GUILTY CA - Erin Corwin, 19, pregnant, Twentynine Palms, 28 June 2014 - #10

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Someone would have to go to his CO and report it though. Formal allegations have to be made. Perhaps, that was a threat that Erin made to him later. What I don't understand is that if NL found out from the neighbor that he was cheating with EC, then she already knew he was sleeping around, so wouldn't that take the threat of him losing his wife off since she already knew? So once again, it comes down to the pregnancy. IMO

I agree......I probably didn't say it clearly before, but I think it was the pregnancy. I think he was convinced he was the father....and he knew that there would be no denying it. I believe he knew for a fact this would be the straw that broke the camel's back. It would be all over. He would lose his family.
 
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There are some explanations in the link to the Desert Sun that Dmacky posted. I really liked that article as it went into the history of the mines.

Yes, it was a very interesting and educational article. It's very fortunate that Erin's body didn't go over the edge of that false floor. She really might never have been found then. :(
 
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Also, according to what was posted yesterday about affairs in the military, he could have been sentenced to 1 year in the brig.

True, although from everything I've found on web searches that would've been extremely unlikely. In fact I'm seeing a lot of articles saying that he likely would've gotten at worst a "bad conduct" discharge which is apparently less severe than a "dishonorable discharge." I don't have any personal experience with this so I'm just going with what I found online (a few things I found for those who want to read more: http://usmilitary.about.com/od/justicelawlegislation/a/adultery.htm, http://usmilitary.about.com/od/punitivearticles/a/mcm1342.htm, http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...003/12/what_happens_to_cheating_soldiers.html, http://www.military.com/daily-news/2014/05/21/adultery-led-to-base-enlisted-leaders-ouster.html, and tons more here: http://search.military.com/search?q...entqrm=0&wc=200&wc_mc=1&oe=UTF-8&ud=1&start=0).

It seems like it's mostly high ranking officers that even get in trouble for it unless it's included with other charges.

Who knows, maybe he could get in trouble for it, but I have a feeling he was a lot more worried about the reaction from his wife than from the military.

I also have to think he's got to be in a whole lot more trouble with the military for killing Erin (assuming he did), although it seems he didn't think he'd get caught for killing her, while there's a very good chance he'd have gotten caught for the affair.
 
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Thanks you for posting this link, very interesting article.

Erin Corwin's body was found 140 feet down an old gold mine shaft in the remote creosote-dotted wilderness just north of the Joshua Tree National Park boundary. But the spot where her crumpled body landed - equivalent to about a 14-floor fall - was far from the very bottom of the Rose of Peru mine, which is estimated to be at least 250 feet deep.

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Five firefighters from the San Bernardino County Fire Department's specialized mine search team, plus three additional county firefighters, were sent to the site on Sunday.

"The sheriff's department contacted us to assist in recovering a body," county fire spokeswoman Tracey Martinez said. "They had a suspicion, but weren't sure it was Erin."

She said it was "quite a drive to get to the location," with the heavy rescue gear.

Entry into the mine was made about 3 p.m. Sunday. It took two hours to conduct the entire recovery, she said, which included two trips down the mine shaft. The first was made to recover the evidence.

One firefighter suffered a minor injury when rocks came loose and hit him, but he was also suffering from dehydration, she said. It was 106 degrees when the recovery effort began, and the firefighters did a lot of hydrating ahead of time. He was held overnight at Arrowhead Regional Medical Center and released on Monday.

Martinez said Corwin's body was discovered on a "false floor" in the mine shaft, where debris collects in one area and blocks the rest of the passage to the bottom of the mine.

"Miss Corwin's body landed on that debris field," she said, adding that Corwin's body could have fallen much further. "We couldn't even see how deep it went."


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Also has some history of the mine. Amazing they found her. Great work, absolutely great. IMO
 
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Question for those in the know. Why haven't mines been imploded for safety reasons to close them up? Budget? Historical value?

I can't claim to be 'in the know' but just from personal experience, my husband and I have taken a few road trips that included a long stretch along the Eastern side of the Sierra mountains. It was quite a bit further North from Joshua Tree, but there were a TON of mines. On the last trip we took the locals in one town were all buzzing about how a bunch of the mines were being "reactivated" since the price of various metals had gone up so much. Could be a reason not to implode them - in case they want to use them again some day in the future. Hopefully someone more knowledgeable will come along with a better answer, but that might explain at least some of it.
 
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Thanks you for posting this link, very interesting article.

Erin Corwin's body was found 140 feet down an old gold mine shaft in the remote creosote-dotted wilderness just north of the Joshua Tree National Park boundary. But the spot where her crumpled body landed - equivalent to about a 14-floor fall - was far from the very bottom of the Rose of Peru mine, which is estimated to be at least 250 feet deep.

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Five firefighters from the San Bernardino County Fire Department's specialized mine search team, plus three additional county firefighters, were sent to the site on Sunday.

"The sheriff's department contacted us to assist in recovering a body," county fire spokeswoman Tracey Martinez said. "They had a suspicion, but weren't sure it was Erin."

She said it was "quite a drive to get to the location," with the heavy rescue gear.

Entry into the mine was made about 3 p.m. Sunday. It took two hours to conduct the entire recovery, she said, which included two trips down the mine shaft. The first was made to recover the evidence.

One firefighter suffered a minor injury when rocks came loose and hit him, but he was also suffering from dehydration, she said. It was 106 degrees when the recovery effort began, and the firefighters did a lot of hydrating ahead of time. He was held overnight at Arrowhead Regional Medical Center and released on Monday.

