CA CA - Ember Graham, 7 mos, Happy Valley, 2 Jul 2015 - #3

[cluciano63]

Mybe he told his family he was chasing down a "lead" but he was lying, Imo. He knows exactly what happened to the baby and she wasn't kidnapped.

 

[ninij9]

Every time he talked to his mom on Facebook he said " I love you mamma". Sigh. I so wanted to hate MG. But I just can't. I think he effed up bad while watching her, or maybe she had a bad seizure and died. Then he panicked. I think he loved her so much. On facebook he gave daily updates on Embers procedures and hospital stay. Posted pix of her, explaining everything. Now I'm sad for Ember AND for him. Heartbreaking.

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[MsMarple]

KRCR is leading tonight's news with a long story on the shooting. Reporter Madison Wade said earlier today that she would have more of the family's interview. Rewind to about 26:00 to catch the whole story. I don't know if or when the family interview will air.

http://www.krcrtv.com/krcr-news-channel-7-live-stream/30142008

 

[bluesneakers]

Since we don't have much new and we're speculating - does anyone know where MG's Mom was when he stole the gun, cash, and phone from her?

It must have been nearby but it's been reported she lived in Florida. Was she at a hotel? Staying with relatives? Did he happen to catch her alone, or no one knew she had this stuff on her? Or did they just not help stop him, or defend her? I wish we knew more about this particular incident. I could be totally wrong but I have this feeling maybe he confessed at least part of what he knew to his mom. I'm still on the fence about how I feel in terms of whether he did anything to Ember, and if so whether it was intentional, but I do think he knew what happened.

My gut says she was there.

 

[PLT]

Respectfully, I think we can all agree there is some dysfunction in MG's life. How is analyzing the history of the dysfunction going to help find Ember?

I was mostly trying to fill in some gaps that I had been wondering about such as what led them to be in that trailer, if he had any access to work places, who were in their lives at various times...anyone who they were at odds with... any mention of the place in the video, what led him back to Ember after being estranged. How he treated /acted towards others in his life. Any places that may have been frequented by them like the park. In doing so I just noticed a pattern that indicated to me that he may have been in a downward spiral these past months. His postings were different at various points.

Discussing this will probably not help find Ember - I was trying to form a picture of what was happening over the years. Similar to the discussions about the family's reaction, location of family, judge's decision helping? I don't think that directly helps find Ember either but it is helping form a picture and offer information we wouldn't have thought of without the comments. No, unfortunately I cannot help find Ember - due to my location but wish I could help search. Unless anyone is out there physically searching there is just discussion and taking a look at different angles with the hopes of discovering something that may have been missed or prompting media to focus on certain information.

There are many WS Members who are active SAR experts or volunteer to go out and search and I've seen some take with them the knowledge that they gain here. Example is in one forum (Susan McClean, American missing in Scotland), a member is out there searching almost every day alone - while police have all but given up. Discussion of her frame of mind, family, hobbies, etc have helped her decide on various paths. But as for me, I know I will not find Ember unfortunately.

 

[PLT]

Prado said he started the car for Graham, who drove away, but not before telling the couple not to report the incident until noon or he would “come back” for them.

http://www.redding.com/homepage-sho...d-in-dunsmuir-shootout-with-officers_38935482


I am assuming MG picked a random timeframe that would allow him to get far enough away and ditch their car for another. However, does anyone feel a certain location that requires 6 hours was his goal? Just curious. Also, we discussed if MG truly was following a tip on Ember's location and this interaction for me strengthens my belief that he was not. I think rather than threatening them with harm - he would have said something to the effect of - Sorry to do this but I have to get to my daughter. Tell them I'm innocent and just want to bring her home....something other than he'd come back to get them.

 

[MsMarple]

Sheriff Bosenko discussing the ankle monitor which was removed:

West expressed concern in court that the Sheriff's Office might have persuaded the Probation Department to require Graham to have an ankle monitor.

Sheriff Bosenko quickly said that is by no means the truth. He stated the decision for Graham to wear an ankle monitor came directly from the Probation Department.

On Tuesday, the Public Defender's Office said that ankle monitors are only as good as the people who wear them, meaning if Graham wanted the monitor off then he would have found a way to cut it loose.

Bosenko said if Graham cut off the monitor, they would have know immediately because it notifies the Probation Department.

http://www.krcrtv.com/sheriff-expresses-frustration-over-removal-of-grahams-ankle-monitor/34170502

 

[PLT]

I think MG had a lot of predictable behaviors for the circumstances. If we put our heads together and focus, we might be able to come up with some rather obvious locations he might have taken Ember to. In my mind, all of them would include places he had been to and was fond of. That clear creek bridge would be on my list.

He had familiarity with the homeless encampments and Cypress Bridge . He was assigned that area while on work release. He found human remains that had been there for years according to his SM post. So maybe that came to mind as someplace that most folks don't go (homeless area). He himself ended up near such an encampment but I have no idea if it's the one he had to pickup trash in.

