CA CA - Fontana, BlkFem UP6429, 20-30, in field, white tutu, Aug'88

  • #21
This is sketchy info but the pic grabbed my attention.

A family member posted this on FB so I'm not going to mention the name since I didn't find her listed as missing anywhere else.

Mp listing says: 5'6 inches (-1" from doe) 130lbs (-12lbs from doe), short hair, missing about 22 years and would have been about 21YO (pic looks like a HS type pic so she is younger there).

Missing year may have been 1992. I don't see an exact last seen date. I don't know what state she was in yet.

she really needs to get her listed in NamUs. They will do it even if LE refuse to take a report. The family can contact us on our FB page above
 
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  • #22
This is sketchy info but the pic grabbed my attention.

A family member posted this on FB so I'm not going to mention the name since I didn't find her listed as missing anywhere else.

Mp listing says: 5'6 inches (-1" from doe) 130lbs (-12lbs from doe), short hair, missing about 22 years and would have been about 21YO (pic looks like a HS type pic so she is younger there).

Missing year may have been 1992. I don't see an exact last seen date. I don't know what state she was in yet.


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Wow that looks very close to me. lips, nose, face shape
 
  • #23
she really needs to get her listed in NamUs. They will do it even if LE refuse to take a report. The family can contact us on our FB page above

Which FB page?

I asked about the year and the state.
 
  • #24
Does anyone know what is behind her ear in the 2nd PM photo in the 1st post?[/B] It looks like a tattoo of an awareness ribbon to me, but when I zoom it looks like a weird shaped scar. She was only deceased a few hours.

I think that is stitching from the autopsy.
 
  • #25
I just happened across a website called "Blackandmissing.org". Maybe it would be worthwhile to ask and see if the webmaster could post "Ballet Dress Woman" UID's info on the site with Carl's recon, but not the PM photo?
 
  • #26
I just happened across a website called "Blackandmissing.org". Maybe it would be worthwhile to ask and see if the webmaster could post "Ballet Dress Woman" UID's info on the site with Carl's recon, but not the PM photo?

Good suggestion; not sure why I didn't think of it! Stress; busy lol
If someone has time feel free; they also have a FB page. You can share the album from <modsnip> me in a PM to them.
If someone has time to call the ME about the ear as well as see if they have photos of her clothing.
 
  • #27
I just sent a PM to the webmaster/page administrator of blackandmissing.org, asking if they could please post "Ballet Dress Woman's" info. I included link to Roselvr's NFM FB page as well.

From what I could learn of "ballet-length " skirts, the term "ballet length" varies from knee to just above the ankle, with a length between the midcalf and just above the ankle being the most common descriptors of 'ballet" length. It seems to depend on who was writing the advertising copy for the skirt.
 
  • #28
Janelle Johnson https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/31020/10/ missing since 1985, maybe too long ago...

Dorothy Williams https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/13901/3/ she looks alot like our JD. She has a Surgicaly inserted metal in R/elbow but our doe does not. Missing since 1987. https://www.findthemissing.org/en/photos/full/24735

Deborah Rice https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/27490/4/ no photo of her

Anita Wiley https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/33690/6/ no photo of her

Rosa Westbrook https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/12268/9/ no photo of her
 
  • #29
  • #30
This is sketchy info but the pic grabbed my attention.

A family member posted this on FB so I'm not going to mention the name since I didn't find her listed as missing anywhere else.

Mp listing says: 5'6 inches (-1" from doe) 130lbs (-12lbs from doe), short hair, missing about 22 years and would have been about 21YO (pic looks like a HS type pic so she is younger there).

Missing year may have been 1992. I don't see an exact last seen date. I don't know what state she was in yet.


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Was the girl you found ever entered into Namus or reported as missing?
 
  • #31
  • #32
Was the girl you found ever entered into Namus or reported as missing?

I was going to ask this too. The resemblance between the woman in that photo and Jane Doe is uncanny. The nose, the eyebrows, and the lips look almost exactly the same as JD. The picture is pretty blurry and faint, but that resemblance has me pretty stunned. The one problem is probably the "about 22 years ago" part, but I imagine memory could be pretty hazy after that long.
 
  • #33
Date of Discovery: August 15, 1988
Location of Discovery: Fontana, San Bernardino County, California
Estimated Date of Death: Hours prior
State of Remains: Recognizable face
Cause of Death: Unknown

Physical Description
Estimated Age: 20-30 years old
Race: Black
Sex: Female
Height: 5'7"
Weight: 142 lbs.
Hair Color: Black, short afro style hair.
Eye Color: Brown
Distinguishing Marks/Features: Multiple small scars, face, arms, legs, abdomen. Semicircular inverted C-shaped healed scar (4cm) above left eye. Irregular linear scar (2.2cm) above right eye. Scar over right hip (1.5X3.5cm). Several irregular scars to right arm, one 10cm in length. 3 piercings to each ear - no earrings present. Ornate toenail painting: Red (magenta) or hot pink with dots. Prosthetic fingernails.

Identifiers
Dentals: Available. All 32 permanent teeth present. No restorations.
Fingerprints: Available.
DNA: Available.

Clothing & Personal Items
Clothing: White tutu, ballet, evening dress, white satin undershirt on dress.
Jewelry: None.
Additional Personal Items: None.

Circumstances of Discovery
The victim was located in an open field west of Sierra Avenue, north of Riverside.

Investigating Agency(s)
Agency Name: San Bernardino County Sheriff Department - Coroner Division
Agency Contact Person: September Fonzi-Jones
Agency Phone Number: 909-387-2978
Agency E-Mail: [email protected]
Agency Case Number: 88-3637; Jane Doe #14-88

NCIC Case Number: U642400117
NamUs Case Number: 6429


STREET VIEW , HOWEVER SHE WAS FOUND AT AN OPEN FIELD, POSSIBLY THE VETERANS PARK?


Google Maps
 
  • #34
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@apearn , I see you're still active, did you ever hear anything about that girl missing in 1992? She is still the person who looks closest to this UID.
 
  • #35
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@apearn , I see you're still active, did you ever hear anything about that girl missing in 1992? She is still the person who looks closest to this UID.

No I didn't.
 
  • #36
No ruleouts listed in Namus.

The following were suggested upthread but resolved/no longer in Namus.
1. Anita Wiley - matched in 2020 to a set of unidentified remains
2. Janelle Johnson not in Namus, no MSM that I could find (there is a Janelle Johnson in Namus who went missing long after these remains were found)

These MPs suggested upthread all have ruleout lists; none list this set of remains.
1. Donna Cudrup (spelled Crudup in DoeNetwork and Namus) MP26375
2. Lesa Cunningham MP4030
3. Dorothy Williams MP13901
4. Deborah Rice MP27490
5. Rosa Westbrook MP12268
6. Lelisia Slade MP41709


So currently we seem to only have 2 confirmed ruleouts, from a post 10 years ago that indicated as of 21 June 2014 there were 2 ruleouts:
1. Jennifer Barton 1955 Texas
2. Sandra Steppuhn 1950 California
 

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