GUILTY CA - Erin Corwin, 19, pregnant, Twentynine Palms, 28 June 2014 - #7

[Jambri]

I'm just having trouble making this whole thing fit. He's young and dumb and full of hormones, and he just doesn't seem like the kind to take anything seriously enough to kill somebody over it, y'know?

I kinda feel the same way. It takes a LOT of courage to put an end to someone's life. He must have known the consequences should he have been caught.

 

[amm]

So sorry. Just trying to help.

No worries.

 

[goldenbear]

I'm just having trouble making this whole thing fit. He's young and dumb and full of hormones, and he just doesn't seem like the kind to take anything seriously enough to kill somebody over it, y'know?

I have studied killers for a long time. He perfectly fits the profile of the elaborate killer. Everything iis worked out, blaming another party,the alabi,
concealing the body. The problem with the elaborate killer is the plan is so complex that by chance flaws develop. The big one so far is that Erin told her friend everything. A nice hole in hard desert dirt with rocks can be dug in about an hour with a trenching tool(combination shovel and pick) He would have been skilled in this and probably had the hole dug in advance.

 

[carbuff]

Okay. Do you think his wife would take it seriously enough to do harm? I totally get what your saying but if he/they didn't do something, where is she? What could have possibly happened to her? I don't think JC was involved with her disappearance.

That's why I was wondering if there's any way it could have been a tragic accident that he was too young and dumb to report. Or if he was afraid his wife might have done it.

 

[Fairy1]

Let's not forget that CL is a trained Marine. IMO, killing any "threat" is probably not a problem for him.

 

[carbuff]

I believe he's capable of killing. What I'm having trouble with is picturing him feeling angry enough or threatened enough by a girlfriend's pregnancy to actually DO it in this particular circumstance.

 

[77DarkHorse7]

I know there has been some speculation but I can't really reconcile in my head how Erin's car ended up where it did. Did she meet up with CL, leave her car there and get in to his Jeep with him? Did she meet him in JT and later he and the wife went back, got her car and left it where LE found it? For me, this is a huge piece of the puzzle I can't figure out.

I don't think she got into the Jeep by her car. I think she got into the Green Honda by her car.

 

[Peppery]

Do we know for sure CL is back in Alaska? Was he allowed to leave CA as a condition of his bond? He has to face charges related to the potato gun in September, right?

I'd love to know if LE will trail him from AK or wherever he is when he gets back to town. I've always heard criminals like to go back to the scene of the crime. He might take a look around to see if there's any evidence left, or if the location has been disturbed. IMO

 

[77DarkHorse7]

I don't understand this. Why aren't there more leaks? You would think that the person who leaked the first warrants would have found a way to get the rest out, correct?? Is the person biased and only leaking warrants that point towards "his" suspects? We can't work this investigation with only half the picture. So someone better get their act together... JMO

 

[Fairy1]

I believe he's capable of killing. What I'm having trouble with is picturing him feeling angry enough or threatened enough by a girlfriend's pregnancy to actually DO it in this particular circumstance.

Agree. We can reasonably assume he genuinely cared for Erin. Then again, Marines are trained to take orders and do as they're told. Just sayin....

 

[cluciano63]

Erin dying by "accident" is way too coincidental.
18-21 years of child support is an excellent motive, to some.
And in no way is he "too young" to murder another person. WS has convinced me there is almost no age too young.

 

[cluciano63]

Agree. We can reasonably assume he genuinely cared for Erin. Then again, Marines are trained to take orders and do as they're told. Just sayin....

I do not assume he genuinely cared for her at all. Why would anyone assume this?

 

[carbuff]

Erin dying by "accident" is way too coincidental.
18-21 years of child support is an excellent motive, to some.
And in no way is he "too young" to murder another person. WS has convinced me there is almost no age too young.

I didn't mean young as in too young, I meant young as in just living, not thinking too much. He strikes me as a straightforward action type of guy. I'll say again I think he's perfectly capable of killing, I'm just having trouble with him committing this murder in this way.

 

[Fairy1]

I do not assume he genuinely cared for her at all. Why would anyone assume this?

I said "reasonably." IF CL and Erin were having a full-blown affair, it would have been a far greater risk for him as a Marine, husband and father.

 

[RSC]

That's how I feel. I think his wife would have reasonably assumed he cared about her...yet he got another woman pregnant.

I do not assume he genuinely cared for her at all. Why would anyone assume this?

 

[goldenbear]

That's how I feel. I think his wife would have reasonably assumed he cared about her...yet he got another woman pregnant.

I dont understand why this is a motive. She is married. Her husband has to pay to raise the child and to care for her. IMO

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Haven't caught up yet (almost). Did anybody else notice, based on the picture in the People article, how much Jon's mother and Erin look alike? I can't get over their resemblance to one another. The three of them (mom, Jon and Erin) have the same eyes. Uncanny.

 

[rollinginit]

Possibly this is a stupid idea, but is there any chance that Erin did go out to JT, and CL didn't show up on time, and while she was waiting she wandered around and fell into a mine or ran into a rattlesnake or something? And when CL got there he found her and instead of going for help, just left her?

I was also thinking something along those lines. Mostly thinking she ran into a stranger.
I love the ID channel. I started to notice that there a lot of cases that involve deserts.

 

[Mrs. Gladden]

Going back to the Probable Cause...JC told LE that EC left at 0700 hrs and was due to return at 1600 hrs and was going to JTNP. Then, in questioning, CL told LE that he went hunting in JTNP, that he left at 0730 hrs and returned at 1600 hrs.

What a coincidence.

 

[maskedwoman]

Regarding Alaska getting the info, I personally emailed links from the stories with warrant details to 25+ reporters at Atn n in Alaska but it appeared none ran the stories and I got no return responses. According to my research, Nichols family is well known with some in political office and her grandparents run a bed and breakfast but it doesn't appear she is close to family. I haven't found anything on CL.

Bravo to you - way to be pro-active. :great: It's very disappointing that none of them ran with it. They'll probably find time for plenty of coverage once an arrest is made. The media get on my last nerve sometimes. My mental pictures of most newsies is a pack of dogs, all chasing the same bone over here, then a shiny new bone shows up over there, and they all turn and run the other direction, all barking too loudly to hear anything of import. Makes me crazy. :gaah: