CA CA - Bryce Laspisa, 19, Castaic, 30 Aug 2013 - #6

[SCV_EagleJ]

No.... - LE Speculation

But it is confirmed that his car entered the park twice. 2:08 and again at 4:19. Correct?

 

[dragracerz]

I believe there were 2 sets of bloodhounds. (3 dog searches total) Dragracerz is saying they are throwing out the initial SAR dogs because they are based on person scent. (?) Those dogs went straight down Main Ramp Rd to Governement Cove Rd to the water.

The first bloodhounds (based on shoes/socks sent from his apt) went along the water from the accident point to somewhere before the actual boat ramp & traveled up to the dam and (I'm pretty positive) stopped somewhere on the dam. There was a comment from Dragracerz that it was possible he doubled back. The 2nd set of bloodhounds went completely across the dam (as Dragracerz eluded to a page or 2 back) and then towards the lagoon exiting the park and the scent lost on Castaic Lake Dr just south of the main entrance to the Lagoon Recreation Area (per Dragracerz map on pg 9)

There were 3 dog searches:

1. SAR dogs went to lake ruled that they followed scent, not Bryces

2. Bloodhounds - used shoes and socks that were carefully collected as instructed by LE by Bryces girlfriend, and were sent overnight viaFedEx
Bloodhounds traced Bryce from car, to over dam, south towards exiting park. See pic I previously posted

3. Private cadaver dog - no results

 

[Quester]

@ dragracerz

Wild hair question ... was there any evidence of gun shot in the vehicle? Possibly from the driver's window toward the passenger door?

[Sorry for posing this question.]

 

[dragracerz]

When did his probation (in Illinois from previous run in with police) end? Is it possible he was still on probation and perhaps he was still required to check in for drug testing? Maybe he knew he wasn't going to pass (because of pill(s) he took) and instead of going forth and not passing the test, he concocted this elaborate plan to crash his vehicle and "disappear"? Maybe he spent the 2 hours looking for the perfect spot? Drove off the cliff on purpose, walked away, to where the dogs lost his scent and got in a waiting vehicle?

Ended in July

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Apparently the camera only focuses on the license plates but they are pretty certain it was BL driving because of the blood in the car.

I agree. He could not have been far but I believe they didn't start searching until after they spoke with KL to confirm the car wasn't stolen. I think that was around 8-8:30

Gotcha! Thanks for being patient with me!
Now I'll read to catch up because I'm starting to read backwards - not good!

 

[dragracerz]

Bryces car is seen entering the park at 4:20, car is found by worker coming in to work at approx. just before 5:30. Sheriffs were also coming in to do an exercise and were notified immediately, approx. 5:30
It was 8:00 when CHP notified Bryces parents that the car was found

The accident happened between 4:20 and 5:30, my guess would be shortly after 4:20

 

[Quester]

Here are pics of the vehicle.
Note: Windshield not broken
paint on tires match paint on road



Hopefully this will confirm to everyone that car went down the hill and was found on road

It's early here ... but I think I need a drink. :drink:

That SUV looks silver to me ... not tan, beige or gold. JMO

Are we sure that's BL's SUV?

 

[ShannonS]

I believe he may have been picked up too. At least that possibility offers hope he ran away so-to-speak. If he crashed at 4:30 a.m. (video shows car at 4:20), that's still a tight window for him to get away. Unless the person was waiting right there and Bryce wasn't even in the Toyota when it crashed.

Can't explain the blood though because wouldn't he take what he wanted out of the car before sending it down?
Is it possilbe the vehicle crashed via some kind of fishtail accident? Or are they certain it rolled?

the blood found could have been in the car for any amount of time i would think. small drops don't indicate to me anything related to flying down a hillside, off a small cliff and crashing onto a road.

 

[dragracerz]

@ dragracerz

Wild hair question ... was there any evidence of gun shot in the vehicle? Possibly from the driver's window toward the passenger door?

[Sorry for posing this question.]

No.

There were approx. 14 drops of blood in the car, some so small forensics had to mark on the leather seat with an arrow to show them.
VERY SMALL amount of blood

Blood was confirmed to be Bryces via DNA

 

[SDHELPS]

It's early here ... but I think I need a drink. :drink:

That SUV looks silver to me ... not tan, beige or gold. JMO

Are we sure that's BL's SUV?

Quester I have what they call a Champagne Highlander and the color looks different (silver to gold) depending on the light.

