GUILTY CA - Erin Corwin, 19, pregnant, Twentynine Palms, 28 June 2014 - #1

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This is just a guess but, if an "incident" occurs on base the military police would usually take the lead. So it seems they feel confident that the "incident" occurred in town.
 
This is just a guess but, if an "incident" occurs on base the military police would usually take the lead. So it seems they feel confident that the "incident" occurred in town.

This is an interesting observation...:waitasec:
 
military.com is owned by Monster - a publicly-traded company on the NYSE. So, no.
defense.gov is the official news site run by the DoD. Most military sites affiliated with the DoD end on .gov or .mil.

Yes, agree with this.
 
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Erin Corwin (19 yrs.) A young wife of a United States Marine Corporal, and expectant mother who is three months pregnant, vanished Saturday (6/28/2014) after 7:00 a.m. from her home on the military base located at Twentynine Palms, California under suspicious circumstances. She left the base en-route to Joshua Tree National Park in her 2013 blue Toyota Corolla and hasn't been seen or heard from since. The car was found in Twentynine Palms near the military base on Monday. There was no indication of her direction of travel or current whereabouts. Her phone has been unresponsive since Saturday and Facebook messages, text messages, and voice mails have not been returned.

The Sheriff’s Department along with volunteers and search and rescue teams have been unable to locate Erin Corwin and have asked the public for help in finding her.

In addition to information about Erin, family and friends are requesting prayers for her safety, and safe return!

Erin Corwin is described as a Caucasian female, 5'2" tall, 120 lbs, has a small stature, with light brown hair and blue eyes.

When she disappeared, Corwin was preparing for a visit from her mother who was coming to visit from out of state for Erin's 20th birthday on July 15, 2014. Corwin was going to the Joshua Tree National Park to see if it would be a good place for a family outing during a planned visit with her mother. Previous to her move to Twentynine Palms, CA, Erin Corwin lived with her parents in her hometown of Oak Ridge, Tennessee, while her husband was overseas. Corwin, who spent her free time volunteering for a nearby horse rescue, had never lived farther than a mile from her parents, with whom she has a close relationship. They had bought tickets to Sea World, planned a trip to the San Diego Zoo and the young woman had stocked her freezer with extra food for her guest.

If you have seen Erin Corwin, know of her whereabouts, or have information possibly regarding this case, contact San Bernardino County Sheriff’s Specialized Investigations Division-Homicide Detail at 909-387-3589, or Sheriff’s dispatch at 909-387-8313, right away!

Tipsters wishing to remain anonymous may also call the We-Tip Hotline at 1-800-78-CRIME (782-7463) or leave information at http://www.wetip.com/

The Facebook page set up by Erin's friends and family is located here: https://www.facebook.com/LocateErin

High-resolution printable flier located here: http://missingcases.com/fliers/Erin Corwin/poster.jpg

https://www.facebook.com/missingcas...2865135400495/866049833415352/?type=1&theater
 
The military won't allow a marine (stationed on a base at home) whose wife disappeared to assist her mother with handling media interviews? When someone disappears, you should be counting down the time in hours. Whether it's 48 or a few more, time is running out. I don't think the people arguing that public attention is unnecessary are putting themselves in the situation (and maybe they would argue that's a good thing, lol). The police have said they are treating the case like a "missing persons" case, yet they've also called in homicide investigators. A Facebook page was set up to ask the entire world to comment, and the Admins there are almost at the predictable stage where they're deleting more comments than they're allowing ("We did NOT set up this Facebook page so you people could come here and COMMENT. We set it up to tell you NOT to comment. I almost wish we hadn't set it up at all! Your speculation is ruining it for everyone"). There's the same old debate between advocating total secrecy and REALLY asking (making?) everyone who saw Erin last to PUBLICLY lay out what they saw. I believe the latter option is the best way to find a missing person. If someone close to the missing person is not responsible, it's still the best way to establish a timeline. Someone on the "Locate Erin" page keeps mentioning the old "the police don't want to jeopardize the case" line. However, exactly what is the priority? I'd be looking for my loved one first, and right now I wouldn't be so worried about the integrity of the case.

Unfortunately, I haven't seen a case where people are encouraged to be publicly open (I don't mean evidentiary details, but human observations). Maybe there's no way to force it. There's a language barrier, and I also think the way the most law enforcement agencies work needs to evolve. There are always nonsensical contradictions like the ones I mentioned. The only case where something close to true openness and crowdsourcing of ideas was utilized that I've seen recently was the Leanne Bearden case, which was a suicide. The police (correctly) said they DIDN'T suspect foul play, so there should have been no debate about letting the police "do their jobs." There was still a minor debate about it, incredibly. The husband, Josh, LOOKED kind of suspicious-y, but he stayed out there on Facebook answering questions and taking the hits until she was found in a nearby yard. Information was still missing about Leanne's activity leading up to her suicide. I believe her body could have been found sooner. After asking questions, we were told that she had grabbed JOSH'S backpack on her way out for a walk, for example. Also, he said his backpack was almost empty, and she exited through the garage (she clearly took a rope or something similar with her). Of course, I'm NOT NOT NOT suggesting ANYBODY knew what she was going to do, but only that the time frame leading up to her leaving the home was not covered in enough detail initially, perhaps for several possible reasons. Mostly, people are not told how important that interval of time is to figuring out what happened.

