GUILTY CA - Classic (Orson West, 3) & Cincere (Orrin West, 4), still missing, Calif. City, *Mistrial on counts 4 & 5)* 21 Dec 2020 #8

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now the monitor isn’t working. they are to be shown photographs of the West’s van.
 
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now the monitor isn’t working. they are to be shown photographs of the West’s van.
alexincoluca I am keeping an on going log a few posts back but if you could posts current tweets of the trial from KGET 17 that would be great.

I should have mentioned please feel free to post anything from the trial. I may have missed.
 
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Stallings starts cross with Alfredo Bayaca a criminalist documenting van.( In my opinion Stallings seems to be always trying to imply the information between the investigators has a prejudgement that the case was being investigated as a homicide and not missing children with info being given between investigators. JMO, not fact.)

Two small spots from Bluestar but did not swab. Looking for receipts pertaining to foulplay but only found food receipts, etc.
Did not take fingerprints on windows.

( I really thought the stick from previous testimony, that was seen in the van would be mentioned but maybe that was what the long sidebar was about. With not having audio, I have no idea if it was in todays pics from the van.)

One of the pics shows a diaper in the van not collected. Stallings ends. I assume it is Nasser beginning cross.
Stating Bluestar can have false positives. Nasser end and Bayaca is excused.

NOT IN SESSION THIS AFTERNOON NOR THURS THROUGH MONDAY NEXT WEEK.
This has to do with the jury going on location to the West's home , this afternoon and Thursday.
Court has recessed until next Tuesday at 9am.
 
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Repeating!!!

COURT NOT IN SESSION UNTIL NEXT TUESDAY AT 9am.
 
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Thank you again, cuffem. :)

And so sorry about your phone, @alexanicoluca.

I'll take a look at KGET's twitter and see what I can get copied over from today. Sounds interesting...!
 
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Morning Testimony, Part 3
DAY ELEVEN - April 19, 2023
https://twitter.com/KGETnews

The jury is back after a break this morning in the trial of Trezell and Jacqueline West, charged with murder in the deaths of adopted sons Orrin, 4, and Orson, 3. #WestsTrial

(This sounds like there was earlier testimony but I don't see any tweets from KGET prior to this. ? )

Laura Aguirre has been called to the stand. She lives on Lotus Lane in Bakersfield, has been there 11 years. #WestsTrial

Prosecutor Eric Smith is questioning her. #WestsTrial

Near the end of 2020, she spoke with a woman who testified earlier today to seeing a couple throw something in the trash at the apartment complex where the Wests lived. #WestsTrial

Aguirre testified she told the woman maybe something from a party was thrown away. She said the woman was shook up. #WestsTrial

Aguirre said this woman was crying and panicking and said they heard a "really bad noise." #WestsTrial

Smith is displaying a diagram of Casa Loma Apartments on Lotus Lane and asking what building Aguirre lived in at the time. The Wests lived at the complex until moving to Cal City in September 2020. #WestsTrial

Aguirre testified she recognizes a photo of Trezell West, he lived somewhere behind her apartment. #WestsTrial

Aguirre said she didn't see him often, he was always walking with a stick, saw him throw diapers away. Shown a photo of Jacqueline West, Aguirre said she didn't really remember her. #WestsTrial

Aguirre said she remembers watching the news and seeing Orrin and Orson had been reported missing near the end of 2020. #WestsTrial

Aguirre said another resident called her and said the Wests were the people she had seen near the apartment trash bin. #WestsTrial

The Wests had a van, Aguirre said, and they parked it in a vacant spot, not their own parking space. #WestsTrial

Aguirre testified she saw Trezell sometimes while walking her dog but never paid much attention. #WestsTrial

Looking at an overhead image of the complex, Aguirre showed where she lived, the Wests lived and where the woman who reported seeing the Wests dump something in the trash lived. #WestsTrial

Aguirred testified the woman called her shaking and crying on Sept. 19, 2020, because she saw the couple dump something. #WestsTrial

Cross-examination is being conducted by Fatima Rodriguez, one of Jacqueline West's attorneys. #WestsTrial

She asked a few quick questions then ended, now Timothy Hennessy, lead counsel for Trezell, is questioning Aguirre. #WestsTrial

Aguirre confirmed the dumpster are big, metal, and can be loud when something is tossed in them. #WestsTrial

Until the Wests appeared on the news months later, the woman who contacted her didn't know who they were, Aguirre said. Aguirre has been excused. #WestsTrial
 
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Morning Testimony, Part 4
DAY ELEVEN - April 19, 2023
https://twitter.com/KGETnews

Alfredo Bayaca, who began testifying yesterday, has been recalled to the stand. He works at the Kern Regional Crime Lab. #WestsTrial

During his testimony yesterday, Bayaca said he had been asked to process the Wests' white van for evidence. #WestsTrial

His main duty was to take photos, Bayaca said. #WestsTrial

Smith is displaying photos Bayaca took of the exterior of the van. #WestsTrial

Now Smith is showing photos of the van with the door open and its interior. Bayaca testified he wore gloves while taking photos. #WestsTrial

"I tried to photograph as much of the van as possible," Bayaca said. #WestsTrial

Among the items seen in the van are child car seats. #WestsTrial

There are 3 rows of seats behind the driver's seat. #WestsTrial

Bayaca said he didn't seize evidence when he did the initial vehicle exam. #WestsTrial

Bayaca also took photos of contents taken from each area of the van -- driver's side area, front passenger area, etc. There are bags, loose change, cups. #WestsTrial

Bayaca said he was instructed to look for pools of blood, evidence of foul play. #WestsTrial

Bayaca worked with another member of the crime lab going over the van. Chemicals were sprayed to look for blood evidence, he said. #WestsTrial

There was some positive reaction to one of the chemicals near the end of the van, but the spots were so small they didn't collect it. They were looking for large amounts of blood, Bayaca said. #WestsTrial

Smith ended his questioning and Alekxia Torres Stallings, lead counsel for Jacqueline West, has begun cross-examination. #WestsTrial

Bayaca said the other crime lab worker took notes and wrote a report about their examination of the van. #WestsTrial

The van came in at 4:30 p.m. on Dec. 23, 2020, to be processed, Bayaca said. #WestsTrial

The van was driven to their location by a Cal City police officer, Bayaca said. #WestsTrial

Bayaca confirmed while processing the van they were given info about what was happening in Cal City. #WestsTrial

Bayaca testified if they get a vehicle and know the victims were in their earlier they look for evidence of foul play such as large pools of blood. An officer told him the van was the Wests' family van and used by all the children. #WestsTrial

The child car seats were removed but not the actual seats of the van, Bayaca said. #WestsTrial

The Bluestar chemical sprayed to detect signs of blood was used all over the van, Bayaca said. They began processing the van at 4:30 p.m. and ended at 7:45 p.m., he said. #WestsTrial

Bayaca said Bluestar can reveal the presence of blood even if a person tried to clean it. #WestsTrial

Bayaca said he was also looking for receipts related to the incident but didn't find anything. #WestsTrial

Torres Stallings asked about smudge marks on a window of the van. Bayaca said he didn't take any fingerprint evidence off the van. #WestsTrial

Bayaca said the smudge marks on the van's windows may have been made by a hand. #WestsTrial

One in the van was a diaper but Bayaca said he doesn't know if it was used. He said he did not seize it. #WestsTrial

Baby wipes in the van were not seized, Bayaca said. Torres Stallings ended her questioning. #WestsTrial

Hennessy has begun cross-examination. #WestsTrial

Bayaca said the chemicals used in the van don't confirm there is blood, but that there may be blood present. If there's a positive reaction the evidence will be taken to determine if it is in fact blood. #WestsTrial

The chemicals can react to things that are not blood, he said. Hennessy finished his questionign and Bayaca has been excused. #WestsTrial

Court will not be in session this afternoon, tomorrow, Friday and Monday. The trial resumes Tuesday. #WestsTrial

The jury will be traveling to locations in Bakersfield this afternoon and in California City tomorrow. #WestsTrial
 
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Morning Testimony, Part 1
DAY ELEVEN - April 19, 2023
https://twitter.com/KGETnews

The jury is back after a break this morning in the trial of Trezell and Jacqueline West, charged with murder in the deaths of adopted sons Orrin, 4, and Orson, 3. #WestsTrial

(This sounds like there was earlier testimony but I don't see any tweets from KGET prior to this. ? )

Laura Aguirre has been called to the stand. She lives on Lotus Lane in Bakersfield, has been there 11 years. #WestsTrial

Prosecutor Eric Smith is questioning her. #WestsTrial

Near the end of 2020, she spoke with a woman who testified earlier today to seeing a couple throw something in the trash at the apartment complex where the Wests lived. #WestsTrial

Aguirre testified she told the woman maybe something from a party was thrown away. She said the woman was shook up. #WestsTrial

Aguirre said this woman was crying and panicking and said they heard a "really bad noise." #WestsTrial

Smith is displaying a diagram of Casa Loma Apartments on Lotus Lane and asking what building Aguirre lived in at the time. The Wests lived at the complex until moving to Cal City in September 2020. #WestsTrial

Aguirre testified she recognizes a photo of Trezell West, he lived somewhere behind her apartment. #WestsTrial

Aguirre said she didn't see him often, he was always walking with a stick, saw him throw diapers away. Shown a photo of Jacqueline West, Aguirre said she didn't really remember her. #WestsTrial

Aguirre said she remembers watching the news and seeing Orrin and Orson had been reported missing near the end of 2020. #WestsTrial

Aguirre said another resident called her and said the Wests were the people she had seen near the apartment trash bin. #WestsTrial

The Wests had a van, Aguirre said, and they parked it in a vacant spot, not their own parking space. #WestsTrial

Aguirre testified she saw Trezell sometimes while walking her dog but never paid much attention. #WestsTrial

