GUILTY CA - Erin Corwin, 19, pregnant, Twentynine Palms, 28 June 2014 - #5

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  • #761
Sorry if this has been mentioned already as I haven't been able to catch up since last night, but the docs also were not redacted for names of those that LE probably doesn't consider POIs right now. Name of minor left in as well. Typically all that fine information is removed. If not by LE, media should have done that.

Reminds me of the police report in the Heather Elvis case that was leaked, and not Fully redacted until later, because clearly it was easy to read through those original documents, until it was redacted the right way, and not redacted with a highlighter.
IMOO.
 
  • #762
understood HOWEVER the story titled " Why, Why Kill The Donkey???" was typed/signed by IM.....bothersome since this story was printed in May 2014 yet NO mention of "one of their own" in such an awful circumstance a month later...maybe it's the motherly instincts in me that cause me to not grasp this....although I'm sure IM must have been aware that aside from JC, EC had no family in the area......unsettling :sigh:

It's possible she was asked not to say anything about EC at that point. It's possible this angered her, and she felt that CL or NL ruined her donkey, so it was a passive aggressive way to "hint" at what she thought. Not sure why she would let them live at her place then, unless she was intimidated.
 
  • #763
It's possible she was asked not to say anything about EC at that point. It's possible this angered her, and she felt that CL or NL ruined her donkey, so it was a passive aggressive way to "hint" at what she thought. Not sure why she would let them live at her place then, unless she was intimidated.

The donkey post was a month before Erin went missing. Nothing has been posted since Erin went missing as far as I can tell, the last post was 2 weeks before Erin's disappearance.
 
  • #764
It's possible she was asked not to say anything about EC at that point. It's possible this angered her, and she felt that CL or NL ruined her donkey, so it was a passive aggressive way to "hint" at what she thought. Not sure why she would let them live at her place then, unless she was intimidated.

If they ruined her donkey in the end of May, and she was mad about it, it's strange that she let them stay with her from July 3-July 17th.
 
  • #765
http://www.desertsun.com/story/news...christopher-lee-arrest/12961823/?sf28800445=1

"Nichole made statements to Isabel about the detectives having missed something at their residence when it was searched because detectives did not search the garage," the affadavit states. "Nichole told Isabel that without a body the detectives did not have a case against them and the detectives would never find the body."

When contacted Monday evening, Megli told The Desert Sun she and Nichole Lee weren't specifically talking about the Corwin case, but similar cases.

In addition, the affidavit lists retrieval of a rifle belonging to Lee from a closet in the back of Megli's residence.

Megli, however, denies any knowledge that the rifle was in her home.

"I had nothing to do with that," Megli said Monday evening. "I wasn't even involved. If it was here, they took it and they left."

The Geronimo Trail house is owned by Megli, but the Lee family lived there earlier this month. Megli said she had agreed to house the family as they prepared to move to Alaska. The family moved in on July 3, and law enforcement searched the house one day later.

"We had no idea what they were looking for," Megli said.

Megli said Lee left her house last Wednesday. Megli told The Desert Sun that the Lee couple had not spoken to her about the Corwin investigation.

Well that's certainly different than what the probable cause affidavit said. What do you guys think, was LE justifiying (overstating) the need for the search warrants, or is IM doing a CYA maneuver?
 
  • #766
Ok. Thinking on this....MB saw the toyota (and presumably Erin) with a red car. Later his sister saw the Toyota but thought it had been moved further in. Toyota is later found by the water dept employee.

If the sister is correct and it was moved later it still makes sense. MB saw her walk around to the passenger side. Toyota is moved later and driver gets out of the driver's side walks to the waiting vehicle that has the tire treads that are consistent with CL's Jeep. No tracks are found at that time on the passenger's side because the car in not in the original location it was when MB saw the activity around it.

Mel. ( I hope that makes sense. It did in my head :-) )

BBM
And you did a very good job I might add!!
 
