GUILTY CA - Erin Corwin, 19, pregnant, Twentynine Palms, 28 June 2014 - #3

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  • #381
It's tough to put yourself in Erin's position. Assuming that the affair stuff is true, I might be inclined to pretend that my husband is the father. It's less trouble for everyone involved. But it may not be easy to lie about that sort of thing. And that might be why we have had conflicting information about how long she has been pregnant. Maybe she intentionally misled people about it.
 
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  • #383
Don't know why, but I just keep coming back to the alleged party and Erin, possibly a little tipsy, telling someone about an affair. It could've gotten back to the wrong person - possibly the husband, boyfriend, and/or his spouse - and here we are.

Pure speculation at this point, but I just have a gut feeling this was domestic.
 
  • #384
Total Speculation session here, no names:

Let's say hypothetically that person #1 has ties to a victim of a violent crime , but their itinerary and location information is unknown
and let's also say that person #2 has ties to the time and general location of the violent crime, but their ties to the victim are unknown

In addition to their physical differences, #2 has a significant additional attribute in their life that #1 does not have. Hypothetically, law enforcement may have indicated that their prime suspect has this particular attribute. But of the two, only #1 has the proven connection to the victim.

#1 and #2 work together
They both have spent time at a great distance away from their families, some even from their "attributes", who's to say that one of them during this period didn't learn something that the other wouldn't want a third party to know etc. Hypothetically, of course. Just conjecture.

(no, neither #1 nor #2 would be married to the victim, hypothetically of course)
 
  • #385
I've been following this from afar, and I just have to say -- I feel this might be a stranger abduction. If she succumbed in the desert, they would have found her by now (IMHO). I'm not getting a hinkey feeling from the husband (probably because he hasn't said much). Does anyone know if her car was in working order when found -- or did she break down?

Thx - Mel.

BBM: You know, if I hadn't been following the Mike Herdman case I'd probably agree with you. So many hours were spent searching for him, so many people, dogs, drones, helicopters, etc. with "no stone unturned," and yet he was found so many days later not far from where he went missing. He was in an unlikely location, for sure, but I was shocked when he was found so close to the area that had supposedly been searched. It makes me sad to say it but I can imagine Erin being out there in that very vast desert and being missed, especially considering the mines.
 
  • #386
Definitely not men only. I have zero idea what my husband was wearing this morning.

I'd take a guess about my husband's clothes de jour - black t-shirt and jeans. With my luck, it would turn out to be the one day he put on a t-shirt of a lighter color and I didn't even notice. Some sleuth!
 
  • #387
Don't know why, but I just keep coming back to the alleged party and Erin, possibly a little tipsy, telling someone about an affair. It could've gotten back to the wrong person - possibly the husband, boyfriend, and/or his spouse - and here we are.

Pure speculation at this point, but I just have a gut feeling this was domestic.

Drinking when she's underage, knows she's pregnant, and after she just suffered a miscarriage a few months back? Maybe, but JMO it seems unlikely even given the little bit of info that's been reported.

I too think it's probably domestic in some way - I'm not thinking her husband or anyone specific, but I am betting whatever has happened someone she knows is involved.
 
  • #388
Drinking when she's underage, knows she's pregnant, and after she just suffered a miscarriage a few months back? Maybe, but JMO it seems unlikely even given the little bit of info that's been reported.

I too think it's probably domestic in some way - I'm not thinking her husband or anyone specific, but I am betting whatever has happened someone she knows is involved.

Oh yeah, forgot about the whole pregnant thing for a sec. Disregard. :facepalm:
 
  • #389
Total Speculation session here, no names:

Let's say hypothetically that person #1 has ties to a victim of a violent crime , but their itinerary and location information is unknown
and let's also say that person #2 has ties to the time and general location of the violent crime, but their ties to the victim are unknown

In addition to their physical differences, #2 has a significant additional attribute in their life that #1 does not have. Hypothetically, law enforcement may have indicated that their prime suspect has this particular attribute. But of the two, only #1 has the proven connection to the victim.

#1 and #2 work together
They both have spent time at a great distance away from their families, some even from their "attributes", who's to say that one of them during this period didn't learn something that the other wouldn't want a third party to know etc. Hypothetically, of course. Just conjecture.

(no, neither #1 nor #2 would be married to the victim, hypothetically of course)

I see what you are saying. Possible.
At this point, I'm getting more and more confused.
Hoping they find Erin very soon.
 
  • #390
I think I understand all of this except the "significant attribute."

Pure conjecture, but do you think the burned building will play out here? I was thinking that if there was any connection (Ihttp://www.z1077fm.com/suspicious-fire-destroys-joshua-tree-duplex), that a 3rd party would have to be involved because anyone else would be too closely watched.

I normally wouldn't pay that much attention to a fire like this, but there was just "breaking news" yesterday about a missing woman in HI whose suspected killer was just indicted for murder, and the story pointed out that her SUV had been burned after the disappearance. Could someone have read this article, and gotten the idea? I know, way too complicated. Just my thoughts.



Total Speculation session here, no names:

Let's say hypothetically that person #1 has ties to a victim of a violent crime , but their itinerary and location information is unknown
and let's also say that person #2 has ties to the time and general location of the violent crime, but their ties to the victim are unknown

In addition to their physical differences, #2 has a significant additional attribute in their life that #1 does not have. Hypothetically, law enforcement may have indicated that their prime suspect has this particular attribute. But of the two, only #1 has the proven connection to the victim.