Looking at an overhead image of the complex, Aguirre showed where she lived, the Wests lived and where the woman who reported seeing the Wests dump something in the trash lived. #WestsTrial

Aguirred testified the woman called her shaking and crying on Sept. 19, 2020, because she saw the couple dump something. #WestsTrial

Cross-examination is being conducted by Fatima Rodriguez, one of Jacqueline West's attorneys. #WestsTrial

She asked a few quick questions then ended, now Timothy Hennessy, lead counsel for Trezell, is questioning Aguirre. #WestsTrial

Aguirre confirmed the dumpster are big, metal, and can be loud when something is tossed in them. #WestsTrial

Until the Wests appeared on the news months later, the woman who contacted her didn't know who they were, Aguirre said. Aguirre has been excused. #WestsTrial
Pommy, I could not find tweets earlier today. I think they may have been either late or thinking it was the field trip day all day and not half day.
Thanks for posting. It was hard understanding some of what was said or going on today.
 
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Okay, I found the missing testimony on Bakersfield Now so these posts are going to be out of order, but the beginning testimony is coming up...
 
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Morning Testimony, Part 3
DAY ELEVEN - April 19, 2023
https://twitter.com/KGETnews

The jury is back after a break this morning in the trial of Trezell and Jacqueline West, charged with murder in the deaths of adopted sons Orrin, 4, and Orson, 3. #WestsTrial

(This sounds like there was earlier testimony but I don't see any tweets from KGET prior to this. ? )

Laura Aguirre has been called to the stand. She lives on Lotus Lane in Bakersfield, has been there 11 years. #WestsTrial

Prosecutor Eric Smith is questioning her. #WestsTrial

Near the end of 2020, she spoke with a woman who testified earlier today to seeing a couple throw something in the trash at the apartment complex where the Wests lived. #WestsTrial

Aguirre testified she told the woman maybe something from a party was thrown away. She said the woman was shook up. #WestsTrial

Aguirre said this woman was crying and panicking and said they heard a "really bad noise." #WestsTrial

Smith is displaying a diagram of Casa Loma Apartments on Lotus Lane and asking what building Aguirre lived in at the time. The Wests lived at the complex until moving to Cal City in September 2020. #WestsTrial

Aguirre testified she recognizes a photo of Trezell West, he lived somewhere behind her apartment. #WestsTrial

Aguirre said she didn't see him often, he was always walking with a stick, saw him throw diapers away. Shown a photo of Jacqueline West, Aguirre said she didn't really remember her. #WestsTrial

Aguirre said she remembers watching the news and seeing Orrin and Orson had been reported missing near the end of 2020. #WestsTrial

Aguirre said another resident called her and said the Wests were the people she had seen near the apartment trash bin. #WestsTrial

The Wests had a van, Aguirre said, and they parked it in a vacant spot, not their own parking space. #WestsTrial

Aguirre testified she saw Trezell sometimes while walking her dog but never paid much attention. #WestsTrial

Looking at an overhead image of the complex, Aguirre showed where she lived, the Wests lived and where the woman who reported seeing the Wests dump something in the trash lived. #WestsTrial

Aguirred testified the woman called her shaking and crying on Sept. 19, 2020, because she saw the couple dump something. #WestsTrial

Cross-examination is being conducted by Fatima Rodriguez, one of Jacqueline West's attorneys. #WestsTrial

She asked a few quick questions then ended, now Timothy Hennessy, lead counsel for Trezell, is questioning Aguirre. #WestsTrial

Aguirre confirmed the dumpster are big, metal, and can be loud when something is tossed in them. #WestsTrial

Until the Wests appeared on the news months later, the woman who contacted her didn't know who they were, Aguirre said. Aguirre has been excused. #WestsTrial
It was hard to understand this testimony and I do not think the prosecution should have allowed Aguirre on the stand. IMO only the neighbors all have been gossiping about the case since it was reported. Agruirre made little sense.
 
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Morning Testimony, Part 1
DAY ELEVEN - April 19, 2023
Twitter - Bakersfield Now

Court is back in session. #Westtrial
9:16 AM · Apr 19, 2023

Ralph Mosley is at the stand being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-He is the biological father of Cincere Pettus (Orrin West). He says Cincere was born August 4, 2016. He took a mouth swab DNA paternity to learn he was Cincere’s Father. #Westtrial

Ralph Mosley is at the stand being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-He was told Cincere was being adopted. He was told his parental rights were terminated. #Westtrial

Ralph Mosley is at the stand being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-He went to California City two or three days after he saw on the news Cincere and Classic were missing. He went with his wife. #Westtrial

Ralph Mosley is at the stand being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-He did a search in California City. He did not talk to Trezell or Jacqueline West. He has never had contact with Trezell or Jacqueline West. #Westtrial

Ralph Mosley is at the stand being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-Before going to California two or three days after the boys were reported missing he had never been to California City before. #Westtrial

Ralph Mosley is at the stand being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-BPD contacted him and asked him to give them a DNA swab for a paternal test. He did the test and gave it to them. #Westtrial