 

[katydid23]

Every time he talked to his mom on Facebook he said " I love you mamma". Sigh. I so wanted to hate MG. But I just can't. I think he effed up bad while watching her, or maybe she had a bad seizure and died. Then he panicked. I think he loved her so much. On facebook he gave daily updates on Embers procedures and hospital stay. Posted pix of her, explaining everything. Now I'm sad for Ember AND for him. Heartbreaking.

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But I think some of that FB stuff was for show. Look at what great Daddy I am. And meanwhile he put her at risk the one night he was in charge of her.

I babysat my 2 month old grand baby for the first time last night. Just for a few hours while her parents went to a wedding reception. Did I go into their kitchen and grab the bottle of Patron and pass out, leaving the vulnerable baby all alone? NO.

So imo, seeing him write those long passages about her difficult medical issues, while seeing how he actually neglected her, makes me ANGRY....not sympathetic towards him. :no:

 

[Willow Knight]

He had familiarity with the homeless encampments and Cypress Bridge . He was assigned that area while on work release. he found human remains that had been their for years according to his SM post. So maybe that came to mind as someplace that most folks don't go (homeless area). he himself ended up near such an encampment but I have no idea if it's the one he had to pickup trash in.

Thank you for your effort. A place familiar to him, and a place somewhat remote. I so want little Ember found.

 

[mrsobrien]

Here we have a great example of WS burn out...time for a break!

 

[Mountain]

Prado said he started the car for Graham, who drove away, but not before telling the couple not to report the incident until noon or he would “come back” for them.

http://www.redding.com/homepage-sho...d-in-dunsmuir-shootout-with-officers_38935482


I am assuming MG picked a random timeframe that would allow him to get far enough away and ditch their car for another. However, does anyone feel a certain location that requires 6 hours was his goal? Just curious. Also, we discussed if MG truly was following a tip on Ember's location and this interaction for me strengthens my belief that he was not. I think rather than threatening them with harm - he would have said something to the effect of - Sorry to do this but I have to get to my daughter. Tell them I'm innocent and just want to bring her home....something other than he'd come back to get them.

Excellent point made here. Bravo!

 

[nikb]

From what I understand, it took place at a hospital. I apologize if that's incorrect.

I thought all that took place later, after she was taken to the hospital?


It goes back to my question, I wish we know if/when/where this all took place.

 

[m_brown]

I thought all that took place later, after she was taken to the hospital?


It goes back to my question, I wish we know if/when/where this all took place.

Yes the whole episode at Mercy is bizarre!


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[nikb]

Hmm so where is the backpack? And what was in it

I know, I wish we know what was in it!

 

[Mountain]

I know, I wish we know what was in it!

LE probably has it and its being processed as evidence in the investigation.

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

They didnt ask any of you for ID? Did they ask her name or anything? It surprises me because they would need to know for liability and legal reasons if nothing else.

I took my little niece to an ER one time and they asked for her name and verified her existence, and her mom met us there.

I had a friend whose daughter was spending the summer with her grandparents and she fell and broke her wrist (age 10) and they couldn't treat her because there wasn't a medical release. They had to call her and have her fax the custody agreement , her id and medical insurance information, and a signed release so they could treat her.. It took several hours and she wasn't happy about it.

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

But I think some of that FB stuff was for show. Look at what great Daddy I am. And meanwhile he put her at risk the one night he was in charge of her.

I babysat my 2 month old grand baby for the first time last night. Just for a few hours while her parents went to a wedding reception. Did I go into their kitchen and grab the bottle of Patron and pass out, leaving the vulnerable baby all alone? NO.

So imo, seeing him write those long passages about her difficult medical issues, while seeing how he actually neglected her, makes me ANGRY....not sympathetic towards him. :no:

Hmm, he doesn't work/ can't keep a job so whose paying for pampers and formula? It doesn't seem like he cares that much about her. He wasn't supporting her or her mama.

 

[PLT]

Is this (bolded info) the hospital location ?

"An officer-safety bulletin says Matthew Graham, after learning new information in the case of his missing baby, Ember, stole a .40-caliber semiautomatic firearm and cash at 1:15 p.m. today from Court and Tehama streets in Redding and fled on foot."

http://www.redding.com/news/local-n...ng-baby-case-take-authorities-to-ono_80945585

 

[Cubby]

I'm going to suggest anyone here who has an ounce of sympathy for MG attend an open AA or NA meeting. MG is a liar who had one focus and once focus only and that was his addiction.

He didn't care about his kids. He didn't care about his wife. Heck, he didn't even care about his parents or other family members.

If he had given a chit about any of it he would have sought help for himself YEARS ago when he first became a parent.

Instead he took the easy way out and continued down his reckless path. Recovery takes WORK and it is clear MG was not interested in putting forth ANY effort to help himself. He was of no help to anyone in his condition and it cost not only himself, but his daughter and the rest of his family.

A horrible lesson but addiction is dangerous. Enabling is dangerous. Denial is dangerous.

Praying he was too stoned to hide her well and she is found soon. I think the best we can hope for is to continue to ask local hikers and other outdoor enthusiasts to keep their eyes out for anything suspicious.

ETA: The reason MG was able to get away with what he has the last several years is by preying on peoples pity and manipulating them into enabling him. Please don't continue to let him do that from the grave.