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in the car, five foot two.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Seventy one pounds.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
That's why I wanted you to break down. Oh, that's possible,
because there's got to be an explanation for.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Losing There is, there is, And let me kind of
explain this to you and just brace yourself for what
I'm about to say. All right, let's go to height.
The height there they are measuring this body. And the
way we make as bodies in the morgue is from
heel to crown. So from the heel to the top
of the head. All right, that's how bodies are measured. Now,
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what do we know about her or what do we
know about these remains? Well, it's pretty obvious they have
they've been dismembered. Is it possible to lose an inch
of height during that Yes, it is, because we don't
know that you have all of the components. Let's just say,
let's just say that a quarter of an inch of
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bone drops out when you're sawing through the bone. It
becomes bone dust, and you're having to do this multiple times.
It's not beyond it's not beyond understanding that you know
you would lose overall length or height of a body.
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That's pretty reasonable. But how do you get from one
hundred plus pounds down to double digits. Well, here's
how it happens. They've she's been deceased for a while.
She has literally been cooking in that car or wherever
other locations she may have been prior to being placed
in the car. Part of her remains at this After
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this amount of time, with this much heat exposed to her,
the body will take on a liquid quality, all right,
and you're going to lose some of that weight. So
if it's contained in a bag, you'll lose a lot
of the body that has been reduced down. You've also
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got dehydration of the tissues. Remember, a lot of the
weight that we carry in life is in fact water.
Weight and in death too. And just think about the
ultimate dehydrator. Can you imagine being in a trunk in
LA during the summertime, just even if you were in
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that in that location, living inside of a trunk, you're
a living person placed inside the trunk in the direct sunlight.
You're gonna lose maybe a couple of pounds just
in waterweight because you're gonna sweat it out. It's gonna
be like being in asauna. How much more so where
you've got constant exposure and decompositional breakdown. The cells are
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all collapsing now and they become liquefied to a certain extent,
You'll still have some tissue that remains behind. And this
is one of the huge things here that I think
is very important. With who is now positively identified as
Celeste Revas, they have ruled her death, her manner of
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death as a high homicide, but they still have yet
to come up with a cause. Well, one of the
reasons they don't have a cause, I think at this
point is that there's been so many tissue changes within
her that let's just say she's choked out, all right.
That it's a very personal thing where somebody's wrapped their
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hands around her throat, and then you give you give
credence to this post mortem manipulation of the body those
dependent upon And I have no knowledge of this. I'm
just throwing this scenario out there. Let's just say you
go to dismember the body and one of the things
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that I have yet to have a dismemberment case that
I've even either covered or worked where they didn't go
for the head first. That's generally how it works, all right.
So if you're removing a head, that means that somewhere
along the neck you're going to have to go into
that area with an instrument to separate it from the body. Well,
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because you're doing that, any kind of artifact that's in
the neck, particularly when it's a long term decomposition, can
compromise the presentation. You can't really in or rule out anything.
The reason they're coming up with homicide as a manner, Dave,
is that the question I think that you have to
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ask philosophically is who in the world dismembers the thirteen
or well, we don't know she would be fifteen. Who
in the world would dismember her? And you said they're
going to rule this as a homicide, you know, but
do we actually have evidence of specific homicidal trauma right now?
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The LA County Corner has not released any of that.
I'm hoping that they will. I can tell you this
when they finally removed those remains from that trunk, Dave,
and I'm imagining the body. I'm imagining that they would
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have taken out each individual this member remain, like whether
it's a foot, a lower leg, upper leg, head, and
they're going to x ray each one of those. And
this is a messy, messy affair, by the way, this
is not a standard kind of event, because you're dealing
with tissue that's so degraded that it's got a real
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kind of oily, greasy feel to it. It's no longer
in this kind of firm state that you have with
with fresh remains, And so they would x ray every
single thing. Why would they x ray every single thing? Because, dude,
you cannot just simply look at the tissue and say, aha,
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this is what brought about death. You've got to look
internally in this horrible mass that's left behind with an
X ray to see, is there a bullet track? Do
I have a lead storm, you know, which we'll see
many times if somebody's shot, you'll see this kind of
lead storm where the round particulates inside the body and
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you can follow a trail. Are there any broken bones
in here that are not associated with the act of dismemberment?
You know, I want to know if she's had her
ribs broken or and we can delineate that. And the
more you say, well, how do you know that that
wasn't as a result of of dismemberment, Well, there are
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ways that you can actually examine the bone and tell
if at a microscopic level, you can actually tell if
this is if this is something that was in the
anti mortem or perry mortem state while she's dying, as
opposed to ya, he broke broke a rib while he was,
you know, trying to figure out how to use the
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saws all or the skill saw or the hacksaw or
the limbsaw or whatever it was.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
That he used.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Now, wow, that's a lot to unpack.
<p>On Sept. 8, the Los Angeles Police Department was called to a tow yard in Hollywood over reports of a foul odor coming from a vehicle. The LAPD found decomposing, dismembered, human remains, wrapped in a bag hidden in the front trunk area of a tesla registered in Hempstead, Texas, to...
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