CA CA - Bob Harrod, 81, Orange County, 27 July 2009 - # 4

[believe09]

not to put too fine a point on it-when the phone was shut off, the number could not be transferred to Fontelle which was likely her first choice. Fortunately, she was able to have a recording placed that gave a redirect. In case Bob or someone calling on his behalf tried to re-establish a connection.

 

[suzyq211]

not to put too fine a point on it-when the phone was shut off, the number could not be transferred to Fontelle which was likely her first choice. Fortunately, she was able to have a recording placed that gave a redirect. In case Bob or someone calling on his behalf tried to re-establish a connection.

So in other words, Fontelle put Robert Harrod and his needs first, whereas the others acted in a controlling and spiteful manner. Hmmmm....

 

[believe09]

I know this is a tough case for everyone. You almost have to believe that Bob Harrod was what his daughters depicted him as and thereby not worthy of being found, or that he was not as depicted and the behavior of his immediate family is very curious. To put it mildly.

I think if we accept the premise that Bob is the victim here and the rest are collateral damage, it makes the process, imo, clearer. If we are committed to Bob being restored to those who love him, then the no stone unturned approach is the correct one. So, with a narrowed list of those who maybe responsible, it is appropriate to look at those who he surrounded himself with and who have not been cleared.

At the end of the day, the truth is the truth. It doesnt change. As they say on CSI-let the evidence speak for itself. After all, it is what it is.

 

[suzyq211]

I know this is a tough case for everyone. You almost have to believe that Bob Harrod was what his daughters depicted him as and thereby not worthy of being found, or that he was not as depicted and the behavior of his immediate family is very curious. To put it mildly.
<respectfully snipped> and BBM


I agree, and I choose to go with my gut. No family is perfect, and no 81 year old man deserves what I feel happened to Mr. Harrod. It makes me SICK.

 

[dreamweaver]

I know this is a tough case for everyone. You almost have to believe that Bob Harrod was what his daughters depicted him as and thereby not worthy of being found, or that he was not as depicted and the behavior of his immediate family is very curious. To put it mildly.

I think if we accept the premise that Bob is the victim here and the rest are collateral damage, it makes the process, imo, clearer. If we are committed to Bob being restored to those who love him, then the no stone unturned approach is the correct one. So, with a narrowed list of those who maybe responsible, it is appropriate to look at those who he surrounded himself with and who have not been cleared.

At the end of the day, the truth is the truth. It doesnt change. As they say on CSI-let the evidence speak for itself. After all, it is what it is.

I have to agree that this is a tough case for everyone.
For months, I felt the daughter's postings about their dad came from a mixture of love and exasperation.
i.e., they loved him, but he drove them a little crazy...
a push pull relationship....

As the last few months have unfolded with proof coming from a verified source, it has saddened me to think the daughter's may have covered up
the crime.
It has angered me that they may have had a hand in their dad's death.

But, it has made me realize I am not alone in having the wool pulled over my eyes as well.
You would think after a lifetime in social services, I would have that 'instinct'
to sniff out the lies, the cover up. I guess anyone can be fooled at any time. But not forever......

All I can think of is in Aug. 2009, I put myself in their shoes and
I looked at Robert Harrod missing and saw my dad missing and what would I feel or do. The daughter(s) left alone.....
But then I came to realize
is that I would have been the first one to organize the searches, put up the posters, raise the reward money, set up the FB page, put up a web page,
make friends with the police and the media, question all the neighbors,
be friendly with the new wife, all
to bring my dad home.

As believe said, 'it is what it is.'

 

[suzyq211]

I have to agree that this is a tough case for everyone.
For months, I felt the daughter's postings about their dad came from a mixture of love and exasperation.
i.e., they loved him, but he drove them a little crazy...
a push pull relationship....

As the last few months have unfolded with proof coming from a verified source, it has saddened me to think the daughter's may have covered up
the crime.
It has angered me that they may have had a hand in their dad's death.

But, it has made me realize I am not alone in having the wool pulled over my eyes as well.
You would think after a lifetime in social services, I would have that 'instinct'
to sniff out the lies, the cover up. I guess anyone can be fooled at any time. But not forever......

All I can think of is in Aug. 2009, I put myself in their shoes and
I looked at Robert Harrod missing and saw my dad missing and what would I feel or do. The daughter(s) left alone.....
But then I came to realize
is that I would have been the first one to organize the searches, put up the posters, raise the reward money, set up the FB page, put up a web page,
make friends with the police and the media, question all the neighbors,
be friendly with the new wife, all
to bring my dad home.

As believe said, 'it is what it is.'

Dreamweaver...well said.

 

[Montjoy]

Not trying to make anyone cry here:

“Your call was an answer to my prayer. I have been thinking of you everyday lately & many times over the years and regretting leaving you under the conditions at the time."