Martinez said Corwin's body was discovered on a "false floor" in the mine shaft, where debris collects in one area and blocks the rest of the passage to the bottom of the mine.

"Miss Corwin's body landed on that debris field," she said, adding that Corwin's body could have fallen much further. "We couldn't even see how deep it went."


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Also has some history of the mine. Amazing they found her. Great work, absolutely great. IMO

Yes, amazing! Makes me wonder if even more evidence potentially fell further down. Hopefully they have enough already without anyone having to risk climbing further down to look, as it sounds pretty dangerous.
 
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http://www.georgianewsday.com/news/...rder-erin-corwin-to-keep-family-together.html

"Erin had told her Marine husband Jonathan she was headed to Joshua Tree National Park to scout trails she and her mother could later bike, but she never returned home." - See more at: http://www.georgianewsday.com/news/...eep-family-together.html#sthash.rxkzOSLS.dpuf

So, this is new....OR they need a Proof Reader...
The article used the word BIKE...
Perhaps they meant Hike?
IMOO.

Bike?! Sheesh. So far it's been scouting spots to take pictures, hiking, then camping, and now biking???
 
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Yes, amazing! Makes me wonder if even more evidence potentially fell further down. Hopefully they have enough already without anyone having to risk climbing further down to look, as it sounds pretty dangerous.

I thought about that when I read it also. The ledge must be pretty big, hopefully they got it all.
 
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PALM DESERT, Ca. - Christopher Brandon Lee's attorney spoke to KMIR exclusively regarding the murder case of Erin Corwin.

Attorney David Kaloyanides advised Lee to waive his extradition rights to speed up the legal hearings in order to look at the evidence carefully and legal strategies.
Lee will be extradited in the next few days, according to the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department.

Once he arrives in California, Lee will most likely be booked at the West Valley Detention Center in Rancho Cucamonga.

http://www.kmir.com/story/26342281/exclusive-interview-with-lees-attorney-in-erin-corwin-case

Video at link-
 
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If you are drugging someone heavily enough to cause an abortion, without legitimate abortion drugs, you may be facing murder anyway, premeditated murder at that.

I don't have much to add, but we had a case like that in FL - an OB's son got his girlfriend/fling pregnant and slipped her an abortion pill under the guise of an antibiotic (he said his father, who was her doctor, asked him to give it to her *his father did not* and I guess typed the label and put the pills in himself.) Anyway, he ended up getting 14 years in prison.

Link: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/cri...ng-girlfriend-abortion-pill-article-1.1593401

Certainly better odds than the death penalty and/or life in prison that CL seems to be facing now.

Of course, it would have been better to just man up and face his problems.

I do find it interesting that the suspected motive is that he was scared of losing his wife (and the divorce / child support / alimony he'd have to pay), not to mention losing access to his daughter. It's also been theorized he was afraid of losing benefits, his honorable discharge, etc. But, why risk all of that in the first place? I don't believe that he loved EC. He was moving back to Alaska and allegedly murdered her. So, he had no intention of being with her (the murder is proof of that, IMO) Was it just sex? The affair was going on since at least February, allegedly, so why not end it and move on to some other girl if it was just sex once they were caught? Why stay on the radar with EC, who clearly was in love with him? It just makes no sense. Even if it was the 'thrill', they had already been caught, so it seems to be that would be gone.

You know, I also wonder WHY he would have unprotected sex with her?? I'm assuming they did, since he seemed willing to believe the baby was his (I imagine if there was a broken condom or something, he may have doubts b/c there's still spermicide in condoms, so I would think he would want more proof before deciding to murder her.) She had a MC in January (and MOO!!! but if they were 'caught' in Feb, is it possible they were having an affair prior to that and the MC was his?) So, he knew she could get pregnant, and may have been 'trying' with her husband. I doubt he believed she was on birth control. So, why take a chance? If a pregnancy was 'worth' murdering her over, why not do everything he could to prevent it in the first place??

ETA: I have to believe she had some intimacy with her husband, since he also, was willing to believe the baby was his. If they hadn't slept together in, for example, 2 months - it would be hard to believe it was his. UNLESS that's where the discrepancy in dates are coming from. Maybe she told CL a different date (the correct one) and told her husband a different due date correlating to the last time that they were intimate.

It's all so, so dumb and so, so sad. And, I am NOT blaming EC, but I do wonder on a similar note if he felt 'tricked' by her being pregnant. Like, maybe, he thought she got pregnant on purpose and once he went down that path of thinking, it led to him feeling like she should pay for trying to ruin his family (though he did that all on his own!)
 
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Thank you

IMO he will either try to plead out for lessor sentence with confession or ask for speedy trial.

What do you think?
 
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And IMO MB. those two will be a hot button for the defense.
 
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PALM DESERT, Ca. - Christopher Brandon Lee's attorney spoke to KMIR exclusively regarding the murder case of Erin Corwin.

Attorney David Kaloyanides advised Lee to waive his extradition rights to speed up the legal hearings in order to look at the evidence carefully and legal strategies.
Lee will be extradited in the next few days, according to the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department.

Once he arrives in California, Lee will most likely be booked at the West Valley Detention Center in Rancho Cucamonga.

http://www.kmir.com/story/26342281/exclusive-interview-with-lees-attorney-in-erin-corwin-case

Video at link-

That detention center is approx. 80 miles from Yucca Valley, wonder if IM will visit him? Having been at 29 Palms for 6 yrs he probably has friends in the area.
 
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