GUILTY CA - Erin Corwin, 19, pregnant, Twentynine Palms, 28 June 2014 - #7

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I don't know where it happened. Just want to know if Erin was witnessed on camera leaving base or entering anywhere else on June 28. We know they've checked all cameras by now. We know the car she was said to be driving. So did that car leave base while Erin was driving it? Why won't LE offer that evidence at least?

If we are to believe the comment that the documents we do have weren't supposed to be released, they didn't have any intention of releasing anything at all, much less whether or not they can document her leaving the base.

Also, since the probable cause statement was written for the express purpose of obtaining search warrants, they would only have included exactly what they needed to justify the request they were making at that time.

Because of those limitations, it's difficult to tell what they do and don't have.
 
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Yes and same thing with the Jeffrey MacDonald case as well as Timothy Hennis.

Actually, I think it was the opposite with MacDonald. His long road to justice started with an Article 32 hearing because he was still in the Army and the crime occurred on base. It ended up in civilian court, years later, after his father in law petitioned the Justice Department to take action.
 
  • #205
Interesting. Google says there's bus transportation between those two locations.
 
  • #206
Quite frankly Ms. Megli, no I don't think you would have called because you never
uttered a word about Erin's disappearance on your web pages ONCE PRIOR to your 7-16 video interview and that was a good 19 days since she was reported missing...smh :notgood:

Zing!
 
  • #207
Do young people text everything? It seems like such personal info to be sharing via text. Don't they use email anymore at least or PM via FB? Plus sort of long concepts to explain via text - over detailing is what I'm getting at. Pretend Erin is formulating this text - oh and btw the the guy I'm having an affair with told me if his wife finds out she'll take their daughter away from him. Then think about her sending that text, 20 yo or not, and not having her conscious kick in about what she's about to do. La-dee-da, so what, who cares!?

Isn't it a strange topic to be sharing via text messages?

Yes, they text nearly everything.

As do a significant number of those far older than 'young people.'

(Heck, despite much preferring email, I'd have to put myself in the category of those who use text far more often - for a whole lot of things I'd never have imagined texting about years ago)

Many use email far less extensively as they used to. And that's true of FB, and especially FB chat, than it used to be.

I'd think that she may have also told her friend at least something in the past and so she may well have had some degree of foundation as to what was going on, even if it wasn't anywhere near this point at the time.

As for sending it and not having her conscious kick in after setting it...? Well, there's a lot of other points where that'd likely kick in for someone, so it not having happened earlier doesn't really shock me that texting it all wouldn't have. Sadly.
 
  • #208
As I would have too!

And I also would have known at 16 (and long before!)...

  • That sex can lead to pregnancy.
  • That if you're in a (supposed) committed relationship with someone, having a relationship that's more than platonic with someone else, that other parties (SO of either parties) are very likely to not take that especially well. (Heck that's even true with school girl 'best friends' in a lot of cases - never mind applying it to dating or marriage, etc.)
  • That a relationship with someone other than my spouse (whenever I were to be married) would be a recipe for disaster, heartache, and a lot of other things.
  • That a relationship with someone other than my spouse who was ALSO married would be an even a BIGGER recipe for disaster.

Add in that it's not like we can't think Erin didn't KNOW she was fertile and could get pregnant - she had just gotten pregnant a few months earlier.

And while others seemed to be aware of things, they were also NOT just flaunting what was going around in front of everyone. (Or we'd have known all of this from the get go and it'd not have been dismissed quite as easily as it was when the radio station finally broke it).

Which also means she either knew: a) it was wrong or b) someone was likely to be unhappy if they found out about it.

So while yeah, I guess some could say she was naive based on her age (I realize you're not saying that, Clu!) and not 'wise into the ways of men' or something, a whole lot of those things are things that MOST teens even far younger than her would know.

And two of the very key things her own actions disprove at least some degree of possible naivety.

But that's JMHO :)

And I was neither married in my teens or even dating at that age, let alone married to one person and having any sort of intimate relationship (physical or emotional) with another person that was not my spouse or SO. So there are some who would have said that I'd have been naive about men at that point.

Yet there is no way I'd have done any of what has gone on in this situation, if for no other reason than frankly I'd not have seen ANYTHING that could have come out of it that wasn't almost certainly going to lead to trouble.