"I always wondered how to get in touch with you because you were my &#64257;rst love and always will be, nothing can change that. This last year has been very difficult for me, you will never know how many times I have thought of you.”

-- Bob, writing to Fontelle

www.gulf-times.com/mritems/streams/2010/2/14/2_342915_1_255.pdf

 

[Cubby]

Montjoy, that didn't make me cry, but for some reason reminded me of the lyrics of the old song Soldier Boy by the Shirelles. (Oh did I love this song as a young girl).

Soldier boy
Oh, my little soldier boy
I'll be true to you

You were my first love
And you'll be my last love
I will never make you blue
I'll be true to you

It's bittersweet...., first love and last love and going through so much to continue to stand by him. It should have never ended like this, but as was pp, it is what it is..... and there is no turning back the clock. I could only hope if I ever went missing while married my spouse would stand by me through thick and thin. Of course I know I could always count on you fabulous WS'rs too.....

We'll press on and keep pressing on for answers for Bob.

 

[believe09]

((hugs)) dream. I think what you did was magnificent, fwiw.

The quotes were beautiful Monjoy and Cubby-and I so get where you are coming from suzy.

That being said, lets see what we can do to continue to keep Bob out there, to continue to probe, to continue to question and compare information as public records surface.

 

[cleo612]

It makes me sad, and quite angry, to be honest, that we here at WS seem to be the only people concerned with finding out what happened to Bob. I understand that Fontelle is elderly and is likely not in any physical condition to be out searching for him, so I give her a pass. I know that she wants to know the truth about what happened to her new husband.

I do not, however, give that same pass to the daughters.

Bob presumably raised them, loved them, looked after their needs, cared for them. Even after they were married and out on their own, from all accounts, it appears that he continued to offer financial support to them.

The daughters are internet savvy, most likely are physically able to get around, and have shown abilities to put their thoughts into words (unkind though they might be).

Why are these daughters not out putting up posters, making calls, following through on the Facebook pages? Why are they not making any effort to raise awareness of their father's disappearance? Why are they not offering any kind of reward for information about what happened to their father?

Silence, inaction, and nasty grumbling are all that I have seen from any of them.

Actions speak louder than words, and in Bob's case it makes me feel almost certain that where there is inaction and silence, therein also lie guilty consciences.

Maybe they think that the less noise they make, the less likely they will be looked at as having had a hand in Bob's disappearance.

They better think again.

 

[believe09]

Cleo, at the end of the day the posting behavior has completely puzzled me, as well as the lack of reward et al. Wonder how their PI is doing?

 

[cloudajo]

Cleo, at the end of the day the posting behavior has completely puzzled me, as well as the lack of reward et al. Wonder how their PI is doing?

In Jan 2010, the PI was "digging" according to daughter J. According to daughter R in Aug 2010, their PI was respectfully conducting a throrough investigation in total cooperation with the police with only general milestones being reported back to them. And that due to accusations against their family, the daughters respected their investigator's need to keep information shared with him confidential.

So if you believe that, they paid a PI for his services, but he didn't share the results of his findings with them (just "general milestones").

 

[Fairy1]

In Jan 2010, the PI was "digging" according to daughter J. According to daughter R in Aug 2010, their PI was respectfully conducting a throrough investigation in total cooperation with the police with only general milestones being reported back to them. And that due to accusations against their family, the daughters respected their investigator's need to keep information shared with him confidential.

So if you believe that, they paid a PI for his services, but he didn't share the results of his findings with them (just "general milestones").

That sounds like a load of BS. And what, exactly, would be considered a "general milestone" under these circumstances?

 

[Fairy1]

I have to agree that this is a tough case for everyone.
For months, I felt the daughter's postings about their dad came from a mixture of love and exasperation.
i.e., they loved him, but he drove them a little crazy...
a push pull relationship....

As the last few months have unfolded with proof coming from a verified source, it has saddened me to think the daughter's may have covered up
the crime.
It has angered me that they may have had a hand in their dad's death.

But, it has made me realize I am not alone in having the wool pulled over my eyes as well.
You would think after a lifetime in social services, I would have that 'instinct'
to sniff out the lies, the cover up. I guess anyone can be fooled at any time. But not forever......

All I can think of is in Aug. 2009, I put myself in their shoes and
I looked at Robert Harrod missing and saw my dad missing and what would I feel or do. The daughter(s) left alone.....
But then I came to realize
is that I would have been the first one to organize the searches, put up the posters, raise the reward money, set up the FB page, put up a web page,
make friends with the police and the media, question all the neighbors,
be friendly with the new wife, all
to bring my dad home.

As believe said, 'it is what it is.'

