CA CA - Emmanuel Haro, 7-months, reported kidnapped 7:30pm from Big 5 parking lot, Yucaipa Blvd, Yucaipa, 14 Aug 2025 *Arrest* #3

  • #201
If LE think that JH killed Emmanuel, it's smart to take him out to search, for the optics. Now they can tell RH he's cooperating and he's going to pin it on her if she doesn't tell the truth, and show her pictures of him "helping" with the search.

I'm not sure if it's ok to mention, but RH's mother has several public FB pages, and one has a picture of Emmanuel as a younger baby, from March of this year. The only other pics she has of him are the ones that have been shared by LE, which strikes me as odd. Are there no other pics of this kid?

It reminds me so much of the West boys. Zip pictures. Geez, I take 25 pictures of my cat a day. My friend takes 100 pictures of her dog a day, if not more.

Contrast with the beautiful pictures of the Iskander boys, murdered by drunk Rebecca Grossman. There were literally 100's of pictures of those boys, playing, at school, in the yard, eating dinner, all happy, laughing.

Here, we have barely any pictures. 2 or 3?! Seriously?! Nothing with toys, in a high chair, playing...smiling...
 
  • #202
have there been any news report identifying rh's defense attorney.

was she just given legal counsel only during questioning by law enforcement... and must be arraigned before an attorney is 'officially' appointed. i have no idea if this is even possible nor close to the way it works.


jmo
 
  • #203
I do remember hearing in one of the news reports she was the mother of five. I'm thinking they were only referring to bio children. So 2 adult children, 16 year old and the 2 little ones?
No disrespect towards you but calling her a mother is a bit of a stretch for me!
 
  • #204
No disrespect towards you but calling her a mother is a bit of a stretch for me!
Yeah slip of the typing!!! I'm with you.
 
  • #205
I honestly don't understand why she hasn't started talking yet. I wonder if she has had some kind of psychotic break?
 
  • #206
I honestly don't understand why she hasn't started talking yet. I wonder if she has had some kind of psychotic break?

It's definitely some cognitive dissonance going on with her but maybe some of her fellow inmates can talk some sense into her.
 
  • #207
MOO IMO We are discussing the reasoning skills of someone who chose to marry a convicted child abuser, an infant abuser, no less. She was able to somehow, in her own mind, delude herself into believing those crimes were not real, or that the violent nature of such a man before her would not affect her once with him. The delusion runs deep in this individual I am not at all surprised that she is sticking to her ridiculous story.

Is it wise? Absolutely not. But then, many of her life choices do not appear to me to be maternal or wise so why would anyone expect her to suddenly begin making wise choices? It's not as if she has a history or practice in doing so. JMO
 
  • #208
I honestly don't understand why she hasn't started talking yet. I wonder if she has had some kind of psychotic break?
I think her husband coached her ahead of time. "Listen to me, not to a public defender or LE. I've been through this and can get us off. Just stick to the story and they can't get us."

Meanwhile, he has his own plans, imo.

jmopinion
 
  • #209
MOO IMO We are discussing the reasoning skills of someone who chose to marry a convicted child abuser, an infant abuser, no less. She was able to somehow, in her own mind, delude herself into believing those crimes were not real, or that the violent nature of such a man before her would not affect her once with him. The delusion runs deep in this individual I am not at all surprised that she is sticking to her ridiculous story.

Is it wise? Absolutely not. But then, many of her life choices do not appear to me to be maternal or wise so why would anyone expect her to suddenly begin making wise choices? It's not as if she has a history or practice in doing so. JMO

👏 say it louder!


I would just add that she either chose to marry because she convinced herself to believe or - give her current involvement, maybe she didn’t care. We really don’t know yet
 
  • #210
No updates from court watchers yet?
 
