CA - 13 victims, ages 2 to 29, shackled in home by parents, Perris, 15 Jan 2018 #4

[Spice]

I will look up "The Resilient Child", thanks.

Can you explain what a genogram would show?

http://www.giftfromwithin.org/html/reschild.html (Resilience)

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/30/m...mtrref=www.nytimes.com&mtrref=www.nytimes.com

 

[Webby45]

I'm really trying not to let my mind wander into dark thoughts, since what we know about this case is already horrific enough as it is. BUT there is something I need to say.

Ever since the first time I saw unblurred pictures of the kids, I keep getting a very ominous feeling about one of the older sons. The one who is wearing glasses. I am extremely disturbed by one of the pictures where they are wearing the red Dr Suess shirts, which looks like it was taken late in the day and they are close to the camera (or maybe the picture was cropped). I know this may seem crazy, but I swear I am getting this ominous vibe when I look into his eyes that he has seen some especially horrible things. All of the kids have suffered and seen bad things, of course...but the vibe I'm getting is that he has truly seen some nightmarish things. They way he is smiling reminds me a lot of an old WWI picture I saw somewhere where a soldier was sitting in a trench and smiling maniacally because he had finally just snapped and totally lost his mind.

Maybe my imagination is just getting a little too wild, but this is just a very strong feeling I'm getting. For some reason, I'm just getting a weird vibe about that kid in particular.

We know he got special favors..allowed to take college classes..go to Kristy Kreme..could it be possible since he was young and maybe favored a young DT, LT viewed him as a lover since she sees herself as a teen? Perhaps some of the kids are his...??

 

[LietKynes]

An official stated that out of the many calls they've received from all over expressing concern and interest in adopting, not ONE has been from ANY family member.

These people seem after only two things..money and attention. The kids probably don't even matter to them. The one sister has had her share of issues too, and even had her own kids removed from her at one point.

Theyve been on TV weeping and saying this and that like they're so concerned and love them, but I bet none of them have even offered to donate supplies, clothes, or money to the kids.

Both sides are clearly very deranged and sheds a lot of light into LT and DT IMO. I don't believe much of what they say.

As for the neighbors in TX..how did she know their names and who she played with if they wouldn't tell their names? Were they only able to identify them after this came out in the news and photos and stories appeared with their names"

sorry if this has been posted, but I can't find the krispy kreme photo..can someone share please?

SABBM

Re: The bolded bit : That's probably for for the best !

The sister's story changed... this was discussed already,
First it sounded like LT's dad "was coming on to the sister sexually" after LT left.
Then she changed it to an extended family member -- NOT their parents. She made this clear in her 20/20 interview.
It appeared she enjoyed the attention.

My .02 is that the seeds for destruction were sowed in both LT and DT's families.
Something clearly went wrong for these "parents" to have perpetuated this abuse and dysfunction for so long.

 

[bestill]

Do y'all find it strange that not ONE of DT's co-workers have spoken out? We're hearing from people that really didn't know them very well but nothing from those that worked with him and saw him on a daily basis.

 

[Niseyg123]

Animal control officers will inspect residences to determine whether the home is suitable for the dogs. Because this work will be carried out by local animal control officers, only Perris residents may apply.

http://beta.latimes.com/local/lanow...is-couple-20180119-story.html#nt=oft07a-17gp1


So you can homeschool in cali and not be checked but for dog adoptions your home will be inspected.

Btw not against home schooling.

Precisely. We homeschool so I appreciate your note that I aren't against it. Its sickening to me that almost everywhere, that people are more concerned with animal welfare than children's. People will call LE on someone in a snap for a tethered dog but when they see kids marching for hours at a time they do nothing. Smdh. Even worse is that when people DO call justice still is not served. I've experienced this firsthand with a crazy lady in our neighborhood. DSS totally dropped the ball. Was pathetic. Anyway. Just agreeing


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[Dogface]

Regarding the bruises on LT...none are alarming to me at all. I am constantly covered in bruises that I have no idea how I get. I have issues with iron absorption and am anemic. After my daughter was born, I was severely anemic. Now the bruise on the little girls wrist in the plaid dress...that’s another story [emoji35]


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[Dogface]

In defense of Dr. Phil, he was a great advocate for Dylan Redwine and his family.

As well as Michelle Knight.


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[LietKynes]

We know he got special favors..allowed to take college classes..go to Kristy Kreme..could it be possible since he was young and maybe favored a young DT, LT viewed him as a lover since she sees herself as a teen? Perhaps some of the kids are his...??