Thank you, dreamweaver. Me too, me too, me too.

 

[cloudajo]

That sounds like a load of BS. And what, exactly, would be considered a "general milestone" under these circumstances?

Maybe something like this? Example only.

XYZ Private Investigators
Invoice for Services

Phase I
Review Complete
Analysis Complete
Missing Person Data Sheet Complete

Phase II
Witness Interviews Complete
Interaction with Local Community, Media and Law Enforcement Complete
Search for Evidence Complete

Total Amount Due: $50,000

 

[Fairy1]

Maybe something like this? Example only.

XYZ Private Investigators
Invoice for Services

Phase I
Review Complete
Analysis Complete
Missing Person Data Sheet Complete

Phase II
Witness Interviews Complete
Interaction with Local Community, Media and Law Enforcement Complete
Search for Evidence Complete

Total Amount Due: $50,000

I wouldn't pay ONE red cent for this! I'm thinking, along the way, the PI discovered he was working for the most likely suspects. I doubt very much he's still around...

 

[Cubby]

I wouldn't pay ONE red cent for this! I'm thinking, along the way, the PI discovered he was working for the most likely suspects. I doubt very much he's still around...

Bingo! Going back to the reporting of "general milestones" only tells me the PI wasn't able to dig up the dirt Bobs daughters were hoping for... and I am going to guess that dirt wasn't to find facts on the case but rather to try and fit their square pegged theory(ies) into a round hole. The info about general milestones suited their need to not admit they were wrong.... and continue to give the impression they were actively seeking answers on their fathers disappearance.

JMO of course.

 

[Fairy1]

Bingo! Going back to the reporting of "general milestones" only tells me the PI wasn't able to dig up the dirt Bobs daughters were hoping for... and I am going to guess that dirt wasn't to find facts on the case but rather to try and fit their square pegged theory(ies) into a round hole. The above sentence suited their need to not admit they were wrong.... and continue to give the impression they were actively seeking answers on their fathers disappearance.

JMO of course.

I'm thinking the "dirt" the PI found was on the folks that hired him. I assume a PI, under those circumstances, would remove himself/herself from the entire case. What else could you do?

 

[Angelo]

It makes me sad, and quite angry, to be honest, that we here at WS seem to be the only people concerned with finding out what happened to Bob. I understand that Fontelle is elderly and is likely not in any physical condition to be out searching for him, so I give her a pass. I know that she wants to know the truth about what happened to her new husband.

I do not, however, give that same pass to the daughters.

Bob presumably raised them, loved them, looked after their needs, cared for them. Even after they were married and out on their own, from all accounts, it appears that he continued to offer financial support to them.

The daughters are internet savvy, most likely are physically able to get around, and have shown abilities to put their thoughts into words (unkind though they might be).

Why are these daughters not out putting up posters, making calls, following through on the Facebook pages? Why are they not making any effort to raise awareness of their father's disappearance? Why are they not offering any kind of reward for information about what happened to their father?

Silence, inaction, and nasty grumbling are all that I have seen from any of them.

Actions speak louder than words, and in Bob's case it makes me feel almost certain that where there is inaction and silence, therein also lie guilty consciences.

Maybe they think that the less noise they make, the less likely they will be looked at as having had a hand in Bob's disappearance.

They better think again.

Cleo, great post. Actions do speak lounder than words and the actions of Mr. Harrod's three daughters as well as Jeff and Andrew are appalling.

Besides daughter J's &#8220;We&#8217;re thinking maybe 1, noon?&#8221; interview on July 28, 2009 I have not seen any of them in the media asking the public for assistance in finding Mr. Harrod.

Jeff, the last individual to see Mr. Harrod on July 27 has never publically spoken out and asked for help with a search and/or posting fliers. Jeff could help clarify that ever-changing timeline but he has not.

Andrew, the grandson, lived right around the corner from Mr. Harrod. It appears from documents we have attained that Mr. Harrod helped him with the purchase of his home, yet we have never heard from him. I wonder if Andrew ever went out and posted fliers for his missing grandfather. I wonder what Andrew told his children about their missing Great-Grandfather

As for the daughters ("I saved the best for last"), from what I can see they have devoted the majority of their time to gaining control of the trust, trashing the character of their missing father, trashing the character of Fontelle, and trashing the character of the hairdresser. They did the trashing on a public internet forum.
They have never asked for help in searching for their father or help in posting fliers. Some have refused to speak to reporters for articles written about Mr. Harrod.

They were hoping this story would just fade away. IMO, they thought Fontelle would quickly return to Missouri and they could just move on with their lives.

Yes, they better think again.

 

[SuziQ]

Too many elderly are being taken advantage of by too many who feel entitled. God bless those who become victims of this horrible thought process.