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Amazing, I didn't know he was already in active research
It would mean he was way older than estimated, if it is Grover. Rather than 35-45, he'd be closer to eighty.Feb. 12, 2026 rbbm.
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Placer County seeks help in 1972 cold case homicide
Placer County investigators seek public help identifying a man burned alive in 1972, possibly Grover Benjamin Hughes, as genetic genealogy narrows leads.www.abc10.com
''Investigators say the unidentified man may now be closer to being identified as Grover Benjamin Hughes, born July 21, 1894, in Des Moines, Iowa. Hughes is known to have spent time in the San Francisco Bay Area before the 1960s.''
''The potential identification follows a two-year investigative genetic genealogy effort conducted by Ramapo College, with assistance from the California Department of Justice's Richmond Laboratory.
However, due to the distant genetic relationships and lack of close living descendants, the identity has not yet been confirmed through the DOJ Missing and Unidentified Persons Program.''
''The Cold Case team is requesting any information that could help confirm the man’s identity or shed light on the circumstances of his death. Specifically, investigators are seeking:
Anyone with information is encouraged to contact the Placer County Sheriff’s Office at 530-889-7853 or submit tips via email at [email protected].''
- Photographs or information about Grover Benjamin Hughes
- Knowledge of hospital or medical-facility bedding from Placer County in 1972, matching items shown in an attached image
- Information about any patients who went missing from hospitals, skilled nursing facilities, or convalescent homes around October 3, 1972
- Anyone who recalls Hughes or circumstances related to his disappearance or death
According to the Investigative Genetic Genealogy Center at Rampano College on reddit: "We have a pretty good timeline of his life through the 1950s and know of his descendants, but the sheriff’s office is seeking information from the later part of his life and surrounding his murder. We hope some locals from the area might know more!"Based on some quick Ancestry records searching, he has one grandchild who appears to be still alive. Given what they say in the article, maybe she's since passed away. I'm not seeing any records of him after the 1940s, though, which would track with being in a long-term care facility. Maybe he was injured during World War Two?
Edit: Never mind, she passed away in 2018.
According to the Investigative Genetic Genealogy Center at Rampano College on reddit: "We have a pretty good timeline of his life through the 1950s and know of his descendants, but the sheriff’s office is seeking information from the later part of his life and surrounding his murder. We hope some locals from the area might know more!"
This reminded me that everyone who cares about cold cases should know that genetic genealogists working on any "investigations" actually aren't able to use Ancestry.com records anymore for any genetic genealogy case work. Just as easy as the person above checked a record-that is how easy it used to be for genetic genealogists to access records. Now they are not allowed to use any of Ancestry.com's (or MyHeritage's) materials or products for research purposes for any law enforcement casework, and it has significantly slowed everything down. It includes everything including newspapers.com and Find a grave. No one is really talking about it because Ramapo College (The people who solved this case) had their accounts shut down so they have to do their case work with more effort...for no real reason or discussion.Based on some quick Ancestry records searching, he has one grandchild who appears to be still alive. Given what they say in the article, maybe she's since passed away. I'm not seeing any records of him after the 1940s, though, which would track with being in a long-term care facility. Maybe he was injured during World War Two?
Edit: Never mind, she passed away in 2018.
I heard about this. Absolute [advertiser censored]. I feel like people have no idea what genetic genealogy is actually used for.This reminded me that everyone who cares about cold cases should know that genetic genealogists working on any "investigations" actually aren't able to use Ancestry.com records anymore for any genetic genealogy case work. Just as easy as the person above checked a record-that is how easy it used to be for genetic genealogists to access records. Now they are not allowed to use any of Ancestry.com's (or MyHeritage's) materials or products for research purposes for any law enforcement casework, and it has significantly slowed everything down. It includes everything including newspapers.com and Find a grave. No one is really talking about it because Ramapo College (The people who solved this case) had their accounts shut down so they have to do their case work with more effort...for no real reason or discussion.
My mum's hair is as much silver now, but is still red, if not the bright red of her youth. She'll be 74 this year, and she's never dyed it.It's interesting with that possible match of interest and the description given. Would a man in his 70s-80s still be described has having red/auburn hair?
That is why I wrote his description from his WWI record. Could it be a mixture of red and brown depending on the genetic make-up? Thank you for responding.My mum's hair is as much silver now, but is still red, if not the bright red of her youth. She'll be 74 this year, and she's never dyed it.
Id be interested to find out who claimed his ss, and where from. His brother died after him, and yet there seems to be no mention from his brother in any obituaries. I do not currently have a newspapers.com sub , if anyone does it would be handy. I do however have worldwide ancestry. Is it you sweetie, who has built a family tree for him?Thank you Laura. I agree that it happened later on in life. His second wife was in 1940 census Minneapolis Hennepin, MN married State Hospital. 1950 Rochester State Hospital Olmsted, MN-married. Grover was in Minnesota in the 1940 census as a lodger and married. He was working. Based on some deep diving research he disappears after 1945 in California when he was listed in a newspaper article when his father died. His second wife was Marie E. Christianson. Some Swedish background if that helps. His daughter was Helen Maxine Hughes-b.1918 d. 1968 (article with her death is in Newspapers.com.) I cannot find her in the 1940 census, this is why: 1936-married George Harris Fairall -1st husband, 2nd marriage Vatick-no first name married 1938. Third marriage was in 1941 in Nevada, this is where the information is private on Ancestry. Lucile was born 12-Aug-1918 in South Dakota, while Helen 11-Aug-1918. Twins? Can Helen be born close to midnight on the 11th and then Lucile on the 12th as a twin? No information on her but she has the same parents as Helen according to South Dakota Birth Index.
Some family clues: brother was in Long Beach California in the 1950 census. There are state and rehab's in this area at this time. Again, this brother is listed when their mother dies in 1959, but not Grover. Could something have happened at this time as Laura above suggested? 1945-1959.
Helen was in San Francisco where two of her children were born with her third husband Where is Lucile? If Grover was in an accident and in a coma at that time I don't think they needed ID. A John Doe?
I know this is long, but after posting without documentation, I added more information with sources. All of this is public records.