CA CA - Bryce Laspisa, 19, Castaic, 30 Aug 2013 - #3

[timothymyers02]

I just read about the Linnea Lomax case and she was found two and 1/2 months after her disappearance in an area relatively close to where she disappeared, dead by her own hand most likely on the same day of the disappearance. The area had been "searched" previously. In the two and 1/2 months there were various "sightings" of Linnea Lomax up and down California.

Having just moved from the SCV to South Orange County I feel a strong connection to this case. Most City folk don't realize how vast and brushy even the borderlands of the wilderness areas are and there could still be many things later found in an area previously "searched." Also, not to sound grisly but nature exists in that area and nature has its own way of quickly disposing of decomposing biological matter; the reason why so many folks that are lost in wilderness areas are never found.

 

[Trackergd]

Good question - I don't know but maybe someone who knows about this type of thing will answer soon.

There is a depth (I forget how deep) that any deeper would require decompression stops and is much more hazardous to divers. Anything deeper would require cameras or expensive ROV's.

 

[lillygator]

so no blood in the vehicle?
what has been found on his computer?

 

[Trackergd]

I hope that "Yellow Camaro" comes back with some additional details.

 

[BluePoppy]

I caught up this morning, reading the posts and the helpful answers from dragracerz among others. What struck me this time was the mention that blood was found outside the vehicle. For some reason that set off my spidey-sense. I skimmed the posts again and can't find that at the moment to quote it, but I read it here this morning, and it made me go "hmmmm." IMO, makes another scenario possible, that being that another person or was there, helped Bryce as he got out of the vehicle, and led him away (struggled?) before Bryce could retrieve any personal belongings. All this from "blood found outside the vehicle." Sad sigh here... still envisioning Bryce is okay, dazed, walking... ((Hugs to all of his family)).

http://www.placerherald.com/article/family-continues-search-sierra-college-student
"The Laspisas were told the back window of the vehicle had been broken, and blood had been found on the ground. Bryce Laspisa’s wallet, cellphone and laptop remained in the vehicle."

RSBM

Found the statement about blood on the ground - it was post #494,
RSBM
Until I found that again, I thought I might be hallucinating!
Just something about that pings for me.... IMO....

Great sleuthing!!!! It's been asked many times if there was blood outside the vehicle & this is the first I've seen/heard that. There was blood inside that they are supposed to be DNA testing. But this opens up a whole new round of questions & hypotheses. Assuming this isn't errant reporting that is.

 

[BluePoppy]

so no blood in the vehicle?
what has been found on his computer?

Pretty sure there is still blood in the vehicle that they are doing DNA testing on. Unless they collected the blood outside the vehicle. Or the "outside the vehicle" blood is actually on the exterior of the vehicle.

 

[cluciano63]

I don't see Bryce being harmed or abducted, without some theft taking place. Most people who would do either would also grab a laptop, phone and even a wallet to check later. I really think foul play is unlikely. JMO

 

[Trackergd]

Found the statement about blood on the ground - it was post #494, I don't know how to quote and bold the part :/ but here goes... This is from the quoted Placerville Herald interview with Karen, describing the situation, thus:
BBM
Until I found that again, I thought I might be hallucinating!
Just something about that pings for me.... IMO....

That all leads me in the direction of him being injured and wandering off in a confused state looking for help. The dogs confirming the scent seems to nail this for me, "if" the reporting was accurate.

 

[Quester]

RSBM

Great sleuthing!!!! It's been asked many times if there was blood outside the vehicle & this is the first I've seen/heard that. There was blood inside that they are supposed to be DNA testing. But this opens up a whole new round of questions & hypotheses. Assuming this isn't errant reporting that is.

Since it has been stated, with words to the effect of, there was a small amount of blood and that that sounded worse than it was ...

I wonder if the "blood on the ground" was the only blood that was found?? In other words, no blood in the vehicle??

 

[ShannonS]

I don't see Bryce being harmed or abducted, without some theft taking place. Most people who would do either would also grab a laptop, phone and even a wallet to check later. I really think foul play is unlikely. JMO

but remember there was another car coming which the "perps" might have seen. would they risk breaking into the car that just crashed, searching for the goods in the dark with someone approaching? i wouldn't but i'm not a perp haha

 

[2Hope4]

Have cadaver dogs been brought in as well? Or just the initial tracking dogs?

 

[cluciano63]

but remember there was another car coming which the "perps" might have seen. would they risk breaking into the car that just crashed, searching for the goods in the dark with someone approaching? i wouldn't but i'm not a perp haha

Well if they taking away a large, possibly injured man...who is going to notice a grab for a phone...

