CA CA - Fullerton, WhtMale 30-45, UP7662, Jumped Into Oncoming Traffic, Nov'87

[YaYa_521]

(CAUTION: NamUs link contains postmortem images)

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4 exclusions:
-- Jame Boggs, -- -- KY
-- John Brown -- -- FL
MP29842 Scott Petersen 11/04/1987 Clark NV
-- Melvin Simpson -- -- CA

14UMCA

14UMCA - Unidentified Male​

Date of Discovery: November 28, 1987
Location of Discovery: Fullerton, Orange County, California
Estimated Date of Death: Minutes prior
State of Remains: Recognizable face
Cause of Death: Suicide - victim jumped into oncoming traffic.

Physical Description​

Estimated Age: 30-45 years old
Race: White
Sex: Male
Height: 6'0"
Weight: 247 lbs.
Hair Color: Unknown
Eye Color: Unknown
Distinguishing Marks/Features: Heavyset physique. He had a large oval-shaped burn scar on his abdomen. Uncircumcised. Waist size approximately 44"; chest approximately 40", shoe size 9.

Identifiers​

Dentals: Available
Fingerprints: Available
DNA: Samples submitted - Tests not complete

Clothing & Personal Items​

Clothing: Blue sweater; blue pants, size 44 x 34; and a brown and white shirt.
Jewelry: Unknown
Additional Personal Items: The victim wore glasses.

Circumstances of Discovery​

The victim killed himself by running in front of a truck. The truck was traveling along the Orange (57) Freeway just south of Imperial Highway in Brea when the driver noticed a man crouching beside the road.

Suddenly the man ran in front of the truck. The truck hit the man, who was pronounced dead at the scene.

Investigating Agency(s)​

Agency Name: Orange County Coroner's Office
Agency Contact Person: Scott Hayes
Agency Phone Number: 714-647-7411
Agency E-Mail: N/A
Agency Case Number: 87-05618-MA

NCIC Case Number: U306518020
NamUs Case Number: 7662

Information Source(s)​

NamUs
Orange County Sheriff-Coroner

Admin Notes​

Added: 12/18/05; Last Updated: 12/11/17

 

[Caring1]

Bump for JD

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4 Missing Person Exclusions

 

[Caring1]

Daniel Southers (25) missing from Fort Bragg, CA 2 months prior is 6’3” and 250 lbs. He is also noted to have a 1” scar on his abdomen.

Looks like a good possibility. Dental charts, DNA test results, and fingerprints are all available for identification.

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Thread 'CA - Daniel Southers, 25, Fort Bragg, 17 Sept 1987'

Aug 22, 2016

Daniel William “Danny” Southers
Mendocino County Sheriff's Office Case # 87-3486
NamUS MP # 22767

Daniel is 6 feet 3 inches tall, weight 250 pounds, and he had brown hair and hazel eyes. He had discoloration and scarring on his elbows, and a scar about an inch long on his abdomen. In the past, he has suffered fractures of the right arm, left leg, and nose. His last known garb is camouflage clothing and leather work boots.

Daniel is believed to have been involved in raising illicit marijuana. He was 25 years old when he left his Fort Bragg home at 9:30 AM on 17 September 1987. He was...

• burblestein
• Replies: 9
• Forum: 1980's Missing

 

[Caring1]

Submitted MP22767 Daniel Southers and UP7662 for comparison earlier today. I don’t expect a response until next week. Hopefully.

 

[ChatteringBirds]

Submitted MP22767 Daniel Southers and UP7662 for comparison earlier today. I don’t expect a response until next week. Hopefully.

Same state, he went missing just a few months earlier, similar appearance to John Doe, seems quite plausible.

Poor man, whomever he is.

Thanks for submitting.

 

[HopeRains]

I thought I had remembered this John Doe as maybe having a bus ticket (and maybe even Disneyland day pass in his possession) - am I thinking of the wrong case? I'm not seeing that info among possessions - anyone know?

Also, FYI - November 28, 1987, was a Saturday and included with Thanksgiving weekend.

 

[Caring1]

I have received a very detailed response regarding our submission of Fullerton JD and Danny Southers.

DNA profiles for both JD and representative familial profiles for Daniel are in the respective Missing and Unidentified Indexes at the State and also National levels. This means they would have been notified already of the potential match. However, in his personal experience with one of his cases, the system is “not foolproof”

He has requested a one-to-one comparison for a more definitive result. This is already in the works and he is currently waiting on the result.

Fingerprints for Daniel are in an electronic format not directly comparable with the electronic fingerprints related to JD. NamUs has been contacted for a direct fingerprint comparison between the two. Currently waiting results.

Finally, in a preliminary review of both dental charts, they do not appear to be the same. However, he is waiting to rule out these two subjects as a match once the results are received for either the DNA or fingerprints.

Above are the pertinent highlights. Hoping for an answer one way or another soon.

 

[alucardsdream]

I have received a very detailed response regarding our submission of Fullerton JD and Danny Southers.

DNA profiles for both JD and representative familial profiles for Daniel are in the respective Missing and Unidentified Indexes at the State and also National levels. This means they would have been notified already of the potential match. However, in his personal experience with one of his cases, the system is “not foolproof”

He has requested a one-to-one comparison for a more definitive result. This is already in the works and he is currently waiting on the result.

Fingerprints for Daniel are in an electronic format not directly comparable with the electronic fingerprints related to JD. NamUs has been contacted for a direct fingerprint comparison between the two. Currently waiting results.

Finally, in a preliminary review of both dental charts, they do not appear to be the same. However, he is waiting to rule out these two subjects as a match once the results are received for either the DNA or fingerprints.

Above are the pertinent highlights. Hoping for an answer one way or another soon.

This Doe does look a lot like Danny...I follow Danny's missing page on FB and his family doesn't think this is him because they don't believe Danny would have killed himself, but I don't know that his DNA was ever checked. Fingers crossed that this Doe gets identified soon, whether it's Danny or not.

 

[Caring1]

This Doe does look a lot like Danny...I follow Danny's missing page on FB and his family doesn't think this is him because they don't believe Danny would have killed himself, but I don't know that his DNA was ever checked. Fingers crossed that this Doe gets identified soon, whether it's Danny or not.

Thank you for your post. Based on the preliminary dentals, it doesn’t appear that this JD is Danny. Although, I do believe JD will be identified in the near future as FIGG is an option for him which is currently being considered.

 

[alucardsdream]

Thank you for your post. Based on the preliminary dentals, it doesn’t appear that this JD is Danny. Although, I do believe JD will be identified in the near future as FIGG is an option for him which is currently being considered.

Genetic genealogy has been such a gamechanger for cold cases like this...I hope it can help give this poor man his name back!

 

[ChatteringBirds]

Thanks for the work and updates, @Caring1 . I am glad they are being thorough. Every case deserves that.

 

[Caring1]

DNA comparison has proven that this JD is not a match to Daniel Southers.