GUILTY CA - Gianni, 24, & Sal Belvedere, 22, Ilona Flint, 22, San Diego, 24 Dec 2013 - #1

[nikb]

Thank you isn't enough for this post.

WS is not Topix. We don't post rumors, sleuth people who aren't named POIs, or blame the victims or their families. We also do not discriminate based on race, gender, sexual orientation, etc. There is a reason why WS is the only board I read and occasionally post on!

BBM could've fooled me the past few days. Honestly if some of those posts were the first ones I'd seen here, I never would've come back (thankfully IMO some of them have been heavily snipped or deleted). I'm very glad that didn't happen because I love and value these boards and I'm always inspired thinking maybe, just maybe, we can help.

Hope there's some new news today.

 

[SDHELPS]

On both KFMB and KNSD news this morning and last night they both stated the autopsy is scheduled for today and both said it could take 1-2 weeks for a positive identification (dentals, dna, etc.). I can't find it on msm but just a warning it could take a lot longer than we would like.

Practicing patience here.....

 

[SDHELPS]

There have been a few changes to the coroners file. Comments of death and age have been changed...

Coroner's File #: 2014-00621
Last Name: Name held pending ID Gender: Male
First Name: Age: Unknown
City of Residence: Unknown Next of Kin Notified: Yes
Date of Death: 01/17/2014 Time of Death: 1324 Hours
Date of Injury: Unknown Time of Injury: Unknown Hours
Location of Death: Parking Lot at 19586 Van Buren Blvd Riverside Ca
Location of Injury: Unknown
Agency Investigating: Riverside Police Department
Investigation #: P14-007758
Comments: Suspicious circumstances.

http://www.riversidesheriff.org/coroner/press/

Lord my heart goes out to this family and if nothing else I hope they at least get some answers today.

 

[kimmypie1]

On both KFMB and KNSD news this morning and last night they both stated the autopsy is scheduled for today and both said it could take 1-2 weeks for a positive identification (dentals, dna, etc.). I can't find it on msm but just a warning it could take a lot longer than we would like.

Practicing patience here.....

Sounds to me like the decomp is pretty significant. I just wish we knew if it was from the excessive heat + being in a car; or from being deceased for 3 or so weeks. Sounds gross sorry

 

[nikb]

There have been a few changes to the coroners file. Comments of death and age have been changed...

http://www.riversidesheriff.org/coroner/press/

Lord my heart goes out to this family and if nothing else I hope they at least get some answers today.

I hope so too. Sounds like it might be a bit longer but I'm sure the family wants answers so badly.

 

[lynxofsd]

...to shed some light on how I met Gianni, and knew he was going to school to be a doctor, was because I met him through friends...I brought him in for an interview at my company (I work for a drug development/pharmaceutical manufacturer). I told him when I met him [that] working in the manufacturing process of drugs would be great experience. To work in manufacturing you don't need any particular skill...just following a recipe and cGMP protocol...it's so easy a caveman could do it.

...[but] he didn't end up taking the job due to a schedule conflict.

I don't recall the school [Gianni attended]. I've been digging for his resume...I think it was UCSD but it may have been UCSD extension...I don't think it was UCR in Riverside.

I did know he worked at Mario's and I am not sure about the gluten free line of products...I think that may have been Ilona's thing due to her being gluten intolerant (I am not 100% on that...)

Sounds like he was a "pre-med" student or wanted to advance as one. I have no idea what kind of student Gianni was, but the washout rate of people with that goal is very high. There is just about zero chance that someone looking for a job of this nature would already be in medical school, and MSM would have already fleshed this out and reported it. (Med students involved in crimes, both as perps and victims, almost always get identified as such.)

I'm actually quite interested in how a young adult (Gianni) who seemed to be exploring a potential business opportunity in the food industry, but might have wanted to become an MD, ultimately interviewed for a job at a pharmaceutical manufacturer...but didn't take the job because of a "schedule conflict".

I guess he must have had some other serious commitments that ruled the pharma job out. Perhaps his spare time was really limited at the time of the job interview...maybe because of the job he had at the restaurant that ultimately closed?

He appears to have had rather broad interests. I imagine that's the way of the world for inquisitive people who look at any potential opportunity.

I'm interested in your comment about a "cGMP protocol". Does this relate to biochemistry somehow?

 

[Sandyggo]

Ilona was enrolled at Grossmont College. Med student or not, the news usually reports if they are college students. I have a feeling Gianni was not in college. He worked at the restaurant and was involved in the La Primavera business.

The La Primavera business was no little idea, when they were operating in Utah, they were furnishing several Costco warehouses with soups. That is no easy task.

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Re: Mario's in Lakeside. They announced they were closing in mid-December on their facebook account. They said the previous owner would take over.

But Mario's is not closed. I called them on the phone yesterday and they are open. They answered "Mario's.." Of course I have no idea whether the "new" owners are operating it now.

 

[Sunrisenow]

Body in trunk now called ‘suspicious’

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/jan/22/body-in-trunk-now-called-suspicious/

 

[FlamingoLady]

Body in trunk now called ‘suspicious’

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/jan/22/body-in-trunk-now-called-suspicious/

Would there be a dead body in a trunk that wasn't suspicious?
Sorry.....getting snarky. Need dinner...and some answers/info on this case!

 

[nikb]

Would there be a dead body in a trunk that wasn't suspicious?
Sorry.....getting snarky. Need dinner...and some answers/info on this case!

I was thinking the exact same thing... yeah because it's normally not suspicious to find bodies in trunks of cars that are being sought in a missing person investigation???

 

[chinacat67]

Body in trunk now called ‘suspicious’

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/jan/22/body-in-trunk-now-called-suspicious/

But the article clarifies that dumb headline to say they are reclassifying the death as a Suspicious Death rather than Homicide.

