CA CA - Emmanuel Haro, 7-months, reported kidnapped 7:30pm from Big 5 parking lot, Yucaipa Blvd, Yucaipa, 14 Aug 2025 *Arrest* #3

  • #81
seems to me gbi... great bodily injury enhancement/increased charges should have been applied by prosecution in the case against jh and mother involving the 10 week old child.

my opinion just from reading about Child Endangerment (Penal Code 273a)


jmo as a nonlawyer
 
  • #82
I’ve wondered if he possibly gave info regarding another case or illegal activity nothing to support this, just the shady of the family I feel like there is probably stuff there
 
  • #83
Just finally getting a chance to see where he was with the police - man that seems impossible to sort through to find such tiny bones (ugh)
 
  • #84
Yup that seems correct. Violence on a child was not listed as a violent crime. Somehow that doesn't seem right.
Under Penal Code section 667.5(c), the following crimes are violent felonies: Murder, attempted murder, and voluntary manslaughter; mayhem
Sbm

I understand, because I’m a lifelong New Yorker and the laws are very loose here as well.

But really, what is it when you beat a ten-week old out of 97% of her capacity to live, if not attempted murder? Or mayhem at the least?


JMO
 
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  • #85
Please let today be the day Emmanuel is found. While we know he’s gone, his little body needs to be laid to rest.
 
  • #86
I"m confused.
Why do do many main stream media outlets say RH was arrested on "suspicion of murder" when it's written here that she's charged with "murder w /malice"?
Isn't that apples and oranges?
imo

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Main stream media isn’t going to use the pc code and she has not been convicted so it’s still suspicion of murder. Pc 187a is murder w Malice aforethought it’s just the exact pc code she was charged w and all jail systems use an abbreviated descriptor
 
  • #87
Sbm

I understand, because I’m a lifelong New Yorker and the laws are very loose here as well.

But really, what is it when you beat a ten-week old out of 97% of her capacity to live, if not attempted murder? Or mayhem at the least?


JMO
Unfortunately it was prob a plea deal. He was likely charged w pc 664/187 originally (attempted murder)
 
  • #88
Please let today be the day Emmanuel is found. While we know he’s gone, his little body needs to be laid to rest.

Not to be gruesome, but this time of year, I doubt he will be found.

But, I have always been surprised when bodies, well hidden, are found. One was Caylee Anthony, tossed deep into literally a swamp area off a road, and Ray Kronk decides to stop at that area, and identified something like remains. There was another body found, that was absolutely surprising, Quinton Simon, found in a landfill.

I believe, sometimes, there is some sort of compelling spirit that leads the person to find the body. Because it seems so inexplicable. Something beyond our realm.
 
  • #89
Any word if they went back out today, i see there is a caution on maps af 60 and world logistics center pkwy.
 
  • #90
Any word if they went back out today, i see there is a caution on maps af 60 and world logistics center pkwy.
I've been looking. If they are LE is keeping it way under wraps.
 
  • #91
"Jailhouse declaration of mom
accused of murdering baby Emmanuel Haro
- as she still insists he was abducted.

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Rebecca Haro
still insists she is telling the truth
and claims wants to be out searching for her son.

'I will not give up.
I will not give up on my baby',
she said.

Rebecca Haro also insisted
she had a great relationship with her husband and 'he’s a good dad'.

'He would never hurt a baby,'
despite his child abuse conviction,
she said."

 
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  • #92
Whoa, I had to look it up, and I still cannot fathom how destroying your very own ten-week old baby girl can in any way, shape, form or manner be considered non-violent, which is what I see here in Prop. 57 California.

Non-violent offenders.


IMO he’s the definition of violent.
He's a wrecking ball in the presence of unprotected children. And a judge agreed with a plea deal to set that wrecking ball free to do it all again after his near-complete destruction of a 10-week old infant in his care.

Whatever the complicity of JH's then-wife and that baby's mother, SHE was the one who cared enough about the life of that baby to get her to a hospital when she refused to feed (unlike in this case when both parents staged an abduction). That would have weighed heavily in my mind as to which of the two parents bore primary responsibility for the disabling injuries were I that DA negotiating a plea deal or a judge considering whether to make it official. No deal. Let a jury hear the case.
 
  • #93
DBM
 
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  • #94
  • #95
Rebecca Haro also insisted
she had a great relationship with her husband and 'he’s a good dad'.

'He would never hurt a baby,'
despite his child abuse conviction,
she said."
SBM

Um, someone is either living in a fantasy world, or else, what’s that word?
Oh, yeah….lying.

I’m not very good at math, but I count at least two babies with whom JH lived who are either dead, or dead for all intents and purposes. Oh right, they were both also his children. Gee, how “coincidental.”

Wake up, RH, stop hiding, stop covering, and tell the truth now, if you have even one maternal cell in your body.

JMO
 
  • #96
If the genders were reversed R wouldn’t be getting this much sympathy.
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It's reasonable, imo, to think the parent with a known history of beating a baby is more violent than the other, but that's not the same as being sympathetic to a mom charged with murder.

They are BOTH charged with murder and, as far as I've noticed, people comprehend that.

jmopinion
 
  • #97
Are there any volunteer groups like Texas Equusearch out searching?
 
  • #98
Are there any volunteer groups like Texas Equusearch out searching?
I haven't seen that they are and Emmanuel is not listed on their website.
 
  • #99
I wonder what they are using to determine what is a non violent crime. I know when they passed Prop 57 here in California there was a lot of uproar over what was considered a non violent crime when it came to early release because the list of what is considered a violent crime by the CPC is limited to certain crimes. If they are going by CPC, what he was charged with wouldn't be considered a violent offense I believe.

Yup that seems correct. Violence on a child was not listed as a violent crime. Somehow that doesn't seem right.
Under Penal Code section 667.5(c), the following crimes are violent felonies: Murder, attempted murder, and voluntary manslaughter; mayhem; forced sex acts or sex acts with a minor or a dependent person; all felonies punishable by death or life in prison; most felonies that result in great bodily injury to a victim; robbery; arson; malicious detonation of destructive devices or explosives with intent or that causes the death, mayhem, or great bodily injury to another; assault with intent to commit a forced sex act on another or a sex act on a minor; assault with a firearm on a peace officer or firefighter; kidnapping; extortion or criminal threats done for the benefit of a street gang; carjacking; first degree burglary when another person (other than accomplice) was present; possession, use, or production of weapons of mass destruction.
Violent Crimes | Orange County Criminal Defense Lawyer William Weinberg

I'm going to blame the prosecutor for putting together the deal. I'm sure the initial charges were accurate to the crime but they agreed to lesser charges so he would plead guilty and get the case over with. There was no one to advocate for Promise and demand that the parents be charged appropriately.
 
  • #100
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