CA - Hasanni Campbell, 5, Oakland, 10 Aug 2009 - #2

[YellowSubmarine]

Ross told KTVU he has been voluntarily speaking with police daily and that on Friday he retraced his steps with investigators, showing them the auto salvage yard he had driven to with Hasanni hours before the boy disappeared.

Ross said he went there to locate a part for an old vehicle he's working on and that he had Hasanni with him the entire time

Ok, so makes more sense if he was looking for a part for an older car he's working on. Wonder, though, if neighbors can corraborate that. He also states here he had Hasanni with him the whole time. Doesn't that contradict an earlier statement from him? Does that mean he left the baby in the car but not Hasanni? Plus a poster earlier (sorry, can't remember who :waitasec: ) stated that according to the 800 # for the salvage yard, no one under 16 was allowed in. Soooo . . . .

 

[Columbo]

I think their neighborhood has a community pool. I wonder if the police asked anyone if they had ever been there with the kids?

It seems like swimming--or water exercises--would be great for Hasanni--therapeutic for his condition. But I am not an expert.

 

[panthera]

Hello Everyone,

(snipped for space)

Wanted to let you all know that now LR says he went to the junk yard to look for a part for an older car he is working on. Gee makes me wonder if he's reading here or at other blogs/forums...we all have questioned as to why the beemer would need a part.



raying: that Hassani is found soon!

:angel:

I was thinking the same thing ~ all of a sudden we now find out why he was at the salvage yard!!!


I'm hoping you feel better soon. :blowkiss:

 

[WhyaDuck?]

It seems like swimming--or water exercises--would be great for Hasanni--therapeutic for his condition. But I am not an expert.

"Swimming can be one way of providing therapy for a person with cerebral palsy. Unlike other therapeutic methods, swimming can actually be safe because there is no possibility of hurting one’s self by falling down. All swim therapy for cerebral palsy patients should take place only under the supervision of a qualified swim therapist, however. The warmth of a heated swim area can also provide relief from muscle stiffness or pain. Water provides buoyancy as well, which alleviates the stress on the body that gravity causes. Swim exercise and movements can help in losing weight and building muscle strength. Swim therapy for cerebral palsy can also help in developing coordination as well."

http://www.cerebralpalsysource.com/Treatment_and_Therapy/swimming/index.html

 

[Columbo]

That would definitely explain the change in careers, but I'd think it would be difficult for anyone with blemishes in their background to get into the medical field ~ especially at Stanford Univ., or a large hospital like that. MOO

You know, I thought that he was taking a medical course at Stanford, too, but then I read that the course he was taking was in Hayward (I think--at least, it was not at Stanford). Does anyone remember the reason why he was making a trip over to Stanford --I think it was the night that Hasanni was abducted? I could be wrong.

 

[Noway]

Regardless of what car he was fixing, I'd like to know

1. Were both kids were with him (news reports only mention Hasanni, maybe because he is the one who is missing)
2. Did he get out of the car or not? (If no, was it because children are not allowed on lot?)
3. Did anyone at the salvage yard see the child(ren)? And when?

 

[Paulette]

All the questions we would like to know the answers to have already been asked by LE. Oh how I wish we had a mole in the Police Dept. Geez Louise...there are leaks all the time! I'd like to be a fly on the wall of the PD. Well maybe not, can you imagine how boring it would be listening to the same old, tired lies from the bad guys? You can't even smack their hands or wash out their mouths for lying.

 

[Columbo]

I think that at the very least bio mom had access to the kids, with the knowledge of the fosters. I don't know if they were leaving the kids with her, or just allowing her to see them, but I do feel as if one or the other was going on.

There's something that isn't adding up about bio mom, but I can't put my finger on it. I feel like I am overlooking something huge in regards to her. I just don't know what it is yet.

Well, reports are that in addition to having CP she also has drug problems...maybe that's the mystery element?

 

[Noway]

I was thinking the same thing ~ all of a sudden we now find out why he was at the salvage yard!!!


I'm hoping you feel better soon. :blowkiss:

Well, according to LR, the salvage yard is not important because the last place he was seen was in the driveway/alley ... I saw him on the TV saying he would not question why police were searching there, that it was not his place to tell LE how to do their jobs, but he wished they would focus on the last place he was seen (I paraphrased that).

 

[Shutterfly]

"Swimming can be one way of providing therapy for a person with cerebral palsy. Unlike other therapeutic methods, swimming can actually be safe because there is no possibility of hurting one’s self by falling down. All swim therapy for cerebral palsy patients should take place only under the supervision of a qualified swim therapist, however. The warmth of a heated swim area can also provide relief from muscle stiffness or pain. Water provides buoyancy as well, which alleviates the stress on the body that gravity causes. Swim exercise and movements can help in losing weight and building muscle strength. Swim therapy for cerebral palsy can also help in developing coordination as well."

http://www.cerebralpalsysource.com/Treatment_and_Therapy/swimming/index.html

Hey Whya....I'm not too bright when it comes to CP and your post kinda upsets me. Muscle pain and stiffness? CP is painful?:cry:
Poor Hasanni...........

ETA..okay apparently I'm not too bright when it comes to a lot of things today. I didn't even see the link....DUH! sowwy

 

[panthera]

Ok, so makes more sense if he was looking for a part for an older car he's working on. Wonder, though, if neighbors can corraborate that. He also states here he had Hasanni with him the whole time. Doesn't that contradict an earlier statement from him? Does that mean he left the baby in the car but not Hasanni? Plus a poster earlier (sorry, can't remember who :waitasec: ) stated that according to the 800 # for the salvage yard, no one under 16 was allowed in. Soooo . . . .