Ralph Mosley is at the stand being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-Smith asked if at any point he went to California City and took Cincere or Classic. He said no. #Westtrial

Ralph Mosley is at the stand being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys, Torres Stallings-When he went to California City less than 10 people that he considers family, were there. They were not blood family. #Westtrial

Ralph Mosley is at the stand being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys, Torres Stallings-His parental rights were terminated by the court. He had one visit with Classic in 2017 or 201&. That was the last time he saw him. #Westtrial

Ralph Mosley has been excused. #Westtrial
 
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Morning Testimony, Part 1
DAY ELEVEN - April 19, 2023
Twitter - Bakersfield Now

Court is back in session. #Westtrial
9:16 AM · Apr 19, 2023

Ralph Mosley is at the stand being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-He is the biological father of Cincere Pettus (Orrin West). He says Cincere was born August 4, 2016. He took a mouth swab DNA paternity to learn he was Cincere’s Father. #Westtrial

Ralph Mosley is at the stand being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-He was told Cincere was being adopted. He was told his parental rights were terminated. #Westtrial

Ralph Mosley is at the stand being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-He went to California City two or three days after he saw on the news Cincere and Classic were missing. He went with his wife. #Westtrial

Ralph Mosley is at the stand being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-He did a search in California City. He did not talk to Trezell or Jacqueline West. He has never had contact with Trezell or Jacqueline West. #Westtrial

Ralph Mosley is at the stand being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-Before going to California two or three days after the boys were reported missing he had never been to California City before. #Westtrial

Ralph Mosley is at the stand being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-BPD contacted him and asked him to give them a DNA swab for a paternal test. He did the test and gave it to them. #Westtrial

Ralph Mosley is at the stand being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-Smith asked if at any point he went to California City and took Cincere or Classic. He said no. #Westtrial

Ralph Mosley is at the stand being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys, Torres Stallings-When he went to California City less than 10 people that he considers family, were there. They were not blood family. #Westtrial

Ralph Mosley is at the stand being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys, Torres Stallings-His parental rights were terminated by the court. He had one visit with Classic in 2017 or 201&. That was the last time he saw him. #Westtrial

Ralph Mosley has been excused. #Westtrial
I spent a long time trying to get the audio to work. Missed this entirely, I am not sure he was on the audio at all. There was also a man who was a neighbor on the stand who witnessed both TW and JW with a stick and diaper and a cooler at the dumpster in Bakersfield. I missed the first part of this, it sounded interesting.
Do you see those tweets anywhere? This seems to be missing. I wrote what I could about it upthread.
 
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Morning Testimony, Part 2
DAY ELEVEN - April 19, 2023
Twitter - Bakersfield Now

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being is at the stand speaking through at interpreter. She told prosecuting attorney Eric Smith she lives at Casa Loma Apartments on Lotus Lane. She has lived there for 10 years. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being is at the stand speaking through at interpreter. She told prosecuting attorney Eric Smith on September 19, 2020 her daughter left for Massachusetts. Her daughter had lived in Casa Loma Apartments. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being is at the stand speaking through at interpreter. She told prosecuting attorney Eric Smith on September 19, 2020 She was in her apartment, cleaning it up until almost 11PM. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being is at the stand speaking through at interpreter. She told prosecuting attorney Eric Smith on September 19, 2020 she walked out of her daughter’s apartment and saw a couple came out of the dumpster, a man and a woman. #Westtria

