Found Deceased CA - Alycia Yeoman, 20, Gridley, 30 March 2017 #1

[almagata]

Yeah but we can't talk about it here.
:tantrum:

Is there a scanner thread for this case?

 

[ann1989]

Ok. Yes link is a few post back

 

[Courtre]

i'm thinking that she was going to meet someone at that park/boat ramp off of pennington road. She went around the gate possibly heading to the park/boat ramp off of pennington rd. The reason to go down cooley to get to pennington would be actually to drive through the orchard as a known go around point to get to the boat ramp. She then got her truck stuck and got out of her truck and figured she would just walk around and meet whoever she was supposed to. I could actually see people even parking their cars in the orchard as good hiding place to get the car off of the road while being at the park while it's supposed to be closed. Kids and people are creative at meeting and being at places their not supposed to be for privacy. Did she live at home? Did her ex-boyfriend live at home? I'm thinking a planned or last minute meeting gone wrong. She had to have a reason to be out there that way. I think that shoe print is a female shoe print. But this is just my opinion.

Hours of operation
for boat launching and day use: 6:00 a.m. To 9:00 p.m.
The campground is open 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.
The gates close at 9:00 p.m. And open at 6:00 a.m.
https://www.co.sutter.ca.us/doc/government/depts/pw/pw_live_oak_park

completely, completely agree.

 

[everybodhi]

Is there a scanner thread for this case?

Come on down to the basement to see the scanner thread, curtesy of websleuth trigger.
Just don't talk here about anything you see there, it's against the rules.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...KING-NEWS!!!-Current-Scanner-Alerts-7/page943

 

[Mahouston69]

The campground would be a place I'd like to know more about. Maybe she was in her way there because there was a party? Or meeting some friends? But interesting it's open 24/7


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Live Oak Park & Recreation Area

https://www.yelp.com/biz/live-oak-p...tm_campaign=status_quo_sheet&ref=yelp-android

http://www.suttercounty.org/doc/government/depts/pw/pw_live_oak_park

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[everybodhi]

completely, completely agree.

If Aly met drove herself to the orchard to meet people and something bad happened to her, accident or not, why would someone take her phone to Yuba City and return it later?

 

[KaaBoom]

>snipped
For good reason.
The truck drove south on the levee, turned east into an orchard surrounded on the other three sides by the river​, there is an orchard road that meets near the truck, leading to a road all the way down onto a big sandbar on the bank.
I believe they had to know the land well or they wouldn't have known they could drive onto a private orchard levee, I would be afraid of being shot or arrested for trespassing myself.
There's nowhere to go from where the truck is except the orchard or the river.

It's California, not Alabama. Chances of being shot on private property would be slight. Looking at that area in Streetview it appears the roads are controlled with gates with Stop signs on them. The gates appear to be unlocked. In many cases you could simply drive around the gate. It looks to me like they may have just been lost. They drove as far east on Colley Road as they could, probably until they came to a closed gate. The gate to the south may have been left open, so they turned south on the levee road, and continued to Pennington Road. The gate there may have been closed, so they couldn't access Pennington Road, so they turned east into the orchard. There is a large public parking lot just to the south of that. That may have been where they were trying to go.

 

[Crazyjster]

If Aly met drove herself to the orchard to meet people and something bad happened to her, accident or not, why would someone take her phone to Yuba City and return it later?

I keep going back to the same place...it makes no sense that she would not use her phone after the last known time (7:51 pm). If she were driving home, even a little buzzed, driving back roads, that would be more reason to have her phone on and nearby, which would have it GPS ping her route and establish exactly when she left the home. I am guessing that isn't the case due to where her vehicle was found and where her phone pinged a couple of days later...which means she most likely not driving her vehicle I would guess

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[Courtre]

does anybody know who these ppl are that found the phone. I wish we could clarify if the ping at 430AM was the only was ping since 751 thurs.. thats what im assuming from what has been stated .... which means the phone was dead/off b4 her truck pulled into the levee and that means whoever found it never turned it on( or else it would of pinged).... Another thought maybe those who found it and had it for a few days carried it on them and hppn to be in yuba city and jst tried turning it on coincidentally near the residence causing the 430 am ping thinking nothing of it... SO confused..none of this fits quite as well as leaving the phone accidentally and noticing sun the phone still at ur residence and then tossing bk to where the truck is..

I think you're on to something here. If it's a small town, a Walmart might be a huge attraction- maybe a primary grocery store?

 

[Courtre]

If Aly met drove herself to the orchard to meet people and something bad happened to her, accident or not, why would someone take her phone to Yuba City and return it later?

I find the verbiage around the phone to be ambiguous and vague. I think that SO MUCH has been released about the details. More than normal. I mean they reported this guy's ADDRESS for goodness sake.

