CA CA - Heidi Planck, 39, left son’s football game in Downey, dog found in Los Angeles, 17 Oct 2021 #2

[slowpoke]

Was it only a temporary order? Meaning it could be reversed later if Heidi returns?

Yes, in the video they show the document. It says Temporary emergency (ex parte) order.

At about 1:16 in the video
Information Continues to Develop in Heidi Planck Missing Persons Case

 

[bears10]

Right? Who would object if the other party is missing? Hospitals don't have custody agreements on file. But I do get what the other poster is pointing out.

Right, like who is going to contest it if the other parent isn’t there? Do you know how many things my husbands ex wife has done without his consent? Lol no doctor or medical professional ever said “oh sorry I can’t see your kid until I have the fathers consent”

 

[Ducky123]

That will be interesting to find out.

There are other current cases that court for a big decision was hasty.

It was a temporary emergency order.

 

[MrsWatson]

It was a temporary emergency order.

I'm glad to see that.

 

[Ducky123]

It was a temporary emergency order.

Also, totally IMO, it is very rare for a mother in CA to have to fight very very hard for 50/50 custody unless there are other things going on. Will delete if against TOS.

eta her friends off hand comment about a “custody battle” might have been overblown as well. I know if I was going through a divorce, however painful, I’d be confiding in my friends all of the pain and icky stuff. Even the simplest divorces involving kids are painful.

 

[Fleur-de-lis]

I have lost the gist of the case despite reading the threads and the media thread. It just seems so, so fishy to me, so irritating that there isn't video to help see where her car went, entering the Hope & Flower apts, the timing of these wellness checks /muffin drops at her home, and then not doing anything for several days. Not accusing anyone, but it just all seems really strange and Occam's Razor thinking leads me to a very dark but well-trodden road. MOO.

 

[bears10]

Also, I know someone else stated that in their location, 50/50 means no child support. This is not necessarily the case in NY. So California could be the same as NY. It goes by income, so the kids have the same standard of living at both houses.

 

[Ducky123]

Also, I know someone else stated that in their location, 50/50 means no child support. This is not necessarily the case in NY. So California could be the same as NY. It goes by income, so the kids have the same standard of living at both houses.

It’s by income here as well. Both parties in this case have potentially very variable income, so mods to child support don’t surprise me.

 

[bears10]

It’s by income here as well. Both parties in this case have potentially very variable income, so mods to child support don’t surprise me.

I think a child support mod when someone has been missing for a couple of days is odd. If that’s what happened. I don’t know if it was a CS mod or just a custody mod. this website makes my phone bug out and drains my battery so it’s not easy to go back and look for links. But I think even a custody mod so quickly is odd.

 

[Gobstopper]

I totally disagree. I would guess a child therapist, of all medical professionals, would have a lot of experience with divorced parents, and some in contentious situations (not implying this one is one of those cases, we don’t know enough). For sure an intake form for a minor would ask the relationship between the parents (married, divorced, single). It would be a CYA thing if I was therapist. I really don’t think it’s a big issue at all.

Even if the other parent was missing and the appointment was about the effect of the parent being missing?

 

[bears10]

Even if the other parent was missing and the appointment was about the effect of the parent being missing?

My stepkids have been to multiple medical professionals without my husband consenting. Not in a nefarious way, but just things their mom took them to without my husband being there. When I was younger my mom took me to everything, my dad never did that stuff, and my parents were married to each other. I don’t think it’s automatically assumed that parents are divorced and both need to give written consent.

 

[ringbearer]

What therapist would say no in this situation? Imo I don’t think it’s really that necessary to obtain custody for the purpose of therapy. JME as a stepmom

The doc would have to get the consent of whichever parent is authorized to give it, in order to provide therapy for a minor. Just like any other kind of medical care. In my situation, that would have meant both of us would have to have consented. Otherwise the doctor legally could not provide the service unless s/he was willing to take his chances. Much easier to change the order under the circumstances in my case where my child's father was hospitalized for months and was in danger of dying, and more so in this one, I imagine. jmo.

