CA - Bakersfield 3: Disappearance of Baylee Despot and murders of James Kulstad & Micah Holsonbake

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  • #561
I thought that too, bc he could launder money they his business. Which could be why he owed James money

I could be wrong but somewhere in these posts I thought I saw someone ask if the chiropractor was the bookie and bakersfield3 said no... Please let me know if I am wrong... I can't remember how far back it was
 
  • #562
I could be wrong but somewhere in these posts I thought I saw someone ask if the chiropractor was the bookie and bakersfield3 said no... Please let me know if I am wrong... I can't remember how far back it was


Nevermind it said distributor sorry!
 
  • #563
Do we know if they were involved in the illegal gambling in Bakersfield. "bookie " makes me think of that or loan sharking and money laundering.
 
  • #564
I finally saw the FB video (Chadman debriefing) and I believe it’s Micah’s mom who mentions poker games. I got the feeling several of the group took part in them.

Does anyone have a guess as to who Micah wanted to put up in a hotel that night? Before, I had assumed it was a female and it had to do with either trafficking or violence - I am blown over by the number of people connected who have domestic violence/battery, etc in their pasts. Not sure if I am sticking to that initial assumption.

Do we have any sort of timeline as to when Baylee first began dating MQ? Her husband was reportedly abusive, so I’m curious if he’s been ruled out as a suspect/person of interest in her disappearance. Abusive men generally don’t react well to being left.

Poor Baylee. My heart just breaks more each and every day that I follow this. I can’t imagine what torture this is for Jane.
 
  • #565
My guess with the domestic violence and battery being so prevalent is that so many of these people are heavily into drugs.

I was thinking about this today- Micah's death/cover up of his death and James' death are so very, very different. To me this means that two different people committed these acts. We know that it appears that they are all related to the dealings within the same group. With 3 separate gun sellers, could there be enforcers within those sellers and then the overall enforcer is separate? James' death does not seem as planned to me. It was done on the street and feels more spur of the moment. While Micah's death would take more planning and time to do such an act and then remove all evidence. Dismembering also seems like something someone would do who had killed before. Or a Dexter fan? MOO
 
  • #566
I finally saw the FB video (Chadman debriefing) and I believe it’s Micah’s mom who mentions poker games. I got the feeling several of the group took part in them.

Does anyone have a guess as to who Micah wanted to put up in a hotel that night? Before, I had assumed it was a female and it had to do with either trafficking or violence - I am blown over by the number of people connected who have domestic violence/battery, etc in their pasts. Not sure if I am sticking to that initial assumption.

Do we have any sort of timeline as to when Baylee first began dating MQ? Her husband was reportedly abusive, so I’m curious if he’s been ruled out as a suspect/person of interest in her disappearance. Abusive men generally don’t react well to being left.

Poor Baylee. My heart just breaks more each and every day that I follow this. I can’t imagine what torture this is for Jane.
I was under the impression SH was the one at the hotel with Micah. MQ was married with kid(s) when he supposedly started dating Baylee, and Baylee lived at the house while his wife still lived there (super weird and not sure how that worked.... <modsnip>)
 
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  • #567
In 2016, she ran off to Las Vegas to marry her boyfriend, a year after she graduated high school. The relationship had always been rocky, and her mother thought they were breaking up before she got the news of the marriage. [bbm]

The marriage eventually ended and Baylee struggled to recover, her mother said.

“She wrecked her car, and then she lost her job,” Parrent said. “She was trying to get back on track and her life just spiraled out of control. And it went downhill from there.”

Her mother said she became involved with older men, eventually dating somebody else.
'Momma loves you': Bakersfield 3 mothers recall their last contact with children

I understand BPD was not yet divorced from estranged husband. Has he been cleared by investigators in her disappearance, and/or is he accounted for on the flow chart?
 
  • #568
In 2016, she ran off to Las Vegas to marry her boyfriend, a year after she graduated high school. The relationship had always been rocky, and her mother thought they were breaking up before she got the news of the marriage. [bbm]

The marriage eventually ended and Baylee struggled to recover, her mother said.

“She wrecked her car, and then she lost her job,” Parrent said. “She was trying to get back on track and her life just spiraled out of control. And it went downhill from there.”

