Sorry Sandsage but if you read on in my post my point clearly wasn't specifically the holiday weekend in itself...that was just the opening point. Yes it goes without saying. To put it more bluntly, I hadn't read it pointed out about how all kinds 'inner city' people crawl out of the city that one wouldn't want to meet at a campground, drunk and all... gang types, etc. Especially being that Castaic is THE closest lake that offers outdoor recreation to the north, or is the most accessible. Plus it's near Magic Mountain, and that place in itself draws that crowd, so it's a natural on a weekend like that. THAT was my point. I have run into types like that at other campgrounds as a teenager, innocently while with friends and almost ran into a menacing situation without even engaging in anything 'rowdy' at all. It is very enhanced being near LA or OC. I didn't want to be that blunt, but if I must...
This is an overgeneralization for sure, but for people in the depths of LA/OC, a place like LA could be a major getaway... while for people who get away regularly, 2-4+ hours is way more like it, to getaway from all that; places that will be a 'zoo' and not with typical outdoor types. There is just that wave effect, and possible 'run ins' with people out and about, that was my point. I combed the first thread, all 40 pages and I did NOT see this pointed out or anywhere near close... I have also seen many other things repeated that surely were more obvious, so go facepalm them please. Me, I just skip over those kinds of post with patience and non-judgement.
I mean this with genuine respect: you can have your facepalm, I will not accept it.
