GUILTY CA - Classic (Orson West, 3) & Cincere (Orrin West, 4), still missing, Calif. City, *Mistrial on counts 4 & 5)* 21 Dec 2020 #8

[iamshadow21]

Just wanted to say the child was 10 y/o at the time. Sorry to be picky.

No, you're correct, I just gave his age, now, because though he was ten at the time, I think one of the other kids is ten or almost ten now, and I didn't want there to be confusion about which of the four boys I was talking about. Turns out I just confused in a different way. I could have been clearer.

MOO

 

[cuffem]

No, you're correct, I just gave his age, now, because though he was ten at the time, I think one of the other kids is ten or almost ten now, and I didn't want there to be confusion about which of the four boys I was talking about. Turns out I just confused in a different way. I could have been clearer.

MOO

No worries!
I am happy that the other boys names have been kept out of MSM and that made it hard to keep track of which boy said what so we went by ages.

 

[heartandsoul]

I hope the boys are at peace, wherever they are. These lives, though gone, stay with us and we carry them forward. My heart goes out to all the wider victims of these crimes too. There’s no winners, but there is justice.

 

[iamshadow21]

No worries!
I am happy that the other boys names have been kept out of MSM and that made it hard to keep track of which boy said what so we went by ages.

Makes complete sense, I probably would have worked that out normally but I'm up waaaay past my bedtime. Sun's coming up, I just stayed up to hear the verdict.

I'm happy, and sad. Happy to hear lots of guilty, sad not to hear them for Classic's charges, too. But they weren't 'not guilty' so I hope to hear guilty for those someday soon.

Love you all, and good night.

MOO

 

[Chelly]

While this trial didn't wrap up as neatly as I'd hoped, both parents have been found guilty of second degree murder plus other offenses. They will go to prison and my hope is they will receive the harshest sentences the law will permit. I will remember these sweet boys who never seemed to have a chance at life.

 

[PommyMommy]

West Trial: Adoptive parents found guilty of 5 of 7 charges, including murder

BAKERSFIELD, Calif. (KGET) — Trezell and Jacqueline West, the adoptive parents of two young boys reported missing in 2020, have been found guilty of second-degree murder and other crimes, bri…

www.kget.com

THANK YOU JURY!!! I'm just popping in from work but am grateful and relieved at what I've read so far. #Justice4theboys!

 

[cuffem]

Makes complete sense, I probably would have worked that out normally but I'm up waaaay past my bedtime. Sun's coming up, I just stayed up to hear the verdict.

I'm happy, and sad. Happy to hear lots of guilty, sad not to hear them for Classic's charges, too. But they weren't 'not guilty' so I hope to hear guilty for those someday soon.

Love you all, and good night.

MOO

Thank you for being here from overseas and staying up.

 

[PommyMommy]

I had faith.

Me too!

 

[PommyMommy]

West Trial: Adoptive parents found guilty of 5 of 7 charges, including murder

BAKERSFIELD, Calif. (KGET) — Trezell and Jacqueline West, the adoptive parents of two young boys reported missing in 2020, have been found guilty of second-degree murder and other crimes, bri…

www.kget.com

Noting:

Jurors found the Wests guilty of second-degree murder, involuntary manslaughter and child cruelty regarding Orrin West, 4, but failed to reach verdicts on second-degree murder and conspiracy to commit murder in connection with Orson’s death. A guilty verdict for child cruelty was returned regarding Orson.

Second-degree murder carries a prison term of 15 years to life. The couple was also convicted of falsely reporting an emergency.

Sentencing is set for July 13.

 

[cuffem]

Now we need to hope for a long sentence for both TW and JW.

 

[cuffem]

Noting:

Jurors found the Wests guilty of second-degree murder, involuntary manslaughter and child cruelty regarding Orrin West, 4, but failed to reach verdicts on second-degree murder and conspiracy to commit murder in connection with Orson’s death. A guilty verdict for child cruelty was returned regarding Orson.

Second-degree murder carries a prison term of 15 years to life. The couple was also convicted of falsely reporting an emergency.

Sentencing is set for July 13.

That is what I was looking for, prison terms. Hope with there being multiple counts that it will be more than the minimum sentence.

 

[PommyMommy]

I'm not understanding this (as per link in #750):

Jurors found Trezell guilty of:
-Second-Degree Murder
Jurors did not find a verdict of Trezell in:
-Second-Degree Murder

Jurors found Jacqueline guilty of:
-Second-Degree Murder
Jurors did not find a verdict of Jacqueline in:
-Second-Degree Murder

Does this apply to separate children?

Yes.

Count 1 Second-degree Murder - Orrin
Count 2 Involuntary Manslaughter - Orrin
Count 3 Willful Cruelty to a Child - Orrin
Count 4 Conspiracy to Commit Murder - Orson
Count 5 Second-degree Murder - Orson
Count 6 Willful Cruelty to a Child - Orson
Count 7 False Report to Law Enforcement

 

[Seattle1]

Those two counts for each of them were both in regard to Orrin.

From the quoted link, to be clear:

The jury did not find a verdict for two counts, second-degree murder and conspire to commit a crime. Those counts are in regard to 3-year-old Orson West.

 

[Knox]

While this trial didn't wrap up as neatly as I'd hoped, both parents have been found guilty of second degree murder plus other offenses. They will go to prison and my hope is they will receive the harshest sentences the law will permit. I will remember these sweet boys who never seemed to have a chance at life.

What is the number of years they can potentially receive?

 

[TheLoadedGoat]

Hope the jurors talk. Would love to hear how delibs went.

 

[NuttMegg]

How does that work, 2nd degree murder AND involuntary manslaughter. Seems like it would be one or the other? Or is involuntary manslaughter automatically 2 nd deg. murder in Cal? Was that explained? Geez I hate people who haven't followed a case then helicopter in!

 

[AmandaReckonwith]

So happy for JUSTICE. This has been a good month.

I will update the Case Archive when the articles becoem more clear.

THANKS! to everyone providing links and tweets.

 

[Aloe]

Much appreciation for the Kern county jurors. MOO
Still hoping that the boys can be found. MOO

 

[cuffem]

 

[cuffem]

Hope the jurors talk. Would love to hear how delibs went.

It will be after sentencing July 13th. A gag order is in place until then.