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-She said a man and a woman said the man was tall dark skinned, slim. The woman had light skin, curly and wavy and hair down about 6 to 8 inches below her shoulder. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-She saw the couple carrying an ice chest. It was blue with a white lid. They were each holding a handle. Smith asked her how big it was. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-She spread out her hands and said it was about this big. The judge took out a tape measure and said it was 21 inches. They came out of the dumpster and she saw me head on. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-They got on the curb and crossed on the curb in front. They were walking very slowly. They were speaking in English and laughing very loudly. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-When they came out the dumpster area they were by themselves. They walked to a die walk. They stopped and saw her again. They continued walking and went into an apartment. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-They grabbed something, something skinny. The man placed it on his shoulder. They continued walking like they were going to the grass area and then they made a turn. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-When they walked to the grassy area they were by themselves. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-Her daughter lived in building G. The trash can area was near that. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-She is describing the path the man and woman she saw took from the apartment to the dumpster. #Westrrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-She saw the man before that once. He had a stick in one hand and a diaper in another. That time was a month prior to when she saw him with the woman and the ice chest. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-Smith is showing a police report of Trezell West with his picture. She confirmed that picture was the man he observed, he just didn’t have the mustache that he did in the picture. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by Eric Smith-Smith is showing a police report of Jacqueline West with her picture. She confirmed that picture was the woman she observed, because her beautiful hair stood out to her. It was wavy.#Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by Eric Smith-She spoke about this with a neighbor Laura Aguirre. She called law enforcement and told them about this. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by Eric Smith-She says the couple was by themselves this whole time when she saw them in September. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys Fatima Rodriguez-The people she saw carried a blue cooler with a white lid. She confirmed she never saw them throw something into the dumpster. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys Fatima Rodriguez-What prompted her to look was the noise she heard. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys Fatima Rodriguez-She did an interview with two police officers, one translating on January 7, 2021. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys Fatima Rodriguez-Fatima asked her do you remember telling law enforcement you never saw her face? She said saw her face. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys Fatima Rodriguez-On January 7, 2021, she tells officers her friend Laura Aguirre sent her a link of the West’s press conference outside of their home in California City. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys Fatima Rodriguez-She was going to go out of town and Laura told her these kids were missing and Maria said what kids. Laura asked her to look at the Wests carefully. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys Fatima Rodriguez-When she saw the press conference she noticed it was the same man and woman she saw. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys Fatima Rodriguez-Rodriguez asked Salas if she remembers telling law enforcement she did not see the man and woman’s face. She said no I don’t. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys Fatima Rodriguez-She says she doesn’t remember telling law enforcement there wasn’t enough light and it was hard to see. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys Fatima Rodriguez-She says maybe the Officers misunderstood me or translated it incorrectly. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys Fatima Rodriguez-She says the light came on when they went to the dumpster. She could see them very clearly. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by defense attorney Fatima Rodriguez-Rodriguez asked do you not remember telling officers you could not see their faces and that it was too dark to see and now two years later you are saying you could see them? #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by defense attorney Fatima Rodriguez-She said no I don’t remember that. I remember that day very well. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys, Fatima Rodriguez-She confirmed those DMV photos of Trezell and Jacqueline were the people she saw. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys, Fatima Rodriguez-Rodriguez said at a prior hearing you said the male looked lighter and the female’s face looked fuller. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys, Fatima Rodriguez-She said yeah his face is going to look lighter when it is in the light. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys, Fatima Rodriguez-Rodriguez asked her do you remember telling law enforcement you saw two black people? Maria responded he was black, not her. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys, Fatima Rodriguez-She said I’ll repeat myself, the couple I saw on the news was the couple I saw. I saw them very clearly. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas’s interpreter is translating for her the report of the interview she had with law enforcement January 7, 2020. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys, Fatima Rodriguez-Rodriguez asked why did you lie to law enforcement that you didn’t see the man and woman’s faces and that it was too dark. She said maybe because I was nervous . #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys, Fatima Rodriguez-I felt since that night something wasn’t right and I sensed danger and felt fear. #Westtrial

(Laura Aguirre's testimony follows this.)
 
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Morning Testimony, Part 4
DAY ELEVEN - April 19, 2023
https://twitter.com/KGETnews

Alfredo Bayaca, who began testifying yesterday, has been recalled to the stand. He works at the Kern Regional Crime Lab. #WestsTrial

During his testimony yesterday, Bayaca said he had been asked to process the Wests' white van for evidence. #WestsTrial

His main duty was to take photos, Bayaca said. #WestsTrial

Smith is displaying photos Bayaca took of the exterior of the van. #WestsTrial

Now Smith is showing photos of the van with the door open and its interior. Bayaca testified he wore gloves while taking photos. #WestsTrial

"I tried to photograph as much of the van as possible," Bayaca said. #WestsTrial

Among the items seen in the van are child car seats. #WestsTrial

There are 3 rows of seats behind the driver's seat. #WestsTrial

Bayaca said he didn't seize evidence when he did the initial vehicle exam. #WestsTrial

Bayaca also took photos of contents taken from each area of the van -- driver's side area, front passenger area, etc. There are bags, loose change, cups. #WestsTrial

Bayaca said he was instructed to look for pools of blood, evidence of foul play. #WestsTrial

Bayaca worked with another member of the crime lab going over the van. Chemicals were sprayed to look for blood evidence, he said. #WestsTrial

There was some positive reaction to one of the chemicals near the end of the van, but the spots were so small they didn't collect it. They were looking for large amounts of blood, Bayaca said. #WestsTrial

Smith ended his questioning and Alekxia Torres Stallings, lead counsel for Jacqueline West, has begun cross-examination. #WestsTrial

Bayaca said the other crime lab worker took notes and wrote a report about their examination of the van. #WestsTrial

The van came in at 4:30 p.m. on Dec. 23, 2020, to be processed, Bayaca said. #WestsTrial

The van was driven to their location by a Cal City police officer, Bayaca said. #WestsTrial

Bayaca confirmed while processing the van they were given info about what was happening in Cal City. #WestsTrial

Bayaca testified if they get a vehicle and know the victims were in their earlier they look for evidence of foul play such as large pools of blood. An officer told him the van was the Wests' family van and used by all the children. #WestsTrial

The child car seats were removed but not the actual seats of the van, Bayaca said. #WestsTrial