I wonder if that is the step away from murder and towards suicide?

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[IzzyBlanche]

I think what makes me anxious about high profile cases that occur
in San Diego is that we will be left with an inappropriate cause
of death like Rebecca Z.

I am a San Diego native and have
followed the crazy politics that can impact the investigations of cases that generate a lot of media interest. Therefore, I am glad Riverside is involved to some extent (via the coroner). It gives me a sense that some checks and balances are in place.

Yes, but Rebecca Z's case was investigated by the San Diego County Sheriff's Department. SDPD is investigating this one. I have a little more faith in SDPD in high-profile cases.

 

[Sandyggo]

I was going to add that as well, that thank goodness this is not an investigation under Sheriff Gore.

Gore was the FBI agent at Ruby Ridge. How did that turn out? Yes, innocent people dead.

But his incompetence was also ignoring leads about some Saudi nationals that were behaving suspiciously in San Diego. They didn't want to learn how to land the jets in the simulator at flight school.

FBI Gore's lack of sharing these details would be noted later when the students, who lived in Lemon Grove and San Diego, (and had been reported to him at the FBI agent in charge) hijacked the airliners that crashed into the World Trade Towers.

I have no idea how this bumbling baffoon continues to be elected. They need term limits for the office of Sheriff as well.

And the Rebecca Z case is the ultimate in a quickly closed, under-investigated case that IMO is no easier explained that corruption. We have a corrupt D.A. and Sheriff office here in Scam Diego. Today's news of campaign contribution corruption that has been linked to Bonnie Dumanis will hopefully drag here into the abyss her bury her corrupt reign once and for all.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

And wasn't it also the sheriff's department that decided the McStays had voluntarily disappeared themselves into Mexico, leaving essentials and their car and all their money behind, and their dogs with no food or shelter?

Those meddling kids from Scooby Doo would have been smarter than that!

 

[Curious Me]

I'm nodding in agreement about Gore. It's impossible to ignore his track record and reputation. It's comforting to know other people have noticed what goes on here too. It's interesting about those campaign contributions, as well.

Well, I heard the death has been neutralized for the time being to suspicious. Tomorrow will be a month since the mall shootings. Eventually, we'll get some answers. Patience, patience. :sigh:

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Quite a few years ago now, I had the opportunity to be present at an interview with an SDPD crime lab worker who worked on the David Westerfield case.

One thing that stands out in my mind is the discussion of how the crime lab was determinedly processing evidence even as the trial was going on.

If I recall correctly, and I well may not, some of the matching fiber evidence that helped convict him emerged from the crime lab well after the trial started.

This gives me confidence and hope that they are working just as hard to solve this case.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

I have no idea how this bumbling baffoon continues to be elected.

Respectfully snipped for focus:

Perhaps because the electorate is largely unaware of his history?

 

[IzzyBlanche]

I'm nodding in agreement about Gore. It's impossible to ignore his track record and reputation. It's comforting to know other people have noticed what goes on here too. It's interesting about those campaign contributions, as well.

Well, I heard the death has been neutralized for the time being to suspicious. Tomorrow will be a month since the mall shootings. Eventually, we'll get some answers. Patience, patience. :sigh:

I'm actually pleased about the reclassification from homicide to suspicious, because it indicates to me that investigators are being cautious and careful. They can always reclassify it as homicide if the evidence warrants, as far as I know.

 

[Sandyggo]

Thanks for your input Izzy. I have to apologize/share that my posts may not always make total sense. I try to proof them and correct my posts. I have to share that I have parkinson's disease so I may not catch my mistakes. I am following the McStay case and this case, as I live in San Diego and these are local cases.

I know that these are both difficult cases and I feel they both involved people close to the crime. I feel these are the hardest for investigators to solve.

I want to thank everyone who are following these cases and hopefully will help each other deal with the concern we have. At the end of the day, I don't want to shame anyone, I want the truth to come out and the perp to be punished.

We share here because we all know that unsolved crimes like these touch us, because we or our family and friends could be *these people* We share this so we can try to make sense of something that is nonsensical.

When I set this account up, my user name was suppose to be SandyEggo. But with things the way they are with me, I was lucky to get this name. Typing is a chore and proofreading even more difficult. It takes me 20 to 30 minutes to make a post like this and copy and paste it. Just to let those of you who keep posting your opinion of what kind of content should be posted here, consider yourselves fortunate to do so , so fast to people you don;t know what are facing every day.

 

[kimi_SFC]

Sounds like he was a "pre-med" student or wanted to advance as one. I have no idea what kind of student Gianni was, but the washout rate of people with that goal is very high. There is just about zero chance that someone looking for a job of this nature would already be in medical school, and MSM would have already fleshed this out and reported it. (Med students involved in crimes, both as perps and victims, almost always get identified as such.)

I'm actually quite interested in how a young adult (Gianni) who seemed to be exploring a potential business opportunity in the food industry, but might have wanted to become an MD, ultimately interviewed for a job at a pharmaceutical manufacturer...but didn't take the job because of a "schedule conflict".

I guess he must have had some other serious commitments that ruled the pharma job out. Perhaps his spare time was really limited at the time of the job interview...maybe because of the job he had at the restaurant that ultimately closed?

He appears to have had rather broad interests. I imagine that's the way of the world for inquisitive people who look at any potential opportunity.

I'm interested in your comment about a "cGMP protocol". Does this relate to biochemistry somehow?

The Food and Drug Administration handles oversight regarding cGMP in pharmaceutical manufacturing. I work for a chemotherapy manufacturer so I thought is chime in.

Here's the link

http://www.fda.gov/drugs/developmentapprovalprocess/manufacturing/ucm090016.htm

Not exactly light reading but it explains it. It's not exclusive to biochemistry, IME.


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