CA - Chelsea King (17) Rancho Bernardo (north San Diego County) #3

[TravelingBug]

Possibly. Also, it seems there is a good distance between where a shoe was found and where Chelsea was discovered. This bothers me also. These areas were extensively searched on Saturday, according to police.

The shoe was found Friday in the area right near where Chelsea was found.

And yes, the area was extensively searched constantly, and also had round-the-clock authorities and searchers in that particular area from Saturday on.

If you look on my map, they're within a very, very, small radius. It's the possible knife that may or may not have been found on the other side of the lake near the restaurant. But that location hasn't been confirmed, nor has whether or not the knife is related.

 

[TheMentalist]

Possibly. Also, it seems there is a good distance between where a shoe was found and where Chelsea was discovered. This bothers me also. These areas were extensively searched on Saturday, according to police.

You've heard the expression guys like him crawl out from under rocks...maybe we can take that literally.

 

[luvbeaches]

This is just sad, sad thing. My thoughts and prayers are with Chelsea's family.

Thanks to TravelingBug for your awesome photos and information. And thank you to the other locals for all information in insight into what's been going on in this case.

 

[passionflower]

Was that the incident in Lake Elsinore or Ramona? Or another?

I'm sorry, IDK, I was getting dinner ready and watching TV and trying to tell everyone who could watch...........

 

[SusanB]

Seeing his high school photo, i wonder about the people who said he was a goth-type back in school? EVery photo so far shows short, military-style haircut, nothing to indicate that he was a "Goth."

It was noted that JAG only had that look while in Junior High school

 

[cluciano63]

How did they not find her until Tuesday if they were right there on Friday? that is confusing to me...were they only looking at surface and not looking closely until some days had passed? I am picturing her body basically surrounded by LE for 3 days before they noticed the ground had been disturbed. I would have thought since they found the shoe, they would have searched that area very thoroughly right then?

 

[Ghostwheel]

Hi,

This is being hosted by a former co-worker of mine. If any of you are in the SD area/ Escondido or just want to come out and support this, please go to this facebook page created just for this run:

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RUN FOR CHELSEA - TAKE BACK THE PARKS

SATURDAY, MARCH 20, 2010
9 AM - 10:30 AM
LAKE HODGES

The minute we stop doing what we love (or maybe just like), they've won.

Still catching up on today's thread chatter, but just had to say...
YES!!!! I AGREE!!! Wear orange.

 

[concentric]

Murrieta men arrested in attempted child abduction
Two men have been arrested in connection with an attempted child abduction in Murrieta on Friday.

According to the Murrieta Police Department, a 12-year-old girl walking home from Shivela Middle School just before 4 p.m. on Friday was near Symphony Park Lane and Sunflower Drive when she was approached by two men who asked her name, age and where she lived. When one man asked if she wanted to go with them, she turned and started to walk back to the school. One man jumped in front of her and held out his arms, forcing her to back into the second man, who lightly held her. The girl broke free and ran to a nearby home , hoping the suspects would think it was her home. She hid as the men walked away, then ran home and reported the incident to her grandfather.

On Sunday, the girl’s grandfather saw the suspects walk past his home and called police, who detained Kenneth Morris, 25, of Murrieta; he was pointed out in a lineup as the man who tried to grab the girl. Morris was arrested for annoying or molesting a child and attempted child abduction.

The second suspect was identified as Caesar Walle, 20, of Murrieta, who lives near Shivela Middle School. He was also arrested for annoying or molesting a child and attempted child abduction.

http://www.instantriverside.com/riverside-ca-news/murrieta-men-arrested-in-attempted-child-abduction/2009/05/06/

Found this while looking for another article from today. Anyone remember something in the Elsinore area from last fall that had 3 hispanic suspects?

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I thought I read in the beginning in a news article that a man was seen walking up to Amber and "conversing" with her while she was walking to school. I don't know, but the above scenario somehow has the same feeling for me as to how Amber could have been abducted.

 

[passionflower]

article about gun involved with another girl that I heard on HLN

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/cops-link...ed-killer-linked-abductions/story?id=10012155

 

[TravelingBug]

Chelsea King's parents say they want justice for their daughter

POWAY, Calif. (CBS 8) - Chelsea King's parents are still coming to grips with the loss of their daughter. The prime suspect, registered sex offender John Gardner, is being held without bail.

Brent and Kelly King are saying they want justice for their daughter. Chelsea King's parents sat down with News 8 just one day after looking their daughter's accused killer in the eye.

It's one week to the day the King's 17-year-old daughter went missing.

"I think we've experienced emotions we never even knew existed," Kelly King said.

The body of a young woman investigators believe to be Chelsea was discovered Tuesday off the Southeast end of Lake Hodges.

"Yes, we found Chelsea. Yes, we found the horrible man that did this, but this is just the beginning," Kelly King said.

Ten years ago, Gardner picked up a 13-year-old girl at a bus stop. He took her back to his mother's Rancho Bernardo home, where he then beat and sexually assaulted the girl.

Despite a psychologist's recommendation that Gardner never see the light of day, he was sentenced to six years and was out on the streets in five.

"Are the laws miswritten? We're going to solve this," Brent King said.

Brent and Kelly King are now dedicated to changing the laws.

"The rest of our lives, this is what we do,"

Wednesday in court, for the first time the couple looked their daughter's accused killer in the face.

"I won't even say his name. He doesn't deserve a name," Brent King said.

According to prosecutors, semen found at the scene matched that of John Gardner. They also say if found guilty, Gardner is eligible for the death penalty.

"I always told my children if anything happens to you I'll make sure, and I am letting the courts and the DA make sure for me," Brent King said.

The Kings told News 8 they also plan on contacting the parents of Megan Kanka and Jessica Lunsford to gain some knowledge on how to re-write laws against sex offenders.

 

[TravelingBug]

article about gun involved with another girl that I heard on HLN

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/cops-link...ed-killer-linked-abductions/story?id=10012155

Thanks!

Just wanted to be sure we are getting them all listed somewhere. Got that one on the map

 

[passionflower]

I keep coming back to JG's last meal at Hernandez Hideaway where he was arrested. It was reported by the manager that she had never seen him before. Also reported was that his clothes were wet. This area is on the north side of Lake Hodges and nowhere near where Chelsea was located. I don't get it. (TB..your map is awesome by the way)

Let's think for a moment........pants wet, never seen there before.............
another victim near there??? Could he of...............oh no, please not that close together........
anyone else missing???? anyone raped near there???

 

[passionflower]

Thanks!

Just wanted to be sure we are getting them all listed somewhere. Got that one on the map

Your maps are fantastic, but I would love to see a calander........I'm going to write down evenats on my own and ask a mod to see if we can add to a calendar because I think we will need one!!!!
This will have many victims by the time he goes to trial, IMOO

Huge case coming up!!!

 

[PKitty]

It was reported that Amber DuBois had $200 on her to pay for a lamb (school project). I wonder if they can find out if JAG dropped some cash in the days following her abduction by checking out surveillance cameras in stores. Just thinking. :/

 

[passionflower]

It was reported that Amber DuBois had $200 on her to pay for a lamb (school project). I wonder if they can find out if JAG dropped some cash in the days following her abduction by checking out surveillance cameras in stores. Just thinking. :/

IIRC it was a check............

 

[PKitty]

Oh, thx

 

[powayparent]

It was reported that Amber DuBois had $200 on her to pay for a lamb (school project). I wonder if they can find out if JAG dropped some cash in the days following her abduction by checking out surveillance cameras in stores. Just thinking. :/

It was a check and it hasn't been cashed.

 

[passionflower]

Wondering if JG parents are lawyering up?
Did they show up at court with him yesterday?
No mention of them except their garage door graffetti.......

 

[PQgirly884]

Wondering if JG parents are lawyering up?
Did they show up at court with him yesterday?
No mention of them except their garage door graffetti.......

according to news sources, his parents had left town, not sure where exactly, i believe on tuesday. i heard from someone on here it was monday, but i think after the body was discovered they left. dont blame them

 

[passionflower]

Did JVM (ISSUES) have anything on?
Anyone watching NG in a few minutes? (EST)
I usually don't watch her anymore but if she covers
Chelsea, I will.