CA CA - Emmanuel Haro, 7-months, reported kidnapped 7:30pm from Big 5 parking lot, Yucaipa Blvd, Yucaipa, 14 Aug 2025

[AuDHD]

JMO but the second it’s clear I’m a suspect I’m asking for a lawyer. They can provide guidance on what questions you should answer, what LE are and aren’t allowed to ask, and so on.

 

[BlaiseFinlay]

My mom and I were just talking about this...it seems like parents who don't make up an abduction to cover up a child's murder actually seem to get away with it for a longer period of time than those who do. I think most people like to think that they're smarter than the police and that they'll be able to get away with their fabricated story.

People are so focused on trying to not look guilty, they often forget that appearances don’t matter in the end. This is why lawyers will advise any target of an investigation to not talk. Everyone will think you did it, but you have the best chance of avoiding jail. I can’t imagine the fortitude it takes to take such an action from the outset, though, knowing you’re immediately making yourself the prime suspect.

 

[ttjo]

While in this case it probably does add to the suspicion here, I just want to come out generally in defense of people who refuse lie detector tests or ask for a lawyer.

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I could not agree more with everything you have said. That was a very thoughtful explanation.
I also wanted to clarify the difference between people thinking she flat out refused to take a lie detector test vs her being instructed ( by her husband) not to take one until they had a lawyer. It paints a slightly different picture.

 

[mickey2942]

JMO but the second it’s clear I’m a suspect I’m asking for a lawyer. They can provide guidance on what questions you should answer, what LE are and aren’t allowed to ask, and so on.

My personal perspective as a POI in a case, was that I had no problem answering all of the questions, to make it clear I wasn't the person involved in the situation. I took a lie detector test, and failed it. No problem, I still did not get an attorney because I knew I was telling the truth.

It is surreal to be questioned by police. Knowing you have nothing to do with the incident. But police do what they do, including being "deceptive", to entice a confession. At that point in time, I left, and refused to speak with police again.

Sometimes, it is painfully obvious that when the police have no leads, they logically start with the simplest and easiest way to solve a case.

 

[musicaljoke]

I've changed babies in cars and you're standing in the door and your body is blocking out a lot of what can be seen, so I'm wondering and it doesn't make sense. So E 's car seat is in the middle ? and she places him on the seat by the door and is rummaging around getting diaper etc and her body would be kind of shielded by the car door and no baby really seen , but she's knocked unconscious and someone reached over her body on the ground grabs a baby and takes off...

Do we know that E's car seat is in the middle? They also have a two yr old, so there must be at least two car seats in the back of the car. I haven't tried putting a car seat in the middle, but it seems like it would be difficult. Is there even a place to hook it to the car?

In any case. it would be difficult to change a baby in the back of a vehicle with two car seats.

 

[alucardsdream]

People are so focused on trying to not look guilty, they often forget that appearances don’t matter in the end. This is why lawyers will advise any target of an investigation to not talk. Everyone will think you did it, but you have the best chance of avoiding jail. I can’t imagine the fortitude it takes to take such an action from the outset, though, knowing you’re immediately making yourself the prime suspect.

I always tell my clients not to talk but of course that means that they will immediately be found guilty when it comes to trial by media. Some people just really think that they are going to be able to outsmart the police.

 

[ttjo]

I generally agree with everything here. My father was a police officer and he said never to talk to the police without a lawyer. And I would normally NEVER take a polygraph test.

But as a parent, I think if my child was missing all that would go out the window. For me, at least. I know it's not smart, but I imagine I would be so desperate to have my kid back that I'd do anything, answer any question, if I knew I had done nothing wrong.

ditto, Ive never had to take one, but I only hesitate b/c Id be afraid it would be misinterpreted. dont they measure emotions , heart rate etc. My heart would be off the charts if my kid was missing.

 

[Bahshudc]

- Was the black eye from before or after the alleged attack?
- Did she request or refuse an examination for her head wound?

These questions would either verify or debunk her account for sure. MOO

 

[Knox]

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[squareandrabbet]

- Was the black eye from before or after the alleged attack?
- Did she request or refuse an examination for her head wound?

These questions would either verify or debunk her account for sure. MOO

In one of the news videos linked on prior pages, she says the attack is what gave/earned her the black eye.

We don't know either way about the head examination.

