GUILTY CA - Classic (Orson West, 3) & Cincere (Orrin West, 4), still missing, Calif. City, *Mistrial on counts 4 & 5)* 21 Dec 2020 #8

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Discussing leading questions
Do not put the answer in the question.
Do not coerce or push an answer from child
Repeated questions putting pressure, social or peer pressure decrease accuracy
Not to pressure child to give answer the interviewer wants
Inconsistant allegation is problematic
Fantastical detail like witches flying
Plausible statement VS. plausible
Stallings going over clips in transcripts
Hanson interview, not in proper setting but that happens
First interview was leading
Concerning what Hanson asked if it is ok to help someone kill someone.
Hanson was using a form for questioning suspects to question child
Hanson implanted
playing video
Hanson you know it is wrong to hurt or kill. Yes child says
Child it is against the law
Do you know it is wrong to help someone kill. Yes child says
Would be wrong if someone killed you. Id be dead child says
Who taught you this? parents
Priming.
Objections rephrase
Poor way to start questioning when the child is not the suspect
sustained question
(Stallings can not figure out how to word her question without objection)
Child could connect the question to O/O disappearance
Question about time
Be clear in questioning
There were clarity issues in this questioning
Plays Hanson interview
Do not ask a child to guess as in video.
Comment on he talked to them was not clear on whom. subject dropped. O/O ( IMO he meant parents not O/O )+++++++++
His questions not clear in time, When dropped off? Or where? ( Child seemed to be following along imo )
Barton did guidelines well, building rapport, open ended questions, educated child in questioning, in a proper room,
I thought Barton did a lot right.
Playing video
Barton asking about cold showers in video
Social and peer pressure in this questions and repeat questions
Barton was not accepting his answers on question of cold showers
Dr. sees child trying to say there is nothing going on about cold showers and Barton not accepting
Objection with judge instructions
Barton asks is it (cold showers) a form of punishment and is improper.after child says no
Playing next video of Barton/child ( playing this testimony of abuse over and over will not help defense IMO )
( I am not re typing the video interview being played yet again )
There were proper questions
Great deal of social pressure like ,your brothers have said ---- every body but you-------(example)
Being lead by words bleeding from being spanked Barton is skeptical
Horribly lead interviewing segment
Playing more video of Barton/child
Repeated questions to confirm what brothers are saying. skepticism.
Leading him to report abuse (spankings )when his is saying otherwise ( tongue lashings )
Pressure " What would it take for you to speak up" is coercion
Her belief that child is lying had preconceived notion and bias outside questioning
Going over part of transcript - objection
Dec 28th interview (3rd int.)
Barton was first to mention dead body phrasing then child phrased it dead body- could lead to reconstruction memory
Playing more video Barton/child

 

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Continued
Leading child on bottle drinking being punishment ( she says it was not but child claims is it after Barton says the word)
1st int. Hanson on Dec 22, 2nd Barton on the Dec 22, 3rd Barton on Dec 28th ( This is first time it has been clarified )
Barton asks about smell that had never been mentioned is leading.
Barton also tells the boy he mentioned it before when there had been no mention anywhere (coming from outside?) Facebook?
Lunch break 1:30 (4:30e)

 

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Continued
Stallings with Dr. Napolitano
Interview is persuasive
( Dr. is confused by Stallings questioning)
Question objection
Trying to talk about inconsistent questioning (objections)
objection leading ( not going to write it, Stallings keeps trying to ask a question in different ways )
Sidebar
Statement not consistent with previous statements he made. Makes her question inconsistencies
Child being inconsistent with statements I do not remember after previously stating differently
Child admonished to not talk to anyone about case during lunch (?) ( A lot of clinical speak making my head spin )
objections in doctors statements overruled
(Looking at tweets they are having hard time following her also)
One area was there were so many interviews with this child and the others
She found inconsistencies with all the children Does not know which to believe
objections sustained
She does not have 100% knowledge one way or other (?)
objection- Sidebar
Stallings giving hypothetical question (way too long)
A lot of time in between int. and many interviews could factor in
Stallings another long hypothesis
What are potential leading variances
She has familiarity foster system
Trainings of containing and restraining out of control child.
objection sustained (ends restraint questioning)
Restraint techniques not known in Kern County
Window of tolerance is knowing how to treat someone with trauma
Varies from person to person on how much a person can tolerate
Trauma response. screaming, passing out, fight or flight, calm
People can fluctuate between high and low levels of window of tolerance.
Stallings ends