Let me see if I can explain better, what I was trying to say.

YES, one would know, in their head, everything you listed. Even an inexperienced 16 yr old would know it was bad news to get involved in extramarital affair etc etc. Logically, mentally, one would know all of that.

But my point is that when an inexperienced 19 yr old goes out into the world, alone with a husband deployed, she might get in over her head. She might not know how to deal with intense emotional/sexual feelings for an older friend. Even if she 'knew' mentally it was wrong, she might not be able to resist infatuation or manipulation. jmo :moo:
 
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It would be hard to find someone who has not, in the past, done something they swore they would not do...or did something even though they knew better. Very hard. Teenagers, adults, older people....yeah.
 
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It would be hard to find someone who has done something they swore they would not do...or did something even though they knew better. Very hard. Teenagers, adults, older people....yeah.

Well.... at this very minute I am indulging in one of my favorite sins....

I am enjoying waaayyy too much "drumstick' ice cream... :sundae:

I know I will feel yucky tomorrow...

And will lose all respect for myself, to boot...

Yet... still I continue to indulge...

And I am 57 years old...

:giggle:
 
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Well.... at this very minute I am indulging in one of my favorite sins....

I am enjoying waaayyy too much "drumstick' ice cream... :sundae:

I know I will feel yucky tomorrow...

And will lose all respect for myself, to boot...

Yet... still I continue to indulge...

And I am 57 years old...

:giggle:
I am so jealous. I haven't had one of those in ages. Or those pink bars with crunchies on the outside and strawberry goodness on the inside. Or Ben & Jerry's Phish Food...that I ate constantly after my first divorce. Or Ben & Jerry's...anything.
 
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Well.... at this very minute I am indulging in one of my favorite sins....

I am enjoying waaayyy too much "drumstick' ice cream... :sundae:

I know I will feel yucky tomorrow...

And will lose all respect for myself, to boot...

Yet... still I continue to indulge...

And I am 57 years old...

:giggle:

I was thinking more along the lines of when I was a kid and my Mom would do something and I'd tell myself, "when I have kids, I'm NEVER going to do _____________(fill in the blank) and then of course, I did. I remember correcting my kids and thinking, "I sound just like my mother." :gaah:
 
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I am having Haagen Dazs chocolate peanut butter--my all-time favorite. I always say, I have a Master's Degree so I can eat ice cream for dinner any time I want. And my loved ones should be thankful that I am not anorexic.

So, any information on the search? Do they search at night as well as day time? There are rumblings that something is going on in LAnders about 10 minutes from the ranch.

Don't murderers tend to stick to places they are familiar and comfortable with? I don't think she is too far from the ranch and base area for that reason. The problem is that the ranch and base area is so vast.
 
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I am so jealous. I haven't had one of those in ages. Or those pink bars with crunchies on the outside and strawberry goodness on the inside. Or Ben & Jerry's Phish Food...that I ate constantly after my first divorce. Or Ben & Jerry's...anything.

No worries...

I am eating enough for you AND me... and everyone else on this thread... for that matter...

:D
 
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I was thinking more along the lines of when I was a kid and my Mom would do something and I'd tell myself, "when I have kids, I'm NEVER going to do _____________(fill in the blank) and then of course, I did. I remember correcting my kids and thinking, "I sound just like my mother." :gaah:
Oh gosh yes....

I have done that too many times to count...

(Tee! Hee! :sunshine:)
 
  • #218
No worries...

I am eating enough for you AND me... and everyone else on this thread... for that matter...

:D
I thank you for taking one for the team! :happydance:
 
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I am having Haagen Dazs chocolate peanut butter--my all-time favorite. I always say, I have a Master's Degree so I can eat ice cream for dinner any time I want. And my loved ones should be thankful that I am not anorexic.

So, any information on the search? Do they search at night as well as day time? There are rumblings that something is going on in LAnders about 10 minutes from the ranch.

Don't murderers tend to stick to places they are familiar and comfortable with? I don't think she is too far from the ranch and base area for that reason. The problem is that the ranch and base area is so vast.

BBM: I wanted to make this point days ago but got lost in the threads and the topic at hand and forgot about it.

I agree with you about this, his awareness space is important to where to look for Erin. Criminals go where they feel comfortable when dealing with aspects of their crime.
 
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