 

[Mandy9824]

Devils Advocate:
I’m new here but I live in the IE and this has been everywhere.
I want to start out by saying I honestly believe the family is involved with Emmanuel’s disappearance and they deserve the full extent of the law pressed down on them if this is true.
Is it possible the baby may have died of SIDS in the night, the parents panicked. They could have assumed if they were to call for medical/police that because of the fathers previous charges that they would not be believed and would be blamed for the child’s death… Then proceeded to hide or get rid of his body and make up this elaborate story to cover up the fact that they disposed of the body. This could explain why they seem so off, disassociated, and like they are hiding something. They feel guilty like his death is their fault and did not want to be blamed. He looks like he had a few medical/physical issues and it’s not out of the realm of possibility that he could have just passed away in his sleep.
I’m not saying this is what happened but it’s a possibility. Don’t come for me just another POV. Either way if they were involved in disposing of him they deserve to be held accountable for their actions. I just hope this case comes to a resolve soon because I have a 2 month old and this situation absolutely terrifies me.

JMO

 

[bearfossils]

There is something about her story that has been bugging me all day and that's when she says the kidnapper says "Hola" to her. Hola in Spanish means "Hello",so why would someone with intentions on snatching a child come up behind you and say hello? You would think a kidnapper wouldn't be that stupid,they would come up behind you quietly and then attack from behind. That part of her story smells really rotten.

This has nagged at me as well and feels very much like the stereotypical “violent non-white stranger is responsible” lie that is endemic to a number of false abduction stories.

That, combined with the wealth of other inconsistencies in parents’ narrative and available information, only further the thought that this supposed abduction is going to end in a very familiar but heartbreaking conclusion.

 

[Chimera]

Devils Advocate:
I’m new here but I live in the IE and this has been everywhere.
I want to start out by saying I honestly believe the family is involved with Emmanuel’s disappearance and they deserve the full extent of the law pressed down on them if this is true.
Is it possible the baby may have died of SIDS in the night, the parents panicked. They could have assumed if they were to call for medical/police that because of the fathers previous charges that they would not be believed and would be blamed for the child’s death… Then proceeded to hide or get rid of his body and make up this elaborate story to cover up the fact that they disposed of the body. This could explain why they seem so off, disassociated, and like they are hiding something. They feel guilty like his death is their fault and did not want to be blamed. He looks like he had a few medical/physical issues and it’s not out of the realm of possibility that he could have just passed away in his sleep.
I’m not saying this is what happened but it’s a possibility. Don’t come for me just another POV. Either way if they were involved in disposing of him they deserve to be held accountable for their actions. I just hope this case comes to a resolve soon because I have a 2 month old and this situation absolutely terrifies me.

JMO

Hmmm... hadn't thought about that.
But still the act required of concealment is a big problem for me and most likely LE.
Agreed about hoping it's resolved soon, even if the answers are heartbreaking.

And ... Welcome to Websleuths !

Sorry it's under such a sad case.
Child cases are so scary and often end up badly.
I think I was drawn to this case by the odd story from the parents.
Imo.

 

[Knox]

On Aug. 14, Rebecca Haro, the boy’s mother, initially told investigators that she left her husband, Jake Mitchell Haro, and their other two children at a local park where one of the boys was having football practice to go purchase a mouthguard for him.

“I came over here and parked right on the edge,” she told KTLA. “When I was driving over, I smelled the baby had went to the restroom, so I said, ‘Don’t worry, we are going to change you.’”

After parking, Rebecca claims she laid the baby down next to the car seat to change his diaper. The last thing she said she remembers was hearing a stranger’s voice before she was attacked.

“I was going to get the diaper and somebody said, ‘Hola,’ and I don’t remember anything since,” she recalled in tears. “I woke up here on the floor and I didn’t see Emmanuel.”

https://ktla.com/news/local-news/father-of-toddler-missing-in-california-has-felony-child-cruelty-conviction/

 

[Chimera]

This has nagged at me as well and feels very much like the stereotypical “violent non-white stranger is responsible” lie that is endemic to a number of false abduction stories.

That, combined with the wealth of other inconsistencies in parents’ narrative and available information, only further the thought that this supposed abduction is going to end in a very familiar but heartbreaking conclusion to this case.

Agreed.
And didn't Susan Smith blame a black man ?
The anger about her lies has not dimmed over time.

Somehow wishing little Emmanuel could be located safely -- but this case was so hinky from the get go !!!
Imo.