 

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Cross by Smith of Dr. Napolitano
Discussing difference between psychiatrist and psychologist.
Does not prescribe meds
Discussing her focus in her practice.
Last she completed forensic interview with a child was 2006 (17 years)
She was peer reviewed in the interviews ( forgive me for writing pier previously : )
She thinks Barton went to same training the Dr. did.
Did not think there was a problem with her training++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Can not remember when she testified for prosecution+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Which one pays better++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++( Bam!)
( She gets paid well to work for defense, IMO )+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
$350. an hour - 100 hours ($35K to $42k for her testimony+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
She reviewed documents in case, notes multiple times, conversations with Stallings, watched videos over and over and transcripts.
Reviewed interviews
All she did took 100 hours.
Smith asked about her notes
Smith requested all notes from her.She was not aware+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
She did not get Power Point until yesterday after she had sat in court 2 days (Smith is not happy about that)
She did not think she had to write a report it would increase cost+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Was not asked to write one. Told it was not necessary+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Smith asks what notes she has generated for her personal use.
Never been asked for these notes until Smith+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Smith asks Judge formally for notes++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Money can be a confirmation bias+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Smith is discussing a previous case she was on and was accused of Bias. Was a lawsuit but dismissed+++++++++++++
Said she had insufficient
She did not follow the guidelines of industry according to Dr. Sheron +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Accused by Dr. Sheron of pasting and cutting presentation from other cases
Smith is going over her slides she presented today in court
( OH! man Smith is taking all of the info from her criticizing Bartons interview and giving it back to her )
She did not review 2,000 pages from officers nor was present during entire trial
Her testimony mostly related to Barton and Hanson interviews
She had not reviewed other evidence in this case. Only child interviews
Smith ends and requests Dr. Napolitano's notes
15 min break

 

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Well that was some cross by Smith. He flipped that Confirmation Bias right back on Dr. Napolitano, IMO.
She got payed a lot of money to go over videos, transcripts and cut and paste a presentation for which she has been criticized for in the past. Only does cases for defense.
35k - 42k is a lot of money for looking at only specific aspects of the case, kids interviews. She racked up 100 hours just by viewing them over and over again. IMO.

I think Dr. Napolitano does make a few points on the questioning but nothing to confirm the interviews were tainted or corrupted, IMO. What the child said stands IMO.

 

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Continued
Hennessy on redirect with Napolitano
Going over pay for her interviewing cases
She declines some cases
Discussing lawsuit and report from Dr. Sheron
Went to trial, she testified and she was found fair in her testimony
Discussing training of Barton
Surprised by Bartons comment on Suggestibility
Surprised she was not aware of history of these cases ( Not fair, she mentioned McMartin in example, that case is what she did not know not the history itself )+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++=
People? children can make false statements without intending to lie.
Hennessy ends redirect
Napolitano excused. ( My opinion this testimony was a flop for the defense )
Stallings asked for Sidebar

No more Witnesses for Defense or Prosecution
Defense Rests++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++(Wow! that was all they had)
Tomorrow Court at 2pm
Might be some additional items and clarifications tomorrow morning.
Judge will give jury instructions. Might be done by 3 or 3:30
Back on Tues. for closing statements
Do not discuss case with others
Only discuss when all 12 jurors are in jury room.
No research, no electronics to look up info on case.

COURT TOMORROW AT 2pm (5pm east)

 

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The defense tried their best to show the testimony from the child was false from interview corruption but that fell flat IMO.
They really had nothing else to defend these 2. While the prosecution did not have a slum dunk with evidence against the parents they did have all of the multiple factors showing the boys were not in Cal City and not abducted on Dec 21 2020.

I think LE and CPS who spent all the man hours interviewing and looking for the boys and investigating what happened to them, did a fine job, a thankless job that was criticized in court.
I want to thank them for their caring about the boys because their parents did not.

 

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There must be a reason Dr. Napolitano did not mention the McMartin case in general. She said she was surprised Barton was not aware of the history of Suggestibility cases in California but that is not what Barton stated, she stated she was not aware of the McMartin case.
I expected the actual McMartin case would be discussed in detail but it was barely mentioned.

 

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1656435960857362433

 

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West Trial Day 20: Defense rests, all evidence presented

BAKERSFIELD, Calif. (KGET) — A social worker who interviewed the eldest child of Trezell and Jacqueline West used coercive and suggestive questioning techniques and may have implanted false m…

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For 35K or more Dr. Napolitano did not even write a report on her findings. Was not asked to write one.
Unbelievable! but she took notes that she did not turn over to prosecution.

 

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Another thought. When your main witness for the defense comes out and states that both Barton and Dr. Napolitano had the same training at the same place and she states she thought Barton did a good job of interviewing the children, well then you just lost the argument about improper interviews. IMO

 

[PommyMommy]

Morning Testimony, Part 1
DAY TWENTY - May 10, 2023
https://twitter.com/KGETnews

The trial of Trezell and Jacqueline West is back in session. Judge Charles Brehmer told the jury that a couple days ago there was an objection to a motion to strike regarding a witness, and he struck testimony related to initial contact w children and county counsel. #WestsTrial

The Wests are charged with crimes including murder in the deaths of Orrin, 4, and Orson, 3, and the trial is now in its 20th day. It is expected to wrap up soon. #WestsTrial

Alekxia Torres Stallings, lead counsel for Jacqueline West, has called Dr. Susan Napolitano to the stand. She is an expert witness who the defense will use in an to show the testimony of the Wests' eldest child was influenced by interviewers and isn't reliable. #WestsTrial

Napolitano is a clinical and forensic psychologist. #WestsTrial

Her clinical practice involves helping people through her private practice. Her forensic practice "is the place where my psychological knowledge intersects with the law." She provides answers to complex legal questions regarding child forensic interviews. #WestsTrial

Napolitano is going over her education and qualifications. #WestsTrial

The youngest child Napolitano has evaluated is 18 months, and she has treated children as young as 2 or 3 who have experienced trauma. #WestsTrial

Napolitano testified she has been part of FBI investigations where they relied on her. She also worked with other agencies, and has interviewed children regarding allegations of abuse. #WestsTrial

Napolitano said she has testified about 150 times, in criminal, civil and federal courts. She has at times been appointed by the court. When it comes to criminal matters she testifies about 50% of the time for the prosecution, the other 50% for the defense. #WestsTrial

Napolitano testified yesterday was the first time she met Trezell and Jacqueline West. She said sometimes she avoids getting to know the parties in a case to avoid bias. She has not met the Wests' four other children. #WestsTrial

She primarily was asked to look at forensic interviews of the children, Napolitano said. #WestsTrial

She has been examining this case for about a year, Napolitano said. #WestsTrial

She charges $350 an hour for forensic work, and was approved for 100 hours of work on this case. #WestsTrial

Napolitano said she has reviewed police reports that were summaries of the first forensic interviews, and one related to Wanda West, Trezell's mother. She has watched interviews of the Wests' children and looked at the transcripts and CPS summaries. #WestsTrial

Napolitano testified she listened to parts of the testimony of the boys at trial. She has prepared a PowerPoint to assist in her testimony today. #WestsTrial

A child forensic interview flows from specific training, the most appropriate way to question a child to make sure the interviewer's beliefs don't influence the child. There are a number of protocols that have been together, a list of dos and don'ts, Napolitano said. #WestsTrial

The goal of a forensic interviewer is to prevent a false conviction or acquittal in child abuse cases based on the interview with the child. #WestsTrial

Napolitano is going over older cases. Prior to 1975 there was a mentality of what happens in your home is your own business, she said. After 1975 that changed, there was an ideological swing to protect people in the home. #WestsTrial

"There were some waves of hysteria that took place in the 1980s and the 1990s," she said. People began suspecting Satanic child abuse rings -- including Bakersfield's own Stoll case -- where children were overzealously questioned to put people in prison. #WestsTrial

Large numbers of people were convicted on child interviews alone, Napolitano said. When later examined, the evidence was found to be "flimsy," she said. These cases led to changes in how children were questioned. #WestsTrial

The forensic psychology field developed as a result. As a result of cases, there were recommendations for a more systematic protocol of how to question children when abuse allegations were involved, Napolitano said. #WestsTrial

 

[PommyMommy]

Morning Testimony, Part 2
DAY TWENTY - May 10, 2023
https://twitter.com/KGETnews

(Continued testimony of Napolitano)

How to question children has been fine-tuned over the decades based on research from forensic interviews and other social studies where we have learned about the suggestibility of children, Napolitano said. #WestsTrial

