Still Missing CA - Classic (Orson West, 3) & Cincere (Orrin West, 4) Calif. City, *parents charged* 21 Dec 2020 #7

[UrsulaWrenn]

Just my opinion; based solely on personal experience:

I think it's easy to imagine the birth parents are inherently better because they should be if they want their genes to pass on to another generation, but time and time again we see that's just not a strong incentive for many, so blood isn't a good indicator of care and devotion.

However...I think kids do better with their B- birth parents, than with B+ foster parents. Familial bonding just seems to be more important to many or most of the children than it is to many of the parents or extended family members.

 

[ChatteringBirds]

it doesn't seem like either one of the Wests were actually working, and that is a requirement for foster placement

Is that 100% always true in the state of California? I'm not sure (JMO)...

One truly has to ask if the Wests were a last resort for Human Services or why they placed two toddlers with a family that could not care for them.

I think the Wests put on a good "show."

What really bothers me is the lack of oversight. Everyone knew they were special-needs but it seems no regular Pediatrician nor social worker visits were required after the adoption, maybe not even before, and that makes me sad.

(All of this is my opinion only, how it appears to me.)

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Massive interest in the case began building after Orrin, 4, and Orson, 3, were reported missing from a California City home in December 2020. Trezell and Jacqueline West were arrested in March of last year after prosecutors said evidence showed the boys died three months before the adoptive parents said they went missing.

During opening statements, prosecutor Eric Smith said the couple’s four other children told authorities Orrin and Orson hadn’t been seen for weeks. One child, 10 at the time, said he witnessed Orrin die, Smith said.

Video surveillance footage showed no one could have snatched the children from the night the couple called police, Smith said. Trezell and Jacqueline West’s story — that Trezell was gathering firewood as the children played outside, briefly entered the home and came back out to find the children gone — doesn’t hold up, the prosecutor said.

Defense attorneys have argued police botched the investigation by failing to interview registered sex offenders in the area until a week passed, using inappropriate interview techniques on the Wests’ other children and ignoring certain leads, including one from a woman who claimed to have seen Orrin and Orson in Texas.

WEST TRIAL: First week’s testimony featured details previously kept under wraps, push back on investigators

After months of anticipation, the trial of Trezell and Jacqueline West kicked off last week with a prosecutor laying out the evidence that resulted in murder charges against the couple in the death…

www.kget.com

 

[Seattle1]

I think the Wests put on a good "show."

What really bothers me is the lack of oversight. Everyone knew they were special-needs but it seems no regular Pediatrician nor social worker visits were required after the adoption, maybe not even before, and that makes me sad.

(All of this is my opinion only, how it appears to me.)

The Wests had two children of their own and had fostered/adopted two other brothers (older boys) prior to accepting Orrin and Orson as fosters. I think this likely played a big part as well.

IMO, COVID also contributed to Human Services not following up on their wards which proved tragic not only for these innocent boys but many other children in need. Harmony Montgomery is another example -- dead 2 years before anybody noticed.

 

[Knox]

Has anyone been able to actually hear the audio at this link? If so what browser are you using? Trial should be starting at 9 AM?

Metro Division Dpt 4 Audio Streaming | Superior Court of California | County of Kern

Metro Division - Department 4 Audio Streaming Users of the Court’s audio streaming service are reminded of the general prohibition against the photographing, recording, and rebroadcasting of court proceedings (including those held by telephone or videoconference). See California Rule of Court

www.kern.courts.ca.gov

 

[Knox]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1645459363308650496

 

[Knox]

KGET 17 News@KGETnews
Trezell West is present with his attorneys Timothy Hennessy and Victor Nasser. Jacqueline West is present with attorneys Alekxia Torres Stallings and Fatima Rodriguez. The prosecutor is Eric Smith. #WestsTrial

 

[Knox]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1645461436058210304

 

[Knox]

Has anyone been able to actually hear the audio at this link? If so what browser are you using? Trial should be starting at 9 AM?

Metro Division Dpt 4 Audio Streaming | Superior Court of California | County of Kern

Metro Division - Department 4 Audio Streaming Users of the Court’s audio streaming service are reminded of the general prohibition against the photographing, recording, and rebroadcasting of court proceedings (including those held by telephone or videoconference). See California Rule of Court

www.kern.courts.ca.gov

Quoting myself to say I'm connected and can hear the audio.

 

[Knox]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1645469857834766336

 

[Warwick7]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1645459363308650496

Will the public get to come or is it first come first serve?

 

[Knox]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1645472742677020673

 

[Knox]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1645473167476162560

 

[Knox]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1645475920667643909

 

[Knox]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1645476541793730560

 

[Knox]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1645479314442567680

 

[Knox]

No Bombshells in Karschamroon's testimony.

On a 15 minute recess-

 

[Knox]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1645484670673649664

 

[Knox]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1645485698479443968

 

[Knox]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1645488194853683200