CA CA - Coronado, San Diego Bay, Whtmale, 17-23 UP61812, Aug'80

[Moonwalker9]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

Warning PM

Case Numbers
NCMEC Number--
ME/C Case Number80-1887
Demographics
SexMale
Race / EthnicityWhite / Caucasian
Possible First Name--
Possible Middle Name--
Possible Last Name--
Possible Nickname--
Estimated Age GroupAdult - Pre 30
Estimated Age Range (Years)17-23
Estimated Year of Death1980
Estimated PMI--
Height5' 8"(68 inches) , Measured
Weight172 lbs, Measured
Circumstances
TypeUnidentified Deceased
Date Body FoundAugust 26, 1980
NamUs Case CreatedNovember 27, 2019
ME/C QA Reviewed--
Location Found Map
LocationCoronado, California 92118
CountySan Diego County
GPS Coordinates (Not Mapped)--
Circumstances of RecoveryThe decedent was found in the San Diego Bay
Details of Recovery


Inventory of RemainsAll parts recovered
Condition of RemainsRecognizable face
Physical Description
Hair ColorBrown
Head Hair Description--
Body Hair Description--
Facial Hair Description--
Left Eye ColorBrown
Right Eye ColorBrown
Eye Description--
Distinctive Physical Features
No Information Entered

Clothing and Accessories
Item
Description
Jewelry
The decedent was wearing a nearly triangular shaped earring in his left pierced left ear.
On the Body


This is interesting, found in 1980 a young male wearing earrings dead in water, No info how he died but it's possible he was a transperson? I thought at first he was a female looking at the PM. This case will be interesting to follow,

 

[KaylaraOwl]

Thank you!

 

[KaylaraOwl]

I think he was just wearing an eating in the one ear. I'm going to guess, given the triangle shape, that there's a chance he was gay.

 

[PayrollNerd]

I could be wrong but I am assuming based on my age, this man did not identify as gay back in 1980. At that time, there was a saying regarding earrings in men, "Left is right, right is wrong." It was a way to be understood without being obvious. Not everyone understood the significance, especially the older generation. Having an earring to them simply meant they were odd, much like the "hippies with long hair" in the 1960's. I had friends who wore earrings in their right ear and were not gay men. That said, if he was familiar and accepting to that community, then him being a heterosexual was obvious to them.

I would be curious to know if his other ear was pierced. It does not mention clothing nor does it say he was nude. It is also possible, he was bisexual and chose to present himself differently depending on the situation he was in.

"The decedent was wearing a nearly triangular shaped earring in his left pierced left ear."

 

[Ms. Sleuth]

I have been really searching for this case and I only found one guy that really looks like the photo. 3876DMCA - Michael Charles Causley However, the timing does not match at all and he can be ruled out.
I first went off of the description and found some matches. I did find an individual with his left ear pierced but he went missing after this john doe was found. I have only been looking in California and will begin looking at other states. I am guessing this individual was over 17 and most likely was in college or lived away from home. I do think that it is possible this individual was gay and maybe family did not report him missing or not right away because they did not approve. This case seems very hard to find possibilities too and there is something off about it. I just keep getting a feeling like he was never reported missing, he changed his look, or something. Theres just too many questions.

 

[Ms. Sleuth]

also, the san diego bay is near different historic parks, a main airport, a zoo, and even sea world. I am starting to think this individual traveled to visit someone or something and just never returned. If he was found in the bay he could have been surfing or on a boat. There are endless possibilities here.

 

[MadMcGoo]

Refreshing the thread...

 

[PayrollNerd]

The Hispanic version of Uniting Families has this posted July 14, 2020. It's good to see activity for him.
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[PayrollNerd]

Posted 3/13/2020

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Warning: Post Mortem Photo(s)!