My point: More often than not, expecting people to be open in a public manner about what they heard and saw leading up to a disappearance certainly does not impede the effort of the police. If a police department asks people close to a missing person not to speak to the public, they'd better solve the case soon or expect a lot of deserved criticism. Otherwise, how do they KNOW which approach would have been more effective? If they aren't sure, why not do everything possible?

Her husband is a government official first, civilian second. No one in the military is allowed to talk to the media without 1) permission and 2) a vetted statement. It's just the way it is because the media tends to skew every statement made. They want to be sure there is not going to be a ripple effect or unforeseen repercussions.
 
Has this been discussed yet?
In this article, Erin's sister-in-law mentions how Erin likes photography and that her husband had gotten her a really nice camera.
http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/...woman-with-Chattanooga-ties-missing-in/?local
I wonder if Erin took the camera with her?
IMOO.

No, that's a new article.

Corwin, who has grandparents in Chattanooga, never lived farther than a mile from her parents before moving west in the fall, her sister-in-law DeeAnna Heavilin said Friday.

"She's just a really sweet girl, very close with her mom and family in general," Heavilin said. "She really likes photography. Her husband had gotten her a really nice camera."

Horses are another of Erin Corwin's passions. After working with horses in Tennessee, she connected with a horse rescue organization and spent time working there after arriving in California, Heavilin said. Her 20th birthday is July 15.

"This is something you have nightmares about whenever your kids move across the country because you can't get there, and you don't know their friends and they're somewhere where you can't touch them," Heavilin said. "It's what every parent's nightmare is made of and it's really heartbreaking that it's happening to our little family."
 
Her missing poster makes it pretty clear they haven't found her cell phone, despite the two articles indicating it was found in 29 Palms.

edited to add: Jonathan's aunt is posting in support on the Locate Erin facebook page this morning.
 
On her Facebook group page, it specifically says LE has instructed friends/family not to form search groups for her. That's odd.
 
IMO, LE doesn't want evidence tampered with, a potential suspect messing with evidence, and lastly, they really don't want family and friends to find the body of a loved one.
 
IMO, LE doesn't want evidence tampered with, a potential suspect messing with evidence, and lastly, they really don't want family and friends to find the body of a loved one.

It's atypical to not allow the community to organize volunteer search efforts, though.
 
I've seen no pics of any searches or LE vehicles around that area. We sometimes see that. Does anybody know of any media that's getting close to the search areas? If not, are they also being warned off?

On the military having to approve things from husband, they've had enough time to tell him what he can say...IMO!
 
I've seen no pics of any searches or LE vehicles around that area. We sometimes see that. Does anybody know of any media that's getting close to the search areas? If not, are they also being warned off?

On the military having to approve things from husband, they've had enough time to tell him what he can say...IMO!

I've seen a few pics of a staging area with a tent canopy set up for the searchers. Early on there was a comment from LE that we're not leaving until we find her, and that was from an interview on the search scene.
 
I can as well.

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You nailed it jash...you have to be signed into FB to see all 30 comments including sarcasim's. Thank you!
 
I can as well.

For those of you who can't, you might need to be signed in to Facebook.

You nailed it jash! You need to be signed into FB to see all of the comments by sarcasm! Thank you!
 
It's my understanding the reasoning behind not having open search parties is that they are searching in Joshua tree park. The terrain is rough, it's easy to get lost, you have to be acclimated to the weather etc. they were using a group of 30 searchers who were trained for this type of search.

As far as people not coming forward that might have seen something...29 is an unusual town. You have your helpful people but it's also full of transients, and offenders. The general mentality is to keep to yourself out there. I'm not implying that there aren't good people or that it's a bad place it just seems a different code to live by in the desert.
 
Her phone usage patterns are important. Did she text and call a lot? When was the last phone call she made or received in which someone actually heard her voice? I guess her phone has not been found.
 
Does this suggest LE knows what happened? Have there been other cases like that?

In my experience, it just depends on the personality of the LE leader in charge. There are cases where LE holds press conferences daily (or when necessary), they invite the media, they have copies of statements provided to the media and photos and spell names for the media. They thank the media by name and thank the public for their searches and announce needs for water, ATVs, etc., and if the terrain is too risky they say so but are generally open to the public. They will have a family member(s) on the podium with them, and they take questions from the media after the PC.

Then there are other searches, like this one, where the family is told not to speak to the media and they are silent for now 5 days.

I really just think it's the personality of the department leader.
 
Her husband is a government official first, civilian second. No one in the military is allowed to talk to the media without 1) permission and 2) a vetted statement. It's just the way it is because the media tends to skew every statement made. They want to be sure there is not going to be a ripple effect or unforeseen repercussions.

I understand that's the suggestion. I've had Marine friends say that, and others say "No way." Your statement about the military making sure they have a handle on what's happening makes sense. They should know what's happening by now, so we'll see if he's allowed to be a husband soon. I don't think it was fair for the mother to face the media alone, as far as close family members. A sister-in-law has done an interview or two, I think. The mother flew in from somewhere else (Tennessee?), so that's even more difficult. An NBC reporter said the family turned down an interview; maybe on the 3rd (I'm guessing on the date). The odds of finding someone alive in that situation has to be a matter of days at the most. If the military hasn't allowed the husband to become involved by now, that's a terrible policy.

Addendum: Along the same lines, I wonder what would have happened if Erin didn't have family back in Tennessee, in terms of publicizing the case quickly?
 
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