  • #211
  • #212
I’m still team they took him to a spot where their phones were
If the Sheriffs are saying he didn’t provide assistance, your theory makes complete sense. Can LE just take prisoners on a field trip without their consent to further the investigation when they’re in custody? I don’t know the answer to that. Can’t think of a law it would violate, though this is far outside my area of expertise.
 
  • #213
Hearing is at 1:30 PT according to the source linked above.
 
  • #214

This article states their court date is tomorrow, which makes sense. Although, Jake Haro, being on probation, and having a weapons charge, means that they can just throw him back in jail or prison to complete his time on the former child abuse charge. He doesn't even need to be seen by a judge. AFAIK.
He gets a hearing on the probation violation, but yes, that will be an easy way to lock him up for a few years once the hearing happens.
 
  • #215
How is this clear? It does not imply that he admitted anything at all, just that they dragged his sorry self out there for whatever LE reasons.

ETA: There are many reasons, GPS on phone or truck, someone that knows his truck spotted it on the side of the road, cameras that caught his truck to a certain point, that LE Might drag him out there. It doesn't mean he admitted anything at all. (it could, but doesn't have to be)
Hopefully investigators will use the video of JH with searchers to get RH to talk.
 
  • #216
If the Sheriffs are saying he didn’t provide assistance, your theory makes complete sense. Can LE just take prisoners on a field trip without their consent to further the investigation when they’re in custody? I don’t know the answer to that. Can’t think of a law it would violate, though this is far outside my area of expertise.

I would think they cannot talk investigation without attorney but it didn’t do anything negative for him to agree to go if he didn’t talk. May even appear as if he is going along is cooperating because he doesn’t know where Emmanuel is?
 
  • #217
This was reported a few days ago, making most us do Kid Math trying to figure out how many minors these monsters have actually been in charge of.
They've been in charge of too many
 
  • #218
I believe you are mixing up my post with someone else’s.

I’ve never said at any time that JH admitted to anything.

I simply posted from MSM that the sheriff’s department made a statement after the day’s search, simply stating that JH was with them at the search, but did not help them search.

That was what I said was clear—-JH was merely present but apparently did not offer any clues on finding Emmanuel, according to the article.
I see. I was going by the post quoted in your post where the poster said "Are we sure he admitted it and you replied, "Yes, I posted it earlier". It implied that he HAD in fact admitted something, but I now see you were only referring to the part about sheriffs not confirming that Jake was assisting (which strangely is not the same as confirming he was not assisting) and not the whole post.

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  • #219
If the Sheriffs are saying he didn’t provide assistance, your theory makes complete sense. Can LE just take prisoners on a field trip without their consent to further the investigation when they’re in custody? I don’t know the answer to that. Can’t think of a law it would violate, though this is far outside my area of expertise.

If you are in custody, I don't think you have many rights. They literally lock you up and cuff you if you leave the building.
 
  • #220
Regarding Rebecca sticking to her story, I’m reminded of the defense strategy: “Deny, deny, deny. And when presented with incontrovertible evidence, deny.” Doesn’t benefit her to change her story unless there is a deal on the table (though not talking at all would be wisest).

That said, if they suspect Jake, there likely is a favorable deal on the table. The first one to talk gets the deal generally, but that doesn’t mean they would just let the first to talk go free as some have suggested. And they won’t let him plead to something they don’t believe to be true. If they think Jake did it and Jake talked by blaming Rebecca, they’re not going to put him on the stand to lie and convict the wrong person.

Always important caveat: That’s in theory. I had a case where the prosecutors gave a deal to a co-defendant where he pled guilty to a conspiracy with our client, when he had previously signed a declaration that was submitted to the judge in the case, saying in substance that there was no conspiracy with our client. He never admitted to perjury with respect to the declaration, and the prosecution put him on the stand at our client’s trial to testify against him. I remember being dumbfounded at the time about how the prosecution thought that would play out. My recollection is he somehow just agreed with both the prosecutor and defense counsel when he was on the stand. Anyway, our client was acquitted.
 
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