a miracle, imo.

I think it is much more likely that the 29-year-old sister was very, very sick and the 17-year-old realized someone needed to get help for her.

I wonder if LT's fertility was fading those last years, hence the wedding renewals. Kind of like a twisted "let's get married, and have a baby" juvenile fantasy. Thinking if they were newly married she would be able to get pregnant, if that makes sense.

All of these thoughts are just my wandering brain and my opinion only.

Agree, i also wondered if the last (2 year old) was a change of life baby. I have known families that have multiple children and the last one is a few years behind the others, my family included.

 

[Niner]

This is just speculation on my part about what may have happened. I hope someday we'll get the details of how the brave young lady escaped.

Oh I'm pretty sure there are some writers out there wanting to do a book on this one! I sure hope so. I too want to read about Survivor #8's brave escape! How's that for a title "Brave Escape" ??

As an aside, for people outside the US having trouble viewing some of the court documents try using Tunnel Bear VPN and tunnelling to the US. It’s worked for me.

Okay - thank you, but I am computer illiterate - over 70 !! hwow: could you tell me "where" I can find this Tunnel? Does it go under the Atlantic?

K - finished another page.... one more to go - I Hope! Okay - I admit - I skipped over 200 posts...

 

[Deleted member 158085]

It hasn't been claimed anywhere that the kids were not allowed to watch tv, has it? Be it DVD's or normal TV.

Yes, it has. Very early on, one of the aunts who lived with them for a time said they weren't allowed to watch TV.

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[BlinkOfAnI]

Am I the only one that can't shake the Elvis videos? I've watched them several times and aside from the serious awkwardness I can't shake the oldest victim. She she has experienced the entire family progression. Possibly from a mother that once showed her love, to neglect, then abuse. Toward the end of the video when they were all on stage she kept looking at her mother. It struck me as though she may have seen a spark of the mother she once knew and was hoping to make that connection again. Probably reading to much into it but it's haunting me for some reason.

 

[Sconnie]

I'll second that. They are quick to report, accuret, and thorough, and usually have more depth than other coverage.

They just have extremely poor writing skills!!

I agree with you, though. Usually, there is truth to everything they report. I just wish they would edit their stories better!!

 

[JerricaBenton]

The date of the lewd act charge and the birth of baby 13 do not add up. The charge mentions Nov 2012 - Nov 2013, and the birth of the baby appears to be Apr 2015.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

Dammit, why is it the Daily Mail who is running most of the updates on this story? It’s a vile, hateful tabloid which I would normally refuse to read.

They probably pay the most to those willing to talk, and are used to hunting folks down for stories. It's kind of predatory. But that's why they are getting the scoop.

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[ohreally]

I do hope that they plead guilty and the survivors are spared a trial. I also hope that any of them wishing to give a victim impact satement will be allowed to.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

On top of all that, there are basic lack of life skills thesesiblings do not have. I think a foster parent has to be ready to deal with the fact that these siblings don't know how to clean, pick up after themselves, take care of their own personal hygiene, proper bathrooms habits, get themselves food or cook it, do laundry, fold clothes, etc etc etc basic stuff.

That's where occupational therapy would come in. I see no reason that occupational therapists could not be part of a team of home health care sent in.

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[Elley Mae]

I do hope that they plead guilty and the survivors are spared a trial. I also hope that any of them wishing to give a victim impact satement will be allowed to.

Yes the impact statement. If i were one to give one, i would be speaking between eating apple pie.

 

[Niseyg123]

That’s interesting, I’ve been pondering who the dominant partner was in the marriage. In many of these harrowing cases one is bad and one is mad.
Do we know when the father last worked?
If he was working for most of the years, I’d lay most of the blame with Louise, she had it in her power to give those children a decent life while he was at work, but didn’t.
I don’t get the impression that she was frightened of him, watching their interactions during the wedding renewal thing, I got the impression he was fairly laid back. Also the children seemed to be genuinely laughing with / at dad during the ceremony,
I think she has a personality disorder.
I’d be interested in reading who others think was the controlling partner.

Yea, she's definitely the dominant one. He's not innocent, but his expression during the arraignment was interesting to compare to hers. He was very much in the deer in the headlights but angry looking too-- and I wonder if at her. She was very alert and interacting with her lawyer (i.e. Trying to control things still). She truly thinks she did nothing wrong or if it was wrong it was justified (she was "perplexed" as to why she was being arrested so this seems normal to her). I can totally see her reducing him to a pile of crap. I don't have proof obviously, but just hunch based on how relationships like theirs work, is he prob isn't surprised they are there and is now resentful that she got them in this mess. Idk. Just thinking out loud. I have zero doubts tho that she rules the roost. Another poster and I have been discussing this bpd (borderline personality disorder) aspect back and forth a few times yesterday. We both have a family member with bpd so the alarm bells went off as more info about her LT comes out.


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[enelram]

If I can try and think like the 17 yr. old, my thoughts are things were deteriorating within the family and she knew it and saw it. Yes, maybe the 29 yr. old's health was seriously deteriorating, but possibly the baby was now of an age where
she was being 'caged' in the bedroom with the others.
In my dysfunctional family, my mother 'kept' the baby separate from the rest of us and treated the baby almost normally. If you can call your mother still calling the youngest 'Baby" til she left home for college. "Baby" was well
fed, not beaten, well clothed and sent to a good college, unlike all the other siblings. Baby was special and always
the favorite.But if studied, you can figure out why. Weird dynamics in some screwed up families.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

While I've never done this myself, I think people who do so may do it with a mind to showing the kids how valued and loved on they are. Particularly in this case where the victims are still living and may run across their story in the news or internet someday.

Seeing flowers, balloons, and teddy bears beats seeing comments about their awkwardness, appearance, and hypothetical genetic flaws in any case. :rose:

But it's so wasteful, particularly when they are alive and gifts and cards could actually be sent to them. Heck, they need the money blown on this stuff, and a nice card could actually be mailed to them.

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[bestill]

They will plea bargain. There is no way any responsible legal counsel would let this go to trial. They have no chance of being acquitted. A trial would be bad for everybody involved.

I so hope you're correct! But I don't think they care one bit about how bad it would be for their children. My hope is their counsel will advise them to plea bargain, hopefully they don't have a showboat attorney that wants media attention.

Family members wanting to adopt the children.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/house-horrors-couple-planned-more-11884974

(Please delete if this has already been posted or is not allowed.)

BBM No! No! No! They are strangers and they are strangers with "memories" that the kids don't need to know about. The sooner the kids can move on from the past the better. Can you imagine all the "mom" and "dad" stories these family members would be telling? They keep coming up with new stuff for the media, I can only imagine what they would be telling the kids about the family past.

I'd like to see one of the wealthy Hollywood do-gooders like Oprah or Angelina Jolie step up with some funds. Right now it seems that the woman who played Nellie Olsen is the most interested, but I can't imagine she's terribly wealthy. Maybe she can get with some other Hollywood types and light a fire under the butts of those with plenty of money.

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I would love to see celebrity help and support - but it needs to be done in silence. The last thing these kids need, imo, is for some celebrity to adopt this as their cause for attention.