SABBM

Nothing would surprise me from these LT/DT monsters.
No wonder the authorities are conducting more dna tests.
:moo:

 

[osu]

They were so clannish,” says Milligan, 50. “I assumed they were extremely religious because they had that number of kids and the ones that home-school are normally like that. They don’t want the influences of the outer world.”

One particular encounter with the Turpins haunts her. It was about two years ago and three of the children were outside their house, under the vigilant eye of their father, constructing a nativity scene.

“There were two girls who looked 11 or 12 and a boy who looked 14, though now I’m thinking that was the 29-year-old. They were sitting on the grass making the manger with a bale of hay. My son and I said it looked really good. They just froze. They were absolutely terrified.

“We said: ‘We don’t want to hurt you. We live just across the street and we’re just giving you a compliment.’ They still didn’t move.”

The boy, she says, seemed desperate to win the approval of his father. “When he would tell him to get this or get that, the boy would run as fast as he could. He was afraid.”

~snip
https://myaccount.news.com.au/sites...fd479410f95dbad4315c059a3b3&memtype=anonymous


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[wenwe4]

This case reminds me of Erika Murray in the Blackstone, MA house of horrors, where they found children laying in filth who were never cared for & upon further inspection found remains of 3 infants. House full of human waste yet normal to all on the outside.

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/s...und-Erika-Murray-charged-Blackstone-Sept-2014

 

[MsPooh]

I'm really trying not to let my mind wander into dark thoughts, since what we know about this case is already horrific enough as it is. BUT there is something I need to say.

Ever since the first time I saw unblurred pictures of the kids, I keep getting a very ominous feeling about one of the older sons. The one who is wearing glasses. I am extremely disturbed by one of the pictures where they are wearing the red Dr Suess shirts, which looks like it was taken late in the day and they are close to the camera (or maybe the picture was cropped). I know this may seem crazy, but I swear I am getting this ominous vibe when I look into his eyes that he has seen some especially horrible things. All of the kids have suffered and seen bad things, of course...but the vibe I'm getting is that he has truly seen some nightmarish things. They way he is smiling reminds me a lot of an old WWI picture I saw somewhere where a soldier was sitting in a trench and smiling maniacally because he had finally just snapped and totally lost his mind. He saw too much.

Maybe my imagination is just getting a little too wild, but this is just a very strong feeling I'm getting. For some reason, I'm just getting a weird vibe about that kid in particular.

Shell Shocked and I thought that too! And all the girls had the same sweet little voice. Sadly, I am pretty sure this will get so much worse before it gets better.

 

[Ct92404]

We know he got special favors..allowed to take college classes..go to Kristy Kreme..could it be possible since he was young and maybe favored a young DT, LT viewed him as a lover since she sees herself as a teen? Perhaps some of the kids are his...??

No, no, no...what I'm saying is I think that kid has SEEN horrific things. Even more so than the other kids. I'm thinking that IF it's true that at some point some other kids died in the past (God I hope not), he SAW it happen...and perhaps saw what the parents did with the bodies. Geez. I can't even believe I'm thinking about all this.

I don't think he got any special treatment at all. In fact, I think he and the oldest daughter got the worst abuse, going all the way back to Texas.

 

[Tricia]

A brand new thread is on the way soon.

Tricia

 

[Elley Mae]

I'm really trying not to let my mind wander into dark thoughts, since what we know about this case is already horrific enough as it is. BUT there is something I need to say.

Ever since the first time I saw unblurred pictures of the kids, I keep getting a very ominous feeling about one of the older sons. The one who is wearing glasses. I am extremely disturbed by one of the pictures where they are wearing the red Dr Suess shirts, which looks like it was taken late in the day and they are close to the camera (or maybe the picture was cropped). I know this may seem crazy, but I swear I am getting this ominous vibe when I look into his eyes that he has seen some especially horrible things. All of the kids have suffered and seen bad things, of course...but the vibe I'm getting is that he has truly seen some nightmarish things. They way he is smiling reminds me a lot of an old WWI picture I saw somewhere where a soldier was sitting in a trench and smiling maniacally because he had finally just snapped and totally lost his mind. He saw too much.

Maybe my imagination is just getting a little too wild, but this is just a very strong feeling I'm getting. For some reason, I'm just getting a weird vibe about that kid in particular.

“Wearing the glasses” wonder if he was the last Dr. appt.

 

[enelram]

https://www.genopro.com/genogram/

A Genogram is a tool used by mental health professoinals/clinical social workers/clinicians in their work with individuals and families. It is like a family tree but goes way beyond that as it outlines relationships, interactions, psychological factors etc throughout the family through generations. It goes very deep. They are amazing tools for the clinician and in the healing of the person.

aH YES, very interesting. This a relatively new tool since my days of studying human behavior. I believe I've done much of 'my' genogram in my head over the years. It does help to understand the intracacies of one's family dynamics.
Thank You for pointing me to this.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

We know he got special favors..allowed to take college classes..go to Kristy Kreme..could it be possible since he was young and maybe favored a young DT, LT viewed him as a lover since she sees herself as a teen? Perhaps some of the kids are his...??