  • #767
There was no Hobbs Seal on this particular warrant, that means there is no legal justification to prevent the public from seeing the information contained within it. In fact, strange as it is, Hobbs Sealing was specifically NOT requested in this case. Interesting... :thinking:

I had to look up "Hobbs Seal". It appears that term applies to sealing the identity of a "confidential informant".
http://definitions.uslegal.com/h/hobbs-seal/

How are you interpreting it? Do you think that's what happened (an informant has been identified when they thought they wouldn't be)?
 
  • #768
BBM
And you did a very good job I might add!!

So at 10:30 am MB saw what could have been Erin and then possibly NL was in the car and moved it later?
 
  • #769
Well that's certainly different than what the probable cause affidavit said. What do you guys think, was LE justifiying (overstating) the need for the search warrants, or is IM doing a CYA maneuver?

I think IM is definitely doing a CYA!
 
  • #770
For future ref

IM said (and I will provide link when I get on my computer) that CL n NL moved to her place July 3rd and left for Alaska last Wednesday which would be July 16th, in case report gets written over re dates.

http://www.wbir.com/story/news/2014/07/21/ex-marine-who-knew-erin-corwin-arrested/12975351/

Megli said Lee and his family moved out of his apartment and into the house on Geronimo Trail on July 3. Law enforcement searched the house on day later.

"We had no idea what they were looking for," Megli said.

Megli said Lee left for Alaska last Wednesday.

Last Wednesday was July 16, the day IM gave an interview about Erin and the horse, Cassy. Coinkydink?
Could she have felt trapped before then? July 3 until the 16th incorporates 14 days. Wonder if the original plan was that CL would stay longer? Also I noticed it sounds like Lee (singular) left last Wednesday. So, when did the other Lee leave (NL)?
 
  • #771
Well that's certainly different than what the probable cause affidavit said. What do you guys think, was LE justifiying (overstating) the need for the search warrants, or is IM doing a CYA maneuver?

CYA. IMO. She can't explain away NL and CL arguing about keeping lies straight.
 
  • #772
Well that's certainly different than what the probable cause affidavit said. What do you guys think, was LE justifiying (overstating) the need for the search warrants, or is IM doing a CYA maneuver?

Me thinks IM in CYA mode, can you imagine if CL n NL have seen the PCA online, man I bet IM's phone was ringing off the hook. IMO
 
  • #773
It never fails to boggle my mind that people who commit these sorts of crimes always think *they* are the person who is going to get away with it. Being that LE looks first at the spouse and then casts the net out from there, I have never understood why they don't realize they're going to come under some pretty intense scrutiny. I really hope the police in Alaska have them under surveillance.
 
  • #774
Last Wednesday was July 16, the day IM gave an interview about Erin and the horse, Cassy. Coinkydink?
Could she have felt trapped before then? July 3 until the 16th incorporates 14 days. Wonder if the original plan was that CL would stay longer? Also I noticed it sounds like Lee (singular) left last Wednesday. So, when did the other Lee leave (NL)?

Don't know but with a car and uhaul, I would think both left same time. but I honestly don't know.
 
  • #775
I hope the LE interview/talk with IM is on tape!!!!
 
  • #776
Thanks necco, that makes a lot more sense now. :)
 
  • #777
In blue...I agree and this really bothers me. And she let them live there for weeks after these statements were made.

What day did IM tell Det. Emon this information? She may have told him everything and LE knew CL (and NL?) would remain at the ranch for awhile and that was fine with LE.
The timing of the release of the warrant info was after CL had left for Alaska. Noticed that CL's court date in San Bernardino is scheduled for September (the 9th iirc).
 
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It never fails to boggle my mind that people who commit these sorts of crimes always think *they* are the person who is going to get away with it. Being that LE looks first at the spouse and then casts the net out from there, I have never understood why they don't realize they're going to come under some pretty intense scrutiny. I really hope the police in Alaska have them under surveillance.

I think a lot of people really believe the whole "no body, no crime" bit and that is why we are seeing so many victims, mostly wives and girlfriends it seems, who are "missing". Lots of people (most, Imo) do not pay attention to news, trials, etc...or they would see that is not true.
 
  • #780
And I think IM can't explain away why CL would be worried about needing an alibi for the 29th.
 
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