 

[LaneGirl]

Investigators asking for pictures and or videos AY.

http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article144311714.html

 

[Courtre]

It's California, not Alabama. Chances of being shot on private property would be slight. Looking at that area in Streetview it appears the roads are controlled with gates with Stop signs on them. The gates appear to be unlocked. In many cases you could simply drive around the gate. It looks to me like they may have just been lost. They drove as far east on Colley Road as they could, probably until they came to a closed gate. The gate to the south may have been left open, so they turned south on the levee road, and continued to Pennington Road. The gate there may have been closed, so they couldn't access Pennington Road, so they turned east into the orchard. There is a large public parking lot just to the south of that. That may have been where they were trying to go.

One of the first officers on the scene said that te parking lot was closed, and that people drive through the Orchard to get to the River all the time. Quite a few people get stuck.

 

[everybodhi]

It's California, not Alabama. Chances of being shot on private property would be slight. Looking at that area in Streetview it appears the roads are controlled with gates with Stop signs on them. The gates appear to be unlocked. In many cases you could simply drive around the gate. It looks to me like they may have just been lost. They drove as far east on Colley Road as they could, probably until they came to a closed gate. The gate to the south may have been left open, so they turned south on the levee road, and continued to Pennington Road. The gate there may have been closed, so they couldn't access Pennington Road, so they turned east into the orchard. There is a large public parking lot just to the south of that. That may have been where they were trying to go.

If you do a virtual drive on google down Pennington Road, you can see the gate on that end of the levee, there's space beside the gate, on the Pennington side, just like on the Comey side, that would be just as easy to drive around.
Watch the video of the security cam on Comey, the truck drove around the side of the closed gate to get onto the levee.

I respectfully disagree on the CA stereotype.
California, like Oregon, is not all the anti gun liberal haven of it's reputation, especially inland in farm country (like Oregon).
The tea party is strong out there.
Check out local's social media in Yuba City and Live Oak and you will find plenty of right wing conservatives and libertarians that are strong believers in the right to bear arms, the castle doctrine, and all the ideology that comes with it.
I see more right wing people than anti gun liberals in that area, more like Alabama folks than the CA stereotype.
Did you know there are more white supremacist gangs in CA than any other state, including Texas?

Read some of these links, you'll think you're in Alabama.

YUBA CITY (CBS13) – Local sheriffs and gun rights supporters joined forces Monday to voice their opposition to tougher gun control laws in California.
https://www.google.com/amp/sacramen...supporters-concerns-at-tea-party-meeting/amp/

Local right wing gun rights group meeting coming up 4/22/2017 at a church in YC.
http://shootersparadise.us/?p=1620

They have regular gun shows in YC.
https://gunshowtrader.com/gun-shows/yuba-city-ca-gun-show/

YC gun owners are strong believers and are very organized.
https://www.concealedcarry-ccw.com/The-Roadmap-for-Gun-Control/Yuba-City-California-CA/

This inland CA property owner shot and killed a trespasser in his sweet potato patch.
http://www.guns.com/2013/07/24/ca-h...ls-homeless-trespasser-caught-stealing-video/

 

[everybodhi]

I keep going back to the same place...it makes no sense that she would not use her phone after the last known time (7:51 pm). If she were driving home, even a little buzzed, driving back roads, that would be more reason to have her phone on and nearby, which would have it GPS ping her route and establish exactly when she left the home. I am guessing that isn't the case due to where her vehicle was found and where her phone pinged a couple of days later...which means she most likely not driving her vehicle I would guess

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And what responsible (by all accounts) 20 year old that travels distances to college and two jobs doesn't have a cell charger in the vehicle?
:thinking:

 

[DocBrew]

I'm going with Occam's razor for now and say that she is likely somewhere near her truck/the orchard, and probably due to the immediate circumstances that she found herself in after driving off the road and getting stuck. If she was intoxicated - particularly if she was intoxicated from potent/laced cannabis - it would explain much of the erratic behavior and circumstances that have heretofore been looked at as suspicious. If you'll recall, her older male friend likes "girls that smoke" (so much that he named his record similarly), and from the IG pics it appears that she may have been a groupie of his music. So it follows that cannabis was likely consumed that night. If so, and if it was of the potent variety, and if it was coupled with moderate to heavy alcohol use, then she could have become significantly disoriented at any given point along her route to wherever she was going. She looks to be a rather petite female, so it wouldn't take too much excess substance-use to get her into this state. Add emotional turmoil to the mix from her ex and/or this man that night, and there you go.

In any case, I don't think it was murder or kidnapping or an overdose coverup. At least for now, that is, and with the information we have. The FBI becoming involved stoked those flames for a little while, but turned out to be a non-issue due to the ransom demands being fraudulent. The Sheriff's department then immediate resumed jurisdiction, and their narrative quickly shifted back to "we don't know anything" and "no foul play suspected".

Plus, I am convinced that those footprints were from a female's shoe (thanks to a fellow sleuth posting pictures of her own muddy shoes a couple of days ago), and as far as we know - and with the information we have - no other female is officially a part of this story. Most importantly, no other set of footprints exist at the scene that we have been told by LE, or that any reporter has seen for him or herself.