The Bluestar chemical sprayed to detect signs of blood was used all over the van, Bayaca said. They began processing the van at 4:30 p.m. and ended at 7:45 p.m., he said. #WestsTrial

Bayaca said Bluestar can reveal the presence of blood even if a person tried to clean it. #WestsTrial

Bayaca said he was also looking for receipts related to the incident but didn't find anything. #WestsTrial

Torres Stallings asked about smudge marks on a window of the van. Bayaca said he didn't take any fingerprint evidence off the van. #WestsTrial

Bayaca said the smudge marks on the van's windows may have been made by a hand. #WestsTrial

One in the van was a diaper but Bayaca said he doesn't know if it was used. He said he did not seize it. #WestsTrial

Baby wipes in the van were not seized, Bayaca said. Torres Stallings ended her questioning. #WestsTrial

Hennessy has begun cross-examination. #WestsTrial

Bayaca said the chemicals used in the van don't confirm there is blood, but that there may be blood present. If there's a positive reaction the evidence will be taken to determine if it is in fact blood. #WestsTrial

The chemicals can react to things that are not blood, he said. Hennessy finished his questionign and Bayaca has been excused. #WestsTrial

Court will not be in session this afternoon, tomorrow, Friday and Monday. The trial resumes Tuesday. #WestsTrial

The jury will be traveling to locations in Bakersfield this afternoon and in California City tomorrow. #WestsTrial
I really thought he was going to mention the 2 sticks taped together because I had thought it was found in the van but I guess not.
 
  • #136
Morning Testimony, Part 2
DAY ELEVEN - April 19, 2023
Twitter - Bakersfield Now

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being is at the stand speaking through at interpreter. She told prosecuting attorney Eric Smith she lives at Casa Loma Apartments on Lotus Lane. She has lived there for 10 years. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being is at the stand speaking through at interpreter. She told prosecuting attorney Eric Smith on September 19, 2020 her daughter left for Massachusetts. Her daughter had lived in Casa Loma Apartments. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being is at the stand speaking through at interpreter. She told prosecuting attorney Eric Smith on September 19, 2020 She was in her apartment, cleaning it up until almost 11PM. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being is at the stand speaking through at interpreter. She told prosecuting attorney Eric Smith on September 19, 2020 she walked out of her daughter’s apartment and saw a couple came out of the dumpster, a man and a woman. #Westtria

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-She said a man and a woman said the man was tall dark skinned, slim. The woman had light skin, curly and wavy and hair down about 6 to 8 inches below her shoulder. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-She saw the couple carrying an ice chest. It was blue with a white lid. They were each holding a handle. Smith asked her how big it was. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-She spread out her hands and said it was about this big. The judge took out a tape measure and said it was 21 inches. They came out of the dumpster and she saw me head on. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-They got on the curb and crossed on the curb in front. They were walking very slowly. They were speaking in English and laughing very loudly. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-When they came out the dumpster area they were by themselves. They walked to a die walk. They stopped and saw her again. They continued walking and went into an apartment. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-They grabbed something, something skinny. The man placed it on his shoulder. They continued walking like they were going to the grass area and then they made a turn. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-When they walked to the grassy area they were by themselves. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-Her daughter lived in building G. The trash can area was near that. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-She is describing the path the man and woman she saw took from the apartment to the dumpster. #Westrrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-She saw the man before that once. He had a stick in one hand and a diaper in another. That time was a month prior to when she saw him with the woman and the ice chest. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-Smith is showing a police report of Trezell West with his picture. She confirmed that picture was the man he observed, he just didn’t have the mustache that he did in the picture. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by Eric Smith-Smith is showing a police report of Jacqueline West with her picture. She confirmed that picture was the woman she observed, because her beautiful hair stood out to her. It was wavy.#Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by Eric Smith-She spoke about this with a neighbor Laura Aguirre. She called law enforcement and told them about this. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by Eric Smith-She says the couple was by themselves this whole time when she saw them in September. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys Fatima Rodriguez-The people she saw carried a blue cooler with a white lid. She confirmed she never saw them throw something into the dumpster. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys Fatima Rodriguez-What prompted her to look was the noise she heard. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys Fatima Rodriguez-She did an interview with two police officers, one translating on January 7, 2021. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys Fatima Rodriguez-Fatima asked her do you remember telling law enforcement you never saw her face? She said saw her face. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys Fatima Rodriguez-On January 7, 2021, she tells officers her friend Laura Aguirre sent her a link of the West’s press conference outside of their home in California City. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys Fatima Rodriguez-She was going to go out of town and Laura told her these kids were missing and Maria said what kids. Laura asked her to look at the Wests carefully. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys Fatima Rodriguez-When she saw the press conference she noticed it was the same man and woman she saw. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys Fatima Rodriguez-Rodriguez asked Salas if she remembers telling law enforcement she did not see the man and woman’s face. She said no I don’t. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys Fatima Rodriguez-She says she doesn’t remember telling law enforcement there wasn’t enough light and it was hard to see. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys Fatima Rodriguez-She says maybe the Officers misunderstood me or translated it incorrectly. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys Fatima Rodriguez-She says the light came on when they went to the dumpster. She could see them very clearly. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by defense attorney Fatima Rodriguez-Rodriguez asked do you not remember telling officers you could not see their faces and that it was too dark to see and now two years later you are saying you could see them? #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by defense attorney Fatima Rodriguez-She said no I don’t remember that. I remember that day very well. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys, Fatima Rodriguez-She confirmed those DMV photos of Trezell and Jacqueline were the people she saw. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys, Fatima Rodriguez-Rodriguez said at a prior hearing you said the male looked lighter and the female’s face looked fuller. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys, Fatima Rodriguez-She said yeah his face is going to look lighter when it is in the light. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys, Fatima Rodriguez-Rodriguez asked her do you remember telling law enforcement you saw two black people? Maria responded he was black, not her. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys, Fatima Rodriguez-She said I’ll repeat myself, the couple I saw on the news was the couple I saw. I saw them very clearly. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas’s interpreter is translating for her the report of the interview she had with law enforcement January 7, 2020. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys, Fatima Rodriguez-Rodriguez asked why did you lie to law enforcement that you didn’t see the man and woman’s faces and that it was too dark. She said maybe because I was nervous . #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys, Fatima Rodriguez-I felt since that night something wasn’t right and I sensed danger and felt fear. #Westtrial