One study dealt with misinformation. Children were playing "Simon says" and were asked to touch their stomach and another child's nose. One month later social workers interviewed the children, and half the social workers knew nothing about the study. #WestsTrial

The other half were told children may have been asked to touch a child's toe. On that side, a "decent amount" recalled they were asked to touch someone's toe. Touching a toe never happened but the children said it did based on the question. #WestsTrial

Another study had to do with false memories. Adults were asked about 4 memories from their childhood. #WestsTrial

3 of the events took place, as told by researchers by the family. They also confirmed the adult had never been lost in the mall as a child. The interviewer then asked the adults about the time they were lost in the mall as a child, and 25% believed it happened. #WestsTrial

Cognitive dissonance is when a person is given two pieces of information that conflict and the person tries to fill in the blanks to make it make sense, Napolitano said. #WestsTrial

This cognitive dissonance led 25% of the adults to create memories of being lost in the mall as a child because the interviewer's question indicated it had happened, she said. #WestsTrial

It is now standard practice for police to record child interviews for examination. The earlier cases influenced how children are questioned with a focus on their capacity for suggestibility. #WestsTrial

"It is common that before a child gets to a forensic interviewer, somebody untrained has talked to them," Napolitano said. She said there are pitfalls to that. #WestsTrial

She said it's important to get to the professionally conducted forensic interview as soon as possible after the allegation is made. #WestsTrial

Napolitano said suggestive questioning -- when you ask a question of a child and give the answer to the question in the question -- was found to be a major issue. #WestsTrial

If you show interview bias early in the interview it's much more likely the child will agree with your mindset, Napolitano said. This can taint the child's answers, she said. #WestsTrial

Confirmation bias is when we look for info that confirms our belief. "When this happens, everything you see if filtered through that lens," said one of Napolitano's PowerPoint slides. #WestsTrial

As a hypothetical, Torres Stallings asked if an example of confirmation bias would be if law enforcement had decided a child was never in a house, and stuck to that belief despite later finding diapers and toys in the house. Napolitano said yes. #WestsTrial

This bias can be found in interviewers, Napolitano said. #WestsTrial

Napolitano said more than one plausible hypothesis must be considered to answer a forensic question. In this case, there are 2 prevailing hypotheses: someone abducted the children, or the Wests are responsible for the missing children. #WestsTrial

She said she would have expected to see those hypotheses examined in the forensic interviews in this case. #WestsTrial

Forensic interviews have common practices that are accepted elsewhere, nationally, Napolitano said. #WestsTrial

Napolitano has conducted at least 100 child forensic interviews and has reviewed hundreds that were conducted by others. #WestsTrial

She said it's not common to have more than one forensic interview on a single child. "I don't recall seeing that in my career," she said when asked if two or three would be extremely rare. #WestsTrial

Napolitano said she knows from these studies that a child's statement can be contaminated if questioned repeatedly. #WestsTrial

Children should be placed in a kid-friendly room and questioned by a person not in a uniform, not wearing a gun, is friendly and has qualities children will find non-threatening, Napolitano said. #WestsTrial

A child's cognitive abilities must be taken into consideration, she said. Get them to talk in an open-ended way about something, even what they had for breakfast, and get a sense of their cognitive and language abilities. #WestsTrial

Asked about recall, Napolitano said it's a certain type of memory when someone asks a question and you just recall the answer. She said it's considered by her profession to be the most accurate report. #WestsTria

Recognition, in contrast, doesn't pull so much from memory, it's a response to a sensory cue to see if you recognize it. These responses are less accurate. #WestsTrial

Torres Stallings is going over interview phases with Napolitano. Rapport building, interview instructions, truth vs lie, narrative practice, substantive phase, narrative and detail gathering, alternative hypotheses and closure. #WestsTrial

A forensic interviewer should question an alternate hypothesis -- in a non-leading way -- to get to the truth, Napolitano said. #WestsTrial

Court is in recess for 15 minutes. #WestsTrial

 

[Knox]

Did the defense rest today? I heard something that said the Jury will be given instructions tomorrow?

 

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Did the defense rest today? I heard something that said the Jury will be given instructions tomorrow?

Yes. Closing statements are next Tuesday.