Sure, we can take all of this uncertainty and speculate with some pretty extravagant theories if we wanted to, but I choose to just follow the facts and probabilities for now.

All JMO, of course.

 

[Mahouston69]

I'm going with Occam's razor for now and say that she is likely somewhere near her truck/the orchard, and probably due to the immediate circumstances that she found herself in after driving off the road and getting stuck. If she was intoxicated - particularly if she was intoxicated from potent/laced cannabis - it would explain much of the erratic behavior and circumstances that have heretofore been looked at as suspicious. If you'll recall, her older male friend likes "girls that smoke" (so much that he named his record similarly), and from the IG pics it appears that she may have been a groupie of his music. So it follows that cannabis was likely consumed that night. If so, and if it was of the potent variety, and if it was coupled with moderate to heavy alcohol use, then she could have become significantly disoriented at any given point along her route to wherever she was going. She looks to be a rather petite female, so it wouldn't take too much excess substance-use to get her into this state. Add emotional turmoil to the mix from her ex and/or this man that night, and there you go.

In any case, I don't think it was murder or kidnapping or an overdose coverup. At least for now, that is, and with the information we have. The FBI becoming involved stoked those flames for a little while, but turned out to be a non-issue due to the ransom demands being fraudulent. The Sheriff's department then immediate resumed jurisdiction, and their narrative quickly shifted back to "we don't know anything" and "no foul play suspected".

Plus, I am convinced that those footprints were from a female's shoe (thanks to a fellow sleuth posting pictures of her own muddy shoes a couple of days ago), and as far as we know - and with the information we have - no other female is officially a part of this story. Most importantly, no other set of footprints exist at the scene that we have been told by LE, or that any reporter has seen for him or herself.

Sure, we can take all of this uncertainty and speculate with some pretty extravagant theories if we wanted to, but I choose to just follow the facts and probabilities for now.

All JMO, of course.

This all makes the most sense to me too...
then her phone pinging Sunday morning in YC...but reportedly not found until Monday,
bugs me.

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[ann1989]

Maybe she never met up at orchard maybe she met somewhere else. Maybe foul play was involved.. She was tossed. car was tossed. phone was forgotten about till le pinged.... crazy guys do force gfs to give them their phones.. but 751 no further use of phone Bothers me.. unless crazy ex He's bugging decided to leave phone off/ dead. He knew where she was she takes off from house nye follows her as attacks

 

[everybodhi]

I think you're on to something here. If it's a small town, a Walmart might be a huge attraction- maybe a primary grocery store?

The Yuba City Walmart is a 24 hour Superstore.
They have everything and they never close.

 

[almagata]

Article from the Sacramento Bee.

"Anyone with video or photos, including surveillance footage – from Butte House Road in Yuba City north to the Butte County line in Live Oak, between 9 p.m. March 30 and 2 a.m. March 31 – is asked to call the Sutter County Sheriff’s Office, 530-822-7307."

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article144311714.html#storylink=cpy
​

 

[everybodhi]

I'm going with Occam's razor for now and say that she is likely somewhere near her truck/the orchard, and probably due to the immediate circumstances that she found herself in after driving off the road and getting stuck. If she was intoxicated - particularly if she was intoxicated from potent/laced cannabis - it would explain much of the erratic behavior and circumstances that have heretofore been looked at as suspicious. If you'll recall, her older male friend likes "girls that smoke" (so much that he named his record similarly), and from the IG pics it appears that she may have been a groupie of his music. So it follows that cannabis was likely consumed that night. If so, and if it was of the potent variety, and if it was coupled with moderate to heavy alcohol use, then she could have become significantly disoriented at any given point along her route to wherever she was going. She looks to be a rather petite female, so it wouldn't take too much excess substance-use to get her into this state. Add emotional turmoil to the mix from her ex and/or this man that night, and there you go.

In any case, I don't think it was murder or kidnapping or an overdose coverup. At least for now, that is, and with the information we have. The FBI becoming involved stoked those flames for a little while, but turned out to be a non-issue due to the ransom demands being fraudulent. The Sheriff's department then immediate resumed jurisdiction, and their narrative quickly shifted back to "we don't know anything" and "no foul play suspected".

Plus, I am convinced that those footprints were from a female's shoe (thanks to a fellow sleuth posting pictures of her own muddy shoes a couple of days ago), and as far as we know - and with the information we have - no other female is officially a part of this story. Most importantly, no other set of footprints exist at the scene that we have been told by LE, or that any reporter has seen for him or herself.

Sure, we can take all of this uncertainty and speculate with some pretty extravagant theories if we wanted to, but I choose to just follow the facts and probabilities for now.

All JMO, of course.

No one is "officially" part of this story except Aly, not even a POI.
I can go with your Occam's razor explanation except for the phone being in Yuba City Sunday night and in Live Oak by her truck on Monday.
Best case scenario; it's all a well executed hoax set up by Aly with the help of her friends and they were so stoned they slipped up with the phone.