Coronado, San Diego County, California

Unidentified White/Caucasian Male

NamUs #UP61812

Date Found: August 26, 1980

Estimated Age Group
Adult - Pre 30

Estimated Age Range (Years)
17-23

Estimated Year of Death
1980

Estimated PMI
--

Height
5' 8"(68 inches) , Measured

Weight
172 lbs, Measured

Hair Color
Brown

Left Eye Color
Brown

Right Eye Color
Brown

Clothing and Accessories

Jewelry
The decedent was wearing a nearly triangular shaped earring in his left pierced left ear.
-On the Body

Inventory of Remains
All parts recovered

Condition of Remains
Recognizable face

Circumstances of Recovery
The decedent was found in the San Diego Bay

Investigating Agency

ME/C Case Number
80-1887

San Diego Police Department
(619) 531-2000

San Diego County Medical Examiner's Office
(858) 694-2895
Agency Case Number
80-1887
Tessa Lee, Medical Examiner Investigator III

Contact NamUs
The Regional Program Specialist contact for this case is Allison O'Neal
* (817) 372-4169
* [email protected]

NamUs #UP61812

NamUs Case Created
November 27, 2019

GPS Coordinates According to NamUs

32°41'31.4"N 117°11'28.2"W

https://www.namus.gov/UnidentifiedPersons/Case#/61812?nav
https://unidentified.wikia.org/wiki/Coronado_John_Doe
http://theunidentified.forumotion.com/t1108-coronado-john...
https://www.facebook.com/110100133841022/posts/138211761029859/?d=n

 

[PayrollNerd]

32°41'31.4"N 117°11'28.2"W is very near the Naval Base and actually pinpoints a house.

 

[Family_trees]

also, the san diego bay is near different historic parks, a main airport, a zoo, and even sea world. I am starting to think this individual traveled to visit someone or something and just never returned. If he was found in the bay he could have been surfing or on a boat. There are endless possibilities here.

The coronado bridge is a place where people jump off to commit suicide. It's possible he jumped from the bridge.

 

[madamx]

Bumping

 

[victoriarobinson642]

Still no rule outs.

 

[madamx]

Name: Wilson Jay Mickler
Case Classification: Endangered Missing
Missing Since: October 27, 1979
Location Last Seen: St. Augustine, St. Johns County, Florida

Physical Description
Date of Birth: November 29, 1956
Age: 22 years old
Race: White
Gender: Male
Height: 5' 8
Weight: 130 lbs
Hair Color: Unknown
Eye Color: Brown hair and
Nickname/Alias: Unknown
Distinguishing Marks/Features: Marks/Scars: Wilson has scars on his chest, right thigh, abdomen and left cheek.

Identifiers
Dentals: Unknown
Fingerprints: Unknown
DNA: Unknown

Clothing & Personal Items
Clothing: Unknown
Jewelry: Unknown
Additional Personal Items: Unknown

Circumstances of Disappearance
Last seen on October 27, 1979 at the " Green Door " bar off State Road 16 in St. Augustine, Fl.

3853DMFL - Wilson Jay Mickler

I added this guy because his features seemed similar and height is in range . He is a little old but anyway I thought I would add.

 

[HopeRains]

I'm not able to see any specific dental info on this young man in Namus, however looking closely at the pm photo, he appears to possibly be missing his lateral incisors. If so, this is most likely congenital and only within ~ 2% of the population.

The young Doe's teeth and an example of an individual known to be missing lateral incisors.

 

[madamx]

I'm not able to see any specific dental info on this young man in Namus, however looking closely at the pm photo, he appears to possibly be missing his lateral incisors. If so, this is most likely congenital and only within ~ 2% of the population.

View attachment 334353
The young Doe's teeth and an example of an individual known to be missing lateral incisors.

View attachment 334354 View attachment 334355

Oh HopeRains, really good catch and info on the teeth. I did not know that, very interesting. Personally, his teeth reminded me of Eddie Munsters hehehe.

I wish there was a bit more info on this guy.

 

[victoriarobinson642]

bump

 

[victoriarobinson642]

Quick reconstruction. I could have sworn he had one already.

 

[cheemsg]

His page has been modified on NamUs many times this week. Possibly close to making an ID?

 

[Hochman]

Now an NCMEC case

Have you seen this child? John Coronado Doe 1980

Missing From: Coronado, CA. Missing Date: August 26, 1980. On August 26, 1980, the body of an unidentified male was found floating in San Diego Bay, approximately 750 yards northeast of the dead-end of Point Street in Coronado, California. The decedent is believed to be a white male between 15...

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