 

[PommyMommy]

Morning Testimony, Part 3
DAY TWENTY - May 10, 2023
https://twitter.com/KGETnews

Court is back in session with Napolitano still on the stand being questioned by Torres Stallings. #WestsTrial

Napolitano said questions with a child should be open-ended, not yes or no or multiple choice questions. #WestsTrial

Examples of improper questions would be leading, suggestive, coercive, repeated or social pressure questions. #WestsTrial

Napolitano, in regards to the eldest child's interview by Cal City police Officer Brian Hansen, found some things "highly atypical," particularly when Hansen asked if the boy knew killing someone or assisting in the killing of someone was wrong. #WestsTrial

Torres Stallings is playing the first interview. #WestsTrial

After watching a portion, Napolitano said the questions about hurting or killing someone would "prime" a child into thinking someone had been hurt or killed, and placed in his mind that something had happened to Orrin or Orson. #WestsTrial

Napolitano said an interviewer must be clear about what they're talking about when questioning children. Be specific, don't say "they" or "them," give the exact names. #WestsTrial

Going over the interview, Napolitano notes -- as Torres Stallings called it -- there are no "anchors in time." The officer doesn't give a specific date regarding his questions about when the boys were dropped off, for example. #WestsTrial

Regarding the interviews conducted by social worker Sunya Barton, Napolitano said she did a lot right in the questions she asked and followup questions. She said Barton has clearly been trained as a forensic interviewer. #WestsTrial

"I thought she did a lot right," Napolitano said. #WestsTrial

Reviewing a portion of one of Barton's interviews with the eldest child, Napolitano confirmed there were multiple repeated questions and peer pressure questions -- where Barton told the boy what his other brothers had said. #WestsTrial

Napolitano said Barton would not accept the boy's answers and used inappropriate techniques and questions. She described one segment as "extremely leading." #WestsTrial

Torres Stallings is playing another portion of the video. #WestsTrial

After watching this segment, Napolitano said there were some questions that should not be asked. She said "there was a great deal of social pressure on this child during this interview." #WestsTrial

She said Barton told the boy "your brothers said" and similar statements letting him know what his brothers had told her and possibly influencing him. #WestsTrial

There was also implementation of ideas and "dramatic, scary" words like "spanked till you bleed" in that segment, Napolitano said. She said that portion of the interview was poorly done by Barton. #WestsTrial

Another interview segment is being played. #WestsTrial

In this segment, Napolitano said, the eldest child is being asked a question over and over again to conform with what his brother has said, and she hears skepticism in Barton's voice. #WestsTrial

One question by Barton goes along the lines of "what will it take for you to speak up?" which Napolitano said falls under the label of a coercive and suggestive question. #WestsTrial

Regarding Barton's testimony yesterday, Napolitano said the documentation that indicated she believed the eldest child was lying indicates she had preconceived notions and bias before the boy was questioned on Dec. 28, 2020. #WestsTrial

The eldest child never says Orrin died until Barton asked something about Orrin's body, which in Napolitano's opinion led the eldest child to think about seeing him dead -- it could be a reconstruction of an event that never happened. #WestsTrial

In the eldest child's 2nd interview w Barton, there was discussion of smell. Barton brought it up. There had been no mention of it before. Barton bringing it up is a leading question, but what caught Napolitano's attention is she tells the boy he mentioned it before. #WestsTrial

Napolitano said it appeared to her the boy was guessing as to what Barton meant. #WestsTrial

Court is in recess until 1:30 p.m. #WestsTrial

 

[Knox]

Yes. Closing statements are next Tuesday.

Wow, that was a lot quicker than I think anyone expected. What's your sense on how the jury will vote?

 

[PommyMommy]

Afternoon Testimony, Part 1
DAY TWENTY - May 10, 2023
https://twitter.com/KGETnews

The trial of Trezell and Jacqueline West is back in session and Dr. Susan Napolitano is back on the stand testifying to her opinion of interviews a social worker conducted with the Wests' eldest child. #WestsTrial

Napolitano, a licensed clinical and forensic psychologist, has been called as an expert witness by the defense. #WestsTrial

Alekxia Torres Stallings, lead attorney for Jacqueline West, is asking Napolitano questions about the eldest West child's grand jury testimony. #WestsTrial

There have been multiple objections by the prosecution. A sidebar has been called. #WestsTrial

Sidebar is over and Torres Stallings is continuing to ask about questioning during the grand jury testimony and what Napolitano thinks of it. #WestsTrial

Napolitano said the boy gives a statement that is not consistent with his previous statements, making her question why there is that inconsistency and how to get to the bottom of it. #WestsTrial

Napolitano said she found it significant the eldest child at the start of his testimony before the grand jury and at trial said he didn't remember or said his brothers were with him. #WestsTrial

Napolitano said she didn't know the four eldest West children had a welfare check on Dec. 21, 2020, the night Orrin and Orson were reported missing. She said that may have had an impact on the children. #WestsTrial

Napolitano said if she sees a series of interviews in which children say a number of inconsistent things, she doesn't know which of those statements to believe. #WestsTrial

Another sidebar has been called.