(bolding mine)

How can it be both ways? I was under the impression from previous statments that Hasanni and the toddler were left in the car while he was looking for parts. Now how could he have Hasanni with him the whole time, especially if they were walking around the salvage yard? And, yes, that would also mean the toddler was left in the car alone!! :waitasec: This is making less and less sense!! MOO

 

[YellowSubmarine]

Well, according to LR, the salvage yard is not important because the last place he was seen was in the driveway/alley ... I saw him on the TV saying he would not question why police were searching there, that it was not his place to tell LE how to do their jobs, but he wished they would focus on the last place he was seen (I paraphrased that).

BBM -

Well, I'd say originally LE did focus on the alley but something obviously led them to feel they needed to spread out miles away from that area and search other places.


I'm no expert here, but I don't think LE is going to send investigators miles away from where a child was abducted just for the heck of it.



ETA: Wanted to say I wasn't directing this to you, Noway, but to LR's comment --

 

[panthera]

You know, I thought that he was taking a medical course at Stanford, too, but then I read that the course he was taking was in Hayward (I think--at least, it was not at Stanford). Does anyone remember the reason why he was making a trip over to Stanford --I think it was the night that Hasanni was abducted? I could be wrong.

I read it was a job orientation that evening, then he was to go to his medical asst. class in, I think, Union City. MOO

 

[WhyaDuck?]

Hey Whya....I'm not too bright when it comes to CP and your post kinda upsets me. Muscle pain and stiffness? CP is painful?:cry:
Poor Hasanni...........

Yes, the atrophy and inability to use certain muscle groups can cause pain. Sort of like when you sit in the same position for a long, long time - only, you can't just get up and stretch the places that hurt. CP sufferers often require a lot of specialized physio and massage.

"Children with cerebral palsy (CP) face many challenges including impaired motor control and coordination, functional impairment, sensory disturbances, and, sometimes, communication difficulties and cognitive deficits. Pain also may be a problem for children with CP due in part to the inherent deficits associated with the disease, as well as the invasive medical and surgical procedures and rehabilitative activities children with CP undergo on a regular basis. A review of current literature indicates pain is a common experience for children with CP and has been understudied in this population. Further emphasis and research on appropriate assessment and management strategies sensitive to the unique characteristics and limitations of children with CP are warranted."

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/491005


ETA: The only reason I know this is I work helping special needs university students write their exams in accommodating conditions, and have a lot of CP kids who need particular conditions if sitting a long exam. Far from an expert myself.

ETA Pt 2: BTW, this in no way applies to everyone with CP, and conditions vary widely based on the needs/challenges of the individual person. (Just covering my butt before someone crawls up it with their cleats on...)

 

[Columbo]

I read it was a job orientation that evening, then he was to go to his medical asst. class in, I think, Union City. MOO

Yes-- that sounds right!! Thank you, panthera!!

 

[panthera]

Well, according to LR, the salvage yard is not important because the last place he was seen was in the driveway/alley ... I saw him on the TV saying he would not question why police were searching there, that it was not his place to tell LE how to do their jobs, but he wished they would focus on the last place he was seen (I paraphrased that).

I have to disagree with him Every place he was that day is important especially if it could be the "abduction" wasn't random and somebody could've followed him there. If it were my child who really had been abducted, I would completely understand why LE needed to retrace my steps. MOO

 

[panthera]

Yes-- that sounds right!! Thank you, panthera!!

You're welcome ~ remembering all these different locations, though, is confusing me!! :crazy:

 

[YellowSubmarine]

I have to disagree with him Every place he was that day is important especially if it could be the "abduction" wasn't random and somebody could've followed him there. If it were my child who really had been abducted, I would completely understand why LE needed to retrace my steps. MOO

ITA -- Who knows what may have happened throughout the course of their day that LR didn't realize was important. Sometimes it takes outsiders looking in to find those important details/clues

What if the kidnapper turned out to be a pedophile who was working or visiting the salvage yard?

 

[not_my_kids]

Well, reports are that in addition to having CP she also has drug problems...maybe that's the mystery element?

nope, I didn't need the news to tell me that one. Twas a bit obvious from the video. If her demeanor hadn't told me, the rest of the video would have.
The broken blinds from paranoids yanking on them too hard to see outside.
The generalized mess, with the exception of a big clear spot in the middle of the room so that everyone can stand together.
The only thing of value in the apartment in plain view so that it can be watched.

More something that you can't see, something in her thought processes, something in the way that she looks at the cameraman, she is almost giving all of us (The public) a look of "How stupid can you be?"

I almost know what it is, but not yet. I hope she does another interview, I want to know what's going on in her mind.

 

[Noway]

I have to disagree with him Every place he was that day is important especially if it could be the "abduction" wasn't random and somebody could've followed him there. If it were my child who really had been abducted, I would completely understand why LE needed to retrace my steps. MOO

I guess retracing made sense to him but not necessarily the searching of ... I'd never thought of someone following them.

Is anyone keeping track of a timeline? If there is a thread, please let me know.

ETA: For some reason I was thinking that the salvage yard visit was in the a.m., then LR went home, then he went to drop off kids.