(Laura Aguirre's testimony follows this.)
My mistake I thought this was a male from the voice and I only heard a last name. This is what I was looking for.
I asked a mod if they could clarify that it was a female witness in my trial posts upthread.
 
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  • #137
I spent a long time trying to get the audio to work. Missed this entirely, I am not sure he was on the audio at all. There was also a man who was a neighbor on the stand who witnessed both TW and JW with a stick and diaper and a cooler at the dumpster in Bakersfield. I missed the first part of this, it sounded interesting.
Do you see those tweets anywhere? This seems to be missing. I wrote what I could about it upthread.
I'm glad to know it wasn't just me. I couldn't find tweets from this morning on KGET either but Bakersfield Now had some. I'm still catching up and need to go back and re-read. It sounds like today was kind of a mess all around. :oops: MOO
 
  • #138
Morning Testimony, Part 2
DAY ELEVEN - April 19, 2023
Twitter - Bakersfield Now

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being is at the stand speaking through at interpreter. She told prosecuting attorney Eric Smith she lives at Casa Loma Apartments on Lotus Lane. She has lived there for 10 years. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being is at the stand speaking through at interpreter. She told prosecuting attorney Eric Smith on September 19, 2020 her daughter left for Massachusetts. Her daughter had lived in Casa Loma Apartments. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being is at the stand speaking through at interpreter. She told prosecuting attorney Eric Smith on September 19, 2020 She was in her apartment, cleaning it up until almost 11PM. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being is at the stand speaking through at interpreter. She told prosecuting attorney Eric Smith on September 19, 2020 she walked out of her daughter’s apartment and saw a couple came out of the dumpster, a man and a woman. #Westtria