#1 and #2 work together
They both have spent time at a great distance away from their families, some even from their "attributes", who's to say that one of them during this period didn't learn something that the other wouldn't want a third party to know etc. Hypothetically, of course. Just conjecture.

(no, neither #1 nor #2 would be married to the victim, hypothetically of course)
 
  • #391
I admit, I've missed a lot but I'm trying to catch up. As far as what she was wearing do we know if JC couldn't tell the police or is it that the police haven't released the info? Seems like the LE are keeping a lot of info close to the vest in this investigation.

JMO of course

The thing that stands out to me in Erin's case is there hasn't been a missing flyer put out to alert the public to be on the lookout for her. Therefore, LE must know more because why are they so sure she wasn't kidnapped? If they thought that, everyone should be on alert and looking for her.

LE even seems sure she never left the park even though her car did. If she was taken from the location of her car (to me that seems like it could be a possibility) why is LE focusing solely on desert locations? LE, as a whole aren't idiots, so I'll assume they have a working theory. They are determined to find her body.
 
  • #392
I posted the article about the supposed bf night before last and got it served to me for being behind. I'm sure that these questions have been answered on previous pages but I don't have the time to go back through everything right now but I'm really concerned about her safe return. Has their house been searched, if so would MP's be involved in this since it's on base? Have dog's been used in any searches? Have any official searches been done on base? If anybody in the military is responsible for disappearance, I'm sure they did a good job covering their tracks.
 
  • #393
At what point do you think the search is going to end?
When do you think the family will be open to going back home if there are no answers?
Why do you think the family has made a public statement, but the husband has not?...If he is truly innocent why would they allow him the "freedom" to go as he pleases and isn't not restricting him to the base, but they are prohibiting him (or he is not wanting) to make a public statement? I mean, a simple thanks to the SR team and the publics support.
I know there has been speculation as to who is in charge of the case; SB or MP....Whoever it may be why do you think his CO is telling him to remain silent? What if he didn't want to? Is he too afraid to say something because of the repercussions? just curious.....
 
  • #394
I was a military wife and have worked on a military base for years. It is a tight community that doesnt like to air its "dirty laundry" to civilians. I have heard of crimes on our post that dont make the news at all or are contained very quickly. A body was found dumped in the woods near the base a few years ago. It was breaking news on the radio while LE was at the scene but nothing was ever in newsprint...anywhere. Ive heard stories about civilian crime off base but military crime or anything on or near post is buried. JMO
 
  • #395
I posted the article about the supposed bf night before last and got it served to me for being behind. I'm sure that these questions have been answered on previous pages but I don't have the time to go back through everything right now but I'm really concerned about her safe return. Has their house been searched, if so would MP's be involved in this since it's on base? Have dog's been used in any searches? Have any official searches been done on base? If anybody in the military is responsible for disappearance, I'm sure they did a good job covering their tracks.

and thanks for posting the article!! I am new to the case also so my answers may be "wrong"....LOL

am not aware of their house being searched by either MP or local LE
dogs have/are being used in the search
no MSM mention of searches being conducted on base

But I can't see how LE can do a thorough investigation without visiting/searching her home....right?
 
  • #396
Definitely not men only. I have zero idea what my husband was wearing this morning.

Exactly. My husband leaves at 5:30 am every morning. I can be fairly certain he's wearing jeans but wouldn't have a clue as what shirt. And since he leaves well before I even get out of bed he wouldn't know what I was wearing either. (neither would my kids since I drop them off at school before I get ready for work)

Mel
 
  • #397
Total Speculation session here, no names:

Let's say hypothetically that person #1 has ties to a victim of a violent crime , but their itinerary and location information is unknown
and let's also say that person #2 has ties to the time and general location of the violent crime, but their ties to the victim are unknown

In addition to their physical differences, #2 has a significant additional attribute in their life that #1 does not have. Hypothetically, law enforcement may have indicated that their prime suspect has this particular attribute. But of the two, only #1 has the proven connection to the victim.

#1 and #2 work together
They both have spent time at a great distance away from their families, some even from their "attributes", who's to say that one of them during this period didn't learn something that the other wouldn't want a third party to know etc. Hypothetically, of course. Just conjecture.

(no, neither #1 nor #2 would be married to the victim, hypothetically of course)

Away from their attribute or attributes (as you said)? How does one leave their attribute/s behind?
I'm trying to understand. Strange ideas are coming to my mind - lol!
 
  • #398
We've heard nothing about phone/text records. If early on, LE saw a candid communication, "meet me at ____, at _____ time, there's their lead.
LE's reasons for conducting the search the way they are could be that simple.
 
  • #399
Exactly. I asked that before. Someone is assuming Erin wasn't having relations with her husband then.
How would anyone know that?

I'm just making a wild guess here, but if the rumor is true, it's just as possible that Erin told her husband about the affair. Or it could be just as possible for everybody in their group to know about the affair. Sometimes people make mistakes and confess. It's also just as possible that the guy was interviewed by police already and he admitted he had an affair with Erin.

It's just as possible that Erin wasn't having "fun" with her husband. Who knows? We don't (and her parents don't) know what goes on in their bedroom. We are all making assumptions, when in reality...maybe Jon couldn't even have kids. Or they could have an open relationship.

There is really no way to know unless the police release more information. What we do know- there is ONE news site saying a source told them Erin was having an affair with a married marine and some of his stories didn't make sense. There has been no high up official to tell us otherwise.
 
  • #400
Soooo frustrating with no new news!
 
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