They're back, and Torres Stallings has resumed questioning. #WestsTrial

Given a hypothetical which follows the series of interviews performed with the children in the West case, Napolitano said she finds a lot wrong with it and potential for error. #WestsTrial

Torres Stallings is asking about restraint techniques for children and there was an objection as to the question's relevance. The objection was sustained and that line of questioning has ended. #WestsTrial

Napolitano said her hourly rate of $350 is customary among her peers. She said the county is paying her fees. #WestsTrial

Torres Stallings has ended her questioning and prosecutor Eric Smith has begun cross-examination. #WestsTrial

 

[cuffem]

Wow, that was a lot quicker than I think anyone expected. What's your sense on how the jury will vote?

I was also surprised that was all the defense had. I can not say for sure what the jury will do but as I stated in several above posts I do not think the defense proved that improper interviews were done and that caused a false memory. IMO.

Smith made some very good points during recross of Dr. Napolitano that I pointed out in my transcribed post #484

 

[PommyMommy]

Afternoon Testimony, Part 3
DAY TWENTY - May 10, 2023
https://twitter.com/KGETnews

(Cross examination of Napolitano)

Torres Stallings has ended her questioning and prosecutor Eric Smith has begun cross-examination. #WestsTrial

Smith is asking about the difference between a psychiatrist and psychologist and the current focus of her practice. #WestsTrial

Napolitano said she works on child custody evaluations, evaluates sexually violent predators. She said she reviews 5-10 child forensic interviews a year. The last time she conducted a child forensic interview was in 2006. #WestsTrial

"So it's been 17 years since you personally did one?" Smith asked. "I guess times has gone by fast. Yes, it's been 17 years," she said. #WestsTrial

Asked the last time she testified for the prosecution, Napolitano said she couldn't recall in a state case, but she testified for the U.S. Attorney's Office in the last three years. #WestsTrial

Smith asked who pays better, the prosecution or defense. Napolitano said it depends. #WestsTrial

She could get paid quite a bit more if hired by a private attorney than through a state office, Napolitano said. #WestsTrial

Napolitano confirmed she will be paid $35K to $42K for the work she's done on this case during the past year. #WestsTrial

Smith asked her what work she's done on this case. Napolitano said she reviewed interviews by Hansen and Barton with the children, and reviewed grand jury testimony and other transcripts. She said that took her 100 hours. #WestsTrial

Asked for her notes, Napolitano said she wasn't aware they had been requested. #WestsTrial

Smith asked if she was aware he didn't get her PowerPoint slides until yesterday. She said she's certain he got an earlier version. #WestsTrial

Napolitano said she didn't write a report about what she reviewed and did because she wasn't asked. #WestsTrial

Napolitano testified she didn't review the 2,000-page offense report in this case. Asked by Smith to describe what she has generated in this case, she said she has taken notes on the transcripts and wrote up for her own purposes what she found problematic. #WestsTrial

Napolitano testified she's never been asked for the notes until now. Smith has formally asked for them on the record. She said she can get them to him, but not at this moment. #WestsTrial

Torres Stallings asked for a sidebar but Judge Charles R. Brehmer has denied it until the mid-afternoon break. #WestsTrial

Asked if money could result in confirmation bias, Napolitano said if you're getting paid for a specific opinion it could bias you to agree with that opinion. #WestsTrial

Smith has referred to a report where another doctor criticized Napolitano, saying she exhibited bias favoring her client without sufficient data to back up her opinion. Napolitano said she's aware of the report. #WestsTrial

Napolitano doesn't recall being accused of cutting and pasting her presentation in that case from other cases. #WestsTrial

Napolitano confirmed she has not been present throughout the entire trial and has not reviewed other evidence in this case, just child interviews. #WestsTrial

Smith ended his questioning and a 15-20 minute break has been called. #WestsTrial