 

[ringbearer]

My stepkids have been to multiple medical professionals without my husband consenting. Not in a nefarious way, but just things their mom took them to without my husband being there. When I was younger my mom took me to everything, my dad never did that stuff, and my parents were married to each other. I don’t think it’s automatically assumed that parents are divorced and both need to give written consent.

If the are married, both parents always have the right to make medical decisions for their kids without the other's consent. It's not the same in divorce situations where the custody agreement spells out joint decision-making authority. Does your husband and his ex have joint decision-making in their custody agreement? If not, or if no one cares and isn't going to enforce it, it's no big deal. Which would explain your situation.

 

[ringbearer]

Was it only a temporary order? Meaning it could be reversed later if Heidi returns?

Custody orders can always be changed upon application at any time based on the best interests of the child, if situations impacting those interests have materially changed. jmo

 

[ringbearer]

I think a child support mod when someone has been missing for a couple of days is odd. If that’s what happened. I don’t know if it was a CS mod or just a custody mod. this website makes my phone bug out and drains my battery so it’s not easy to go back and look for links. But I think even a custody mod so quickly is odd.

Where I am, support is based on parenting time and income. A parent with 0% parenting time (like someone hospitalized or missing) would have their parenting time changed to zero on the custody part of the order, and the child support would be modified at the same time on that basis.

 

[CharlestonGal]

At about 1:37 in the video in this article it says "Father is awarded sole legal and sole physical custody of the parties minor child".

To me, it sounds as if - if Heidi is alive - she will have to go back to court and try to regain her shared custody arrangement later on, and perhaps go through another custody battle.

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Information Continues To Mount In Heidi Planck Missing Person Case

I have to say, I believe this is the first case where I've seen a missing person immediately and completely stripped of custody. For apparently nothing more than being missing. If I ever go missing, I hope my relatives have the decency to at least wait more than a week before jumping into court to seize my estate. moo

 

[bears10]

The doc would have to get the consent of whichever parent is authorized to give it, in order to provide therapy for a minor. Just like any other kind of medical care. In my situation, that would have meant both of us would have to have consented. Otherwise the doctor legally could not provide the service unless s/he was willing to take his chances. Much easier to change the order under the circumstances in my case where my child's father was hospitalized for months and was in danger of dying, and more so in this one, I imagine. jmo.

my point is, that when parents are still married, it’s not an issue. So why would doctors automatically assume they need to get consent of both parents? My husband has never had to give consent to a doctor or get consent from his ex wife. They’ve never been asked to do so.

 

[ringbearer]

I have to say, I believe this is the first case where I've seen a missing person immediately and completely stripped of custody. For apparently nothing more than being missing. If I ever go missing, I hope my relatives have the decency to at least wait more than a week before jumping into court to seize my estate. moo

She hasn't been stripped of custody. The Judge has merely determined that there is only one parent currently available to exercise physical and legal custody, so, for now, it's in the child's best interests for the parent who is not missing to have that custody. It really has nothing to do with who is right or wrong or a better parent in these circumstances. Purely a legal issue. all jmo

 

[Gobstopper]

I think mental health services for a child whose mother is missing qualifies as an emergency and that the court would too. To me it seems like someone is manipulative. Perhaps it is about the money. A previous post said follow the money. MOO

 

[bears10]

If the are married, both parents always have the right to make medical decisions for their kids without the other's consent. It's not the same in divorce situations where the custody agreement spells out joint decision-making authority. Does your husband and his ex have joint decision-making in their custody agreement? If not, or if no one cares and isn't going to enforce it, it's no big deal. Which would explain your situation.

well he claims they have such an amicable coparenting situation, so it shouldn’t be a huge deal if he took their kid to a doctor while she was missing. Right? Jmo