Her mother said she became involved with older men, eventually dating somebody else.
'Momma loves you': Bakersfield 3 mothers recall their last contact with children

I understand BPD was not yet divorced from estranged husband. Has he been cleared by investigators in her disappearance, and/or is he accounted for on the flow chart?
In the debriefing w chadman interview Jane said he wasn’t involved
 
  • #569
Is there a confirmed sighting of BP elsewhere during the time of JK shooting? If not, and if shooter has not yet been identified, how can you be so sure who was in the car, willingly, and not so willingly?
 
  • #570
In the debriefing w chadman interview Jane said he wasn’t involved
I'm not sure who Chadman is, and is this interview any place other than FB? Thanks.
 
  • #571
I could be completely wrong here but I think MQ & SH are related
Is it a literal family member, mq said to unknown Baylee considered “mike” her family

I might be totally off here and I haven’t done a ton of research but is there a possible family link betweeen Q***n and H****s? I thought I saw they might be connected to someone with the last name St**r.
 
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  • #572
I'm not sure who Chadman is, and is this interview any place other than FB? Thanks.

I googled "chadman bakersfield3" and got a link to the video. Yes, it is on FB....only, I believe.
 
  • #573
Is there a confirmed sighting of BP elsewhere during the time of JK shooting? If not, and if shooter has not yet been identified, how can you be so sure who was in the car, willingly, and not so willingly?
Same thought I had
 
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Is RHS related to KS?

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I finally saw the FB video (Chadman debriefing) and I believe it’s Micah’s mom who mentions poker games. I got the feeling several of the group took part in them.

Does anyone have a guess as to who Micah wanted to put up in a hotel that night? Before, I had assumed it was a female and it had to do with either trafficking or violence - I am blown over by the number of people connected who have domestic violence/battery, etc in their pasts. Not sure if I am sticking to that initial assumption.

Do we have any sort of timeline as to when Baylee first began dating MQ? Her husband was reportedly abusive, so I’m curious if he’s been ruled out as a suspect/person of interest in her disappearance. Abusive men generally don’t react well to being left.

Poor Baylee. My heart just breaks more each and every day that I follow this. I can’t imagine what torture this is for Jane.

The last time Cheryl Holsonbake spoke to her son, she hung up on him.
Micah Holsonbake had called the morning of March 17, asking her to help him pay for a hotel room for an acquaintance. Cheryl didn’t have the money for the room and an argument ensued. [bbm] “He was upset at me that I didn’t care. It was kind of a manipulative anger,” Cheryl said. “And I wasn’t in the mood to go there, so I didn’t. So yeah. I’ve regretted it. I still wouldn’t have had the money to do it, but I still regret hanging up on him.”


'Momma loves you': Bakersfield 3 mothers recall their last contact with children

I've not seen the interview you reference (no fb), but I also get the impression that he was asking his mom to pay for a female acquaintance. Doesn't follow he'd be asking his mom to pay for a dude. MOO
 
  • #578
I googled "chadman bakersfield3" and got a link to the video. Yes, it is on FB....only, I believe.

It's also on the BK3 FB page and group page.
 
  • #579
The last time Cheryl Holsonbake spoke to her son, she hung up on him.
Micah Holsonbake had called the morning of March 17, asking her to help him pay for a hotel room for an acquaintance. Cheryl didn’t have the money for the room and an argument ensued. [bbm] “He was upset at me that I didn’t care. It was kind of a manipulative anger,” Cheryl said. “And I wasn’t in the mood to go there, so I didn’t. So yeah. I’ve regretted it. I still wouldn’t have had the money to do it, but I still regret hanging up on him.”


'Momma loves you': Bakersfield 3 mothers recall their last contact with children

I've not seen the interview you reference (no fb), but I also get the impression that he was asking his mom to pay for a female acquaintance. Doesn't follow he'd be asking his mom to pay for a dude. MOO

Female is correct.
 
  • #580
I could be completely wrong here but I think MQ & SH are related


I might be totally off here and I haven’t done a ton of research but is there a possible family link betweeen Q***n and H****s? I thought I saw they might be connected to someone with the last name St**r.

Yeah you might want to do more research.
 
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