Let's not go there in speculation without some evidence.

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[Tricia]

Remember, not everyone is going to agree on everything in this thread.

Posters may come to totally different conclusions even after reading the same material.

If a poster does not believe everything the children are saying they have a right to express that. As long as it is expressed in a mature manner and within the guidelines of TOS.

 

[DakotaMayi]

A third grade classmate of the oldest survivor wrote a fb post about how oldest was the “cootie” child that year and some msm picked it up.

I can’t find a link to the story right now, but it is somewhere on this thread from the last 24 hours.

Thank you, D. I appreciate it.

 

[Elley Mae]

Bringing forward.

This was posted by Neeha Curtis @ Cleveland 19 News, on her FB page. I’ve copied and pasted the full text below.

* This is a post from someone who was in 3rd grade with the oldest daughter.
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J—— Turpin was the one girl at Meadowcreek Elementary that nobody wanted to be caught talking to. Every grade level had a designated "cootie kid" and she held the title for our year. She was a frail girl, had pin-straight hair with bangs, and often wore the same purple outfit. She was often made fun of by the other third graders because her clothes would sometimes look as though they had been dragged through mud, which she would also smell like on most days. I distinctly remember my entire third grade class scoffing at her one day because our teacher had asked her to discard a scrunchy she had used to tie her hair out of a discarded tin foil wrapper from an old Hershey's bar. After that year, J—— moved away, and she was forgotten about after we moved on to the the next "cootie kid."

Several years later, after high school, I found myself thinking about her again. I was bored at home and was passing the time by facebook stalking old elementary school classmates to see how they turned out, and I remember searching specifically for J——-. Her name was so distinct that there couldn't be any more than a few people who shared the name, yet no matching results came up. I had naturally assumed that J——- was one of the lucky few who hadn't been bit by the social media bug. I also thought somewhere, somehow, J——- was probably living her best life, showing up all of us gawky third graders in Mrs. Llano's class how far she'd come. She was going to be that person at the reunion looking completely flawless and making six figures while the rest of us tried to conceal our receding hair lines and minimum wage jobs.

I feel like we all kind of have that hope that those people who were marginalized growing up (sometimes by our own hands) somehow grew past those circumstances, and essentially grew up to kick in real life. That's what I had hoped for
J——-. That she had used the insults that we hurled at her, the isolation we provided for her, and the ill-looks we gave her and used it as ammunition to forge a successful path in life. I was so sure that was what had happened, but today I was in for a rude awakening (see articles below).

I've been reading these articles and seeing these statements and looking at these pictures, and I can't help but feel an overwhelming sense of guilt and shame. Of course, none of us are responsible for the events that ensued, but you can't help but feel rotten when the classmate your peers made fun of for "smelling like poop" quite literally had to sit in her own waste because she was chained to her bed. It is nothing but sobering to know that the person who sat across from you at the lunch table went home to squalor and filth while you went home to a warm meal and a bedtime story.

The resounding lesson here is a simple one, something that we're taught from the very beginning: be nice. Teach your children to be nice. If you see someone that's isolated, befriend them. If you see someone that's marginalized, befriend them. If you see someone that's different, befriend them. We can never completely put ourselves in others' shoes nor can we completely understand the circumstances that one is brought up in, but a simple act of kindness and acceptance may be the ray of hope that that person needs. Befriend the J——- Turpins of the world.

J——-, despite being vehemently vilified by her peers, was still one of the most pleasant people I have had the opportunity to meet. She had this whimsical optimism to her that couldn't be dampened, couldn't be doused no matter what anybody threw at her. That cheerful disposition is what makes me certain that J—— will prevail. That one day, I'll remember to facebook stalk her, and see that she is living her best life. That despite being let down by her parents and by her peers alike,
J——- rose above it all. And I'm going to be rooting for her, as her peer, as her classmate, as her friend. J—— Turpin: from "cootie girl" to "conquered the world."

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5359201/house-horrors-turpin-family-kids-squalid-texas-home/

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[enelram]

Do y'all find it strange that not ONE of DT's co-workers have spoken out? We're hearing from people that really didn't know them very well but nothing from those that worked with him and saw him on a daily basis.

Yes and also interesting is several MSM have said they could not even get a yes or no on whether DT still worked at
Northrup. Just No Comment.