 

[dragracerz]

the blood found could have been in the car for any amount of time i would think. small drops don't indicate to me anything related to flying down a hillside, off a small cliff and crashing onto a road.

The vehicle was found resting on the passenger side, therefor Bryce would be in the drivers seat (up in the air) and when releasing the seat belt would have fallen to the passenger side, possibly cutting himself or a bloody nose etc

 

[AmandaFast]

the blood found could have been in the car for any amount of time i would think. small drops don't indicate to me anything related to flying down a hillside, off a small cliff and crashing onto a road.

I'm still confused as to why there's so much debate over him being in the car or not? The bloodhounds trailed him from the accident scene, he had to be near the accident scene. The acceleration marks prove the car was in drive, I don't see any evidence pointing toward him not being in the car.

 

[la2cabo]

Here are pics of the vehicle.
Note: Windshield not broken
paint on tires match paint on road



Hopefully this will confirm to everyone that car went down the hill and was found on road

Do you have any pics of the drivers side? I'm trying to determine if the window was up or down. I can see from the pics the front passenger window was up but I'm not sure about the front drivers window. Do you know if he was wearing his seat belt at the time of the accident?

 

[ShannonS]

The vehicle was found resting on the passenger side, therefor Bryce would be in the drivers seat (up in the air) and when releasing the seat belt would have fallen to the passenger side, possibly cutting himself or a bloody nose etc

yes of course thats possible. my point was, it could also be from some point earlier. i've no doubt they would find blood in my car right now if forensics were to look.

 

[SCV_EagleJ]

It's early here ... but I think I need a drink. :drink:

That SUV looks silver to me ... not tan, beige or gold. JMO

Are we sure that's BL's SUV?

Bottoms up! Pictures of the car just made it so much more real. :frown:

 

[dragracerz]

Quester I have what they call a Champagne Highlander and the color looks different (silver to gold) depending on the light.

Yes, it might be called champagne, mocha, pewter etc.


I BELIEVE TOYOTA CALLS THIS COLOR VINTAGE GOLD METALLIC

But remember, it was probably my sister who gave description as tan because she didn't know exact name and it actually looks more tan than gold

I am guessing at the Toyota name, just did a search of highlander color options for that year

 

[AzPistonsGirl]

Based on the SUVs tracks down the mountain its impossible someone pushed it. The tracks go in a straight line and based on the terrain which was very uneven if no one was inside the car would have gone either left or right depending on which side his cars wheel alignment favors more. Someone definitely was inside holding the wheel.

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Disclaimer that I am not to the end of the newest posts yet, and this was mentioned more than once but bears repeating -

these "tracks" that we are assuming are from Bryce's vehicle - it seems like there is no way that one pass through the area is enough to cause all that brush and dry grassy stufff to lay down like it is.

IMO - It already was a bit of a "path" there - sorta cleared (i.e., the grass and brush pressed down enough to show a path) by other vehicles that had traversed that same "path".

Can't imagine why other vehicles would also drive that "path" down the hill, unless it is a spot where vehicles are routinely "jumped" for a thrill? (not suggesting this at all, just seems like there was already a path there and that those "tracks" couldn't have resulted from one vehicle driving there one time.

And I admit - I had been leaning toward Bryce being in the lake/lagoon this whole time and have just today, after reading last night's posts, started to wonder if maybe indeed he was very worried about having to be drug-tested after this "accident" and went off to lay low for a while... which leads me to thinking he was disoriented and angry at himself, and well... coupled with a head injury... in the lagoon/lake. So I am back where I was, but took a different path to get to the same conclusion.

I am glad to know there will be another thorough water search - not soon enough, but soon. And I hate to express anything other than hope that Bryce is alive and well, but it has been a long time...

So much love to his family, friends and everyone who has come to know and love Bryce as this has unfolded...

 

[BluePoppy]

Thank you again Dragracerz for awesome clarifications & the image of the path the dogs tracked.

We will find Bryce. Praying it is soon & in good health.

 

[dragracerz]

yes of course thats possible. my point was, it could also be from some point earlier. i've no doubt they would find blood in my car right now if forensics were to look.

I think your car might be an exception. If forensics were to search my car, they would not find my blood.

Bryce only had this car for about 1 year, it was his parents before that.

Maybe I am wrong, but I don't think there is any validity speculating that the blood was there prior to the crash

 

[Quester]

@ dragracerz

Was windshield cracked? Spider-wed cracked? As though head made contact? TIA

ETA: just saw your other post addressing fact that it was not cracked.

.......So why did radio guy say it was prior to your appearance on show?