 

[Knox]

Devils Advocate:
I’m new here but I live in the IE and this has been everywhere.
I want to start out by saying I honestly believe the family is involved with Emmanuel’s disappearance and they deserve the full extent of the law pressed down on them if this is true.
Is it possible the baby may have died of SIDS in the night, the parents panicked. They could have assumed if they were to call for medical/police that because of the fathers previous charges that they would not be believed and would be blamed for the child’s death… Then proceeded to hide or get rid of his body and make up this elaborate story to cover up the fact that they disposed of the body. This could explain why they seem so off, disassociated, and like they are hiding something. They feel guilty like his death is their fault and did not want to be blamed. He looks like he had a few medical/physical issues and it’s not out of the realm of possibility that he could have just passed away in his sleep.
I’m not saying this is what happened but it’s a possibility. Don’t come for me just another POV. Either way if they were involved in disposing of him they deserve to be held accountable for their actions. I just hope this case comes to a resolve soon because I have a 2 month old and this situation absolutely terrifies me.

JMO

Cleveland Clinic
https://my.clevelandclinic.org › health › diseases › 136...
SIDS (Sudden Infant Death Syndrome)
Most babies who die of SIDS are between 2 and 4 months old, and 90% are younger than 6 months old.

Good thought and there's no way to exclude that possibility at this point in the investigation. As a matter of fact, it could be a great defense if they are arrested and Emannual's body is not able to be found (think landfill search). MOO.

 

[Regal Beagle]

Ahhh mannnnn

I hate that my hinky meter is sky high right now. The mama does seem to have a black eye, though if what she said is correct and someone come from behind whilst she was facing into her car changing the baba, then surely he must have had to drag her out, spin her round and wallop her in face THEN lean in the car himself and grab a half changed baby out of the backseat? Then what, just ran off with him or got into a car? Surely there will have been commotion and noise from the mama? Surely there are cameras in a supermarket carpark, the shop itself, road alongside or neighbouring shops?
I'm wondering how old the other children are who travelled to the shop with them - they could confirm if their baby brother was with them?
Gosh.
I mean even for us here in this world of crime and horror we choose to sail around, it's pretty damn rare for a daylight stranger baby abduction from a hugely public car park whilst the mama is present isn't it?!

Poor little Emmanuel, I hope in my heart that he's safe, fed and clean although in my head, with this story, I very much doubt it

The devil is in the details..

 

[ttjo]

On Aug. 14, Rebecca Haro, the boy’s mother, initially told investigators that she left her husband, Jake Mitchell Haro, and their other two children at a local park where one of the boys was having football practice to go purchase a mouthguard for him.

it sounded weird at first to hear her say " their other 2 children " when there are 5 kids, ( 3 are his) maybe over analyzing because I am epecting the next surprise to be that the other child wasnt at the game either. too easy for him to confirm or deny stories, risky to bring him along unless like someone. said earlier the baby presented as sleeping.

 

[Mandy9824]

Cleveland Clinic
https://my.clevelandclinic.org › health › diseases › 136...
SIDS (Sudden Infant Death Syndrome)
Most babies who die of SIDS are between 2 and 4 months old, and 90% are younger than 6 months old.

Good thought and there's no way to exclude that possibility at this point in the investigation. As a matter of fact, it could be a great defense if they are arrested and Emannual's body is not able to be found (think landfill search). MOO.

I agree 100% Either way if they were involved in the disposal they will most definitely face a load of charges from LE. Failure to seek medical services, unlawful disposal of a body, concealing an accidental death, obstruction of justice, tampering with evidence, etc….

 

[bearfossils]

Agreed.
And didn't Susan Smith blame a black man ?
The anger about her lies has not dimmed over time.

Somehow wishing little Emmanuel could be located safely -- but this case was so hinky from the get go !!!
Imo.

Oh yes: Susan is very much a go-to example, blaming a black man on suddenly carjacking her while she was taking a supposedly leisurely drive with her children, much like Diane Downs, another woman who claimed her children were some how fatally, or near fatally, assaulted during a random crime that happened while driving in the middle of nowhere.

It’s long been a standard diversion for mothers who murder their own children: blame the scary unknown and violent male who is usually a minority. It plays into racial and economic tensions, strokes feverish lizard-brain beliefs, triggers erroneous emotional responses, and distracts from the truth that most people don’t want to believe: that parents are not just capable of, but frequently responsible for, homicidal violence against their own children.