CA - 4 Family Members Kidnapped From Business, Merced County, Oct 2022 *arrest*

  • #581
RIP; so heartbreaking
 
  • #582
Perp thought he was gonna make a big enough score to disappear and was caught offguard when the money he could get was not much
I think your scenario is likely. Sadly, this would not be the first time that criminal violence escalated due to dashed expectations.

Maybe....

- Dimwitted perpetrator equates business ownership with wealth. Wealth must include copious quantities of cash, bling jewelry and say, the coolest guns. Just like in the rap, out law country, and narcocorrido videos- right?

- Perpetrator does not find the expected cash, bling or kewl weapons at the store. Instead, he finds hard work and relative modesty. Anger mixes with fear of being returning to prison and shame of being 'dissed by friends for botching the robbery.

- The perpetrator then makes an impulsive decision to "double down" and kidnaps the victims. Maybe, he intends to force them to reveal ATM accounts (where copious quantities of cash must be stashed- right?). Maybe he intends to loot their home or other business (you know, where the real bling must be).

- Perpetrator then panics when complications develop. He still cant obtain the expected cash, nor the expected bling. Enraged, he then murders the entire family? Or, even more horrible, did he intend to murder them all along?
 
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  • #583
Killed a beautiful family for the chance at a few hundred dollars at best.

There is no strong enough words for what this guy is.
 
  • #584
So they never did release the correct photo of, let’s just call him the “barbaric monster”, I wonder if he did a balance check on the ATM card as as far as I know, you can only access $300 at a time. At least mine is that way. However, I can complete a transaction for $300 and then do another one, so not sure how many times I can do that as I’ve only tried twice.
 
  • #585
My assumption was he used a gun in the murders, but considering the gun has not been found, there's a good chance he attempted suicide using another instrument. It wouldn't surprise me if he used a fake gun in the abductions and killed them some other way. Imo
 
  • #586
My thoughts right now.
Perp thought he was gonna make a big enough score to disappear and was caught offguard when the money he could get was not much
I had been thinking he shot himself but I saw above that they still have not found gun, so I do not know now how he attempted suicide
his fear of returning to prison was great
he knew if he didn't get out of town or out of the country he was toast

just random thought processing, I guess I was afraid this would happen, but didn't want to believe it. still sort of shocked.
If there was another person with him perp may not have shot himself.
 
  • #587
So they never did release the correct photo of, let’s just call him the “barbaric monster”, I wonder if he did a balance check on the ATM card as as far as I know, you can only access $300 at a time. At least mine is that way. However, I can complete a transaction for $300 and then do another one, so not sure how many times I can do that as I’ve only tried twice.

The ATM photo of the perpetrator was released and posted awhile back. I don't want to look at it again, otherwise I would help you find it. It was very unsettling, IMO.
 
  • #588
It's weird because he leaves her to finish getting in the truck and she closes the door herself as he is walking to the driver's side. At least that's what I think I'm seeing. Starts at about 6 minutes here

this is so chilling
 
  • #589
The ATM photo of the perpetrator was released and posted awhile back. I don't want to look at it again, otherwise I would help you find it. It was very unsettling, IMO.
Law enforcement stated that the ATM photo released to the public was of the wrong guy, though!
 
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  • #590
I keep forgetting about the time difference. It appears very likely that they've found the bodies, as it would be unusual for someone of his rank to be there.

There's also the forthcoming statement too.
not in merced. its very rural.
 
  • #591
So, this man worked at a trucking company for 2 years and was fired. This kidnapping was at a new trucking business. I wonder if he had applied for a job there and didn't get it.

This is terrifying that a man with a history of such a violent terrorizing act was able to plead no contest and got 11 years (but served 8 and was on probation for 3).
i have a feeling that the other company was also sikh owned and he was aware they wear jewelery or maybe have cash on site or some such thing.
 
  • #592

Merced County Sheriff Vern Warnke says the bodies were found in an orchard near Indiana Rd. & Hutchinson Rd.
here it is in case someone else hasnt shared it. ive driven down 152 rhrough dos palos millions of times and seen indiana road.


 
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  • #594
I hope he recovers and sees that baby's face every time he closes his eyes for the rest of his life

i dedicate this eminem line to him -
"I hope you can't sleep and you dream about it
And when you dream
I hope you can't sleep and you scream about it"
 
  • #595
How close is this to their trucking business office?

Is this in the vicinity of where the cell phones were found?
yes close to the phones but about 30-40 min from the trucking co.
 
  • #596
i have a feeling that the other company was also sikh owned and he was aware they wear jewelery or maybe have cash on site or some such thing.
I think that could be a good possibility. There are alot of Sikhs in trucking, and Sikhs in that part of California go back generations. So, there could be a relatively high number in the area.
 
  • #597
But we usually hear about it, especially in big cases like this. Reporters are typically pretty dogged at locating and relaying search areas and LE activity. Twitter is usually abound with photos of sites, etc. Yet none of that thus far. Not saying it is indicative of anything, necessarily, just highly unusual.

JMO.

EDIT: Just saw news. So so sad. RIP. :(
that area is really rural. the company was toward the edge of merced on a highway and if he headed west, the whole route to where the bodies were is rural. i believe he circled back and dumped the truck after.
 
  • #598
I won't watch it ever again. It's too real, too nightmarish, to witness the last moments of four people who thought being compliant would save their lives. It's heartbreaking. I hate this evil man.
me either, i watched the extedned one and i dont want to watch it ever again.
 
  • #599
How can they ask for the Death Penalty? I thought California didn’t have the DP.
yes we do. the current governor has a moratorium but you can still file for it.
 
  • #600
The ATM photo of the perpetrator was released and posted awhile back. I don't want to look at it again, otherwise I would help you find it. It was very unsettling, IMO.
he had splatters on his shirt :(
 

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