 

[Ghostwheel]

I don't see Bryce being harmed or abducted, without some theft taking place. Most people who would do either would also grab a laptop, phone and even a wallet to check later. I really think foul play is unlikely. JMO

What about foul play after the fact? Suppose he was in the accident, got out of the car, started walking trying to get back to civilization (or even made it back) and crime of opportunity happened? He was dazed and easy pickings. Not as likely as some other theories, sure. But I cannot rule that one completely out.

I keep remembering this poor woman way back when there was no internet who was kidnapped, raped, then turned loose at some location(I even want to say it was at the base of the steps of a police station), and some scumball picked her up saying he'd help her because she was dazed and she was attacked again. I'm going to find her name one day...

 

[kevsrebla]

Since it has been stated, with words to the effect of, there was a small amount of blood and that that sounded worse than it was ...

I wonder if the "blood on the ground" was the only blood that was found?? In other words, no blood in the vehicle??

I would have no idea where to find the post, it was several days ago. The blood outside the vehicle was road kill. Very small amount inside the vehicle which they have not released results on yet.

 

[BluePoppy]

For those theorizing that Bryce intended to disappear & left his wallet, cell & laptop on purpose, let me throw this out there to you.

I had a nasty crash into the center divide of a freeway many years go. Just my car. My very first thought was that I had to get out of the vehicle & as far away as I could in case it caught fire / blew up. I didn't get my purse or anything. There were no cell phones in those days. And now that I think about it, I was Bryces age. I had just turned 20 a couple weeks before.

Here's the critical point: After getting out & getting away on adrenalin, I completely passed out & stopped breathing. I did not even have a head injury. I was lucky that I was in the middle of a lot of traffic & didn't have anywhere to run but down the freeway. A passing nurse revived me. I remember nothing to this day from the point after getting out of the car until waking up in the ER after I don't even know how long. I went home a couple hours later with nothing more than a sore neck & back.

If this accident had happened where Bryce's did, I most certainly would have been God knows where in the wilderness from running in fear & adrenalin & passed out.

Why I didn't think of all this a long time ago in relation to Bryce's accident, I don't know. But it surely shows this is very possible.

 

[Jillybean78]

I would have no idea where to find the post, it was several days ago. The blood outside the vehicle was road kill. Very small amount inside the vehicle which they have not released results on yet.

That's what I was thinking too. There was a large spot of blood in the street(I-5 I believe or one of the main roads). Someone kept saying to check it out and I believe this is what they dismissed as Bryce's blood. It must have been roadkill. From any interview or article that I've seen, it has only mentioned there being a very tiny amount of blood in his vehicle, and this is what is being tested for DNA.

 

[Quester]

I would have no idea where to find the post, it was several days ago. The blood outside the vehicle was road kill. Very small amount inside the vehicle which they have not released results on yet.

I believe the road kill was in another area but who knows?

Here is the latest, as reported in the Placerville Herald:

... The Laspisas were told the back window of the vehicle had been broken,
and blood had been found on the ground. ...

http://www.placerherald.com/article/family-continues-search-sierra-college-student
​

 

[kmw461]

I believe the road kill was in another area but who knows?

Here is the latest, as reported in the Placerville Herald:

... The Laspisas were told the back window of the vehicle had been broken,
and blood had been found on the ground. ...

http://www.placerherald.com/article/family-continues-search-sierra-college-student
​

This is the same article that says the search has been called off, that Dad (not Mom) spoke with Bryce at 2 a.m., that Mom & Dad told him to pull over and rest. I'm taking everything in that article with a huge grain of salt.

 

[Quester]

This is the same article that says the search has been called off, that Dad (not Mom) spoke with Bryce at 2 a.m., that Mom & Dad told him to pull over and rest. I'm taking everything in that article with a huge grain of salt.

Agreed!

 

[BluePoppy]

That's what I was thinking too. There was a large spot of blood in the street(I-5 I believe or one of the main roads). Someone kept saying to check it out and I believe this is what they dismissed as Bryce's blood. It must have been roadkill. From any interview or article that I've seen, it has only mentioned there being a very tiny amount of blood in his vehicle, and this is what is being tested for DNA.

Pretty sure the blood in the road / roadkill is completely unrelated to anything. It came as a "tip" on the FB group & was on Lake Hughes Rd a decent ways from the vehicle & was said to have shown up after Sat - more than a day after the accident.