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-She said a man and a woman said the man was tall dark skinned, slim. The woman had light skin, curly and wavy and hair down about 6 to 8 inches below her shoulder. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-She saw the couple carrying an ice chest. It was blue with a white lid. They were each holding a handle. Smith asked her how big it was. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-She spread out her hands and said it was about this big. The judge took out a tape measure and said it was 21 inches. They came out of the dumpster and she saw me head on. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-They got on the curb and crossed on the curb in front. They were walking very slowly. They were speaking in English and laughing very loudly. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-When they came out the dumpster area they were by themselves. They walked to a die walk. They stopped and saw her again. They continued walking and went into an apartment. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-They grabbed something, something skinny. The man placed it on his shoulder. They continued walking like they were going to the grass area and then they made a turn. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-When they walked to the grassy area they were by themselves. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-Her daughter lived in building G. The trash can area was near that. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-She is describing the path the man and woman she saw took from the apartment to the dumpster. #Westrrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-She saw the man before that once. He had a stick in one hand and a diaper in another. That time was a month prior to when she saw him with the woman and the ice chest. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by prosecuting attorney, Eric Smith-Smith is showing a police report of Trezell West with his picture. She confirmed that picture was the man he observed, he just didn’t have the mustache that he did in the picture. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by Eric Smith-Smith is showing a police report of Jacqueline West with her picture. She confirmed that picture was the woman she observed, because her beautiful hair stood out to her. It was wavy.#Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by Eric Smith-She spoke about this with a neighbor Laura Aguirre. She called law enforcement and told them about this. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by Eric Smith-She says the couple was by themselves this whole time when she saw them in September. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys Fatima Rodriguez-The people she saw carried a blue cooler with a white lid. She confirmed she never saw them throw something into the dumpster. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys Fatima Rodriguez-What prompted her to look was the noise she heard. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys Fatima Rodriguez-She did an interview with two police officers, one translating on January 7, 2021. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys Fatima Rodriguez-Fatima asked her do you remember telling law enforcement you never saw her face? She said saw her face. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys Fatima Rodriguez-On January 7, 2021, she tells officers her friend Laura Aguirre sent her a link of the West’s press conference outside of their home in California City. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys Fatima Rodriguez-She was going to go out of town and Laura told her these kids were missing and Maria said what kids. Laura asked her to look at the Wests carefully. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys Fatima Rodriguez-When she saw the press conference she noticed it was the same man and woman she saw. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys Fatima Rodriguez-Rodriguez asked Salas if she remembers telling law enforcement she did not see the man and woman’s face. She said no I don’t. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys Fatima Rodriguez-She says she doesn’t remember telling law enforcement there wasn’t enough light and it was hard to see. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys Fatima Rodriguez-She says maybe the Officers misunderstood me or translated it incorrectly. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys Fatima Rodriguez-She says the light came on when they went to the dumpster. She could see them very clearly. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by defense attorney Fatima Rodriguez-Rodriguez asked do you not remember telling officers you could not see their faces and that it was too dark to see and now two years later you are saying you could see them? #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by defense attorney Fatima Rodriguez-She said no I don’t remember that. I remember that day very well. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys, Fatima Rodriguez-She confirmed those DMV photos of Trezell and Jacqueline were the people she saw. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys, Fatima Rodriguez-Rodriguez said at a prior hearing you said the male looked lighter and the female’s face looked fuller. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys, Fatima Rodriguez-She said yeah his face is going to look lighter when it is in the light. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys, Fatima Rodriguez-Rodriguez asked her do you remember telling law enforcement you saw two black people? Maria responded he was black, not her. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys, Fatima Rodriguez-She said I’ll repeat myself, the couple I saw on the news was the couple I saw. I saw them very clearly. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas’s interpreter is translating for her the report of the interview she had with law enforcement January 7, 2020. #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys, Fatima Rodriguez-Rodriguez asked why did you lie to law enforcement that you didn’t see the man and woman’s faces and that it was too dark. She said maybe because I was nervous . #Westtrial

Maria Del Carmen Noriega Salas is being questioned by one of Jacqueline’s attorneys, Fatima Rodriguez-I felt since that night something wasn’t right and I sensed danger and felt fear. #Westtrial

(Laura Aguirre's testimony follows this.)
This is it right here. IMO they put one of the children in a cooler and dumped him in the dumpster on Sept, 20, 2020.
My opinion not fact at the moment. Hope more comes out.
Why would it take 2 of them to carry that cooler?
This woman held her own against Stallings badgering, repeating it was both TW and JW she saw, there was a light.Stallings was trying to trip her up with the Spanish translation of the skin color of the Wests. Not sure if she was trying to imply more about the witnesses statement on color.
 
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APR 19, 2023
While she was visiting, Salas testified she heard a loud noise outside and went to check. She then saw a couple walking away from the dumpster carrying an ice chest and assumed the noise she heard must have been something they’d thrown away.

Salas testified that she called her friend who lived at the apartments, Laura Aguirre. She said she did this because she felt fearful and that it “didn’t sit well with her.”

Aguirre also testified Wednesday, saying that when Salas called her that night, she was panicked and crying. She said she tried to comfort Salas and told her people are always near that dumpster.

The evening wasn’t brought up again until later, when Aguirre said Salas called her claiming she saw the couple on the news regarding Orrin and Orson’s disappearance. Salas testified Wednesday that when she saw Trezell and Jacqueline in the news coverage, she remembered they were the couple she saw back in September. She called the police to tell her was she remembered in January 2021.
 
  • #140
APR 19, 2023
[...]

The defense tried to show Del Carmen’s testimony today was inconsistent with what she said back in 2022 during a police interview.

Rodriguez said, "Do you remember telling law enforcement you never saw her (Jacqueline's) face?" Del Carmen said she saw Jacqueline’s face. Rodriguez asked Del Carmen if she remembered telling law enforcement on January 7, 2021, that there wasn’t enough light to see the man and woman’s faces at the dumpster. She said she doesn’t remember telling them that. She said maybe the translator misunderstood her or translated it incorrectly. She said a light came on at the dumpster and she could see Trezell and Jacqueline very clearly. Rodriguez asked her why she lied to lane enforcement that she didn’t see the man’s and woman’s faces and that it was too dark. Del Carmen said maybe she was nervous.

[...]

Criminalist Alfredo Bayaca testified again. He described to attorneys the pictures he took of Trezell’s van, on December 23, 2020. He looked for blood or signs of foul play in the van, but didn't find any.

Ralph Mosely testified. He's the biological father of Orson, birth name Classic, the younger of the two boys. He said he visited Orson once in 2017 or 2018. He went to California City about three days after he saw on the news the boys were reported missing. He searched for the boys near the house with his wife and close friends. Mosely said he never talked to Trezell and Jacqueline and did not take Orrin and Orson from the Wests.

[...]
 

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