CA CA - Heidi Planck, 39, left son’s football game in Downey, dog found in Los Angeles, 17 Oct 2021 #2

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  • #521
I agree that it's unlikely that a devoted mother would voluntarily disappear, but there are a lot of missing pieces to this puzzle. IF she voluntarily disappeared and is safe, a check of her bank withdrawals and credit/debit card activity will be most helpful in tracking her down. JMHO
We've definitely seen cases where Moms, who everyone said would never leave their kids- did. <modsnip>

It would be wonderful if that happens here!!
 
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  • #522
A seasoned reporter with IMO obvious connections in LA, and to friends of Heidi reported that a lot of Heidi’s friends have also been called by purported SEC representative.
She could have misspoken but I don’t think she did. She is very measured and professional.
Comments about SEC calls about half-way rhepugh.
Mom disappears after last seen in Downey; Her dog found safe

Maybe we have been duped into wandering around in rhe rabbit hole, too.
There is more likely a scam going on that somehow is targeting people associated with Heidi, as bizarre as that sounds.
The SEC doesn’t just call random friends, acquaintances, or ex husbands tied with a strangely missing person event.
In fact, 99.99% of the time they would contact the lawyer representing someone under investigation. It’s not a fishing expedition chatting it up with random associates to see what they might know about a person. SEC responds and investigates, brings charges either through internal analysis, investor complaints, maybe a whistleblower.
And the process starts with a Subpoena of the person being investigated. Lawyers would be representing. The process takes years. Look at how long JS has been floating around.
I don’t see how Heidi could have felt threatened or in imminent danger from the SEC.

IMOO MOO
 
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  • #523
I agree that it's unlikely that a devoted mother would voluntarily disappear, but there are a lot of missing pieces to this puzzle. IF she voluntarily disappeared and is safe, a check of her bank withdrawals and credit/debit card activity will be most helpful in tracking her down. JMHO
Mr Ex said LE told him she didn’t have much money in her accounts but who knows what that means. He claims to have received her bank statements from HP’s employer’s personal
Assistant but did not look at them, just forwarded to police. The interview has been posted previously.
 
  • #524
ADMIN NOTE:

Please move on from the post-disappearance custody order aspect. After numerous pages of to and fro, it's become a bit tedious and in some instances the speculation is entering into the realm of not victim friendly.

Given Heidi was the Financial Controller in a company where the CEO and many within the company are under investigation by the SEC for a $43 million theft of pension funds, I know where I'd put my money (or not ?? ;))
 
  • #525
Mr Ex said LE told him she didn’t have much money in her accounts but who knows what that means. He claims to have received her bank statements from HP’s employer’s personal
Assistant but did not look at them, just forwarded to police. The interview has been posted previously.
Would LE tell JW she didn't have much money in her accounts?
Why would JS's personal assistant provide HP's bank statements to JW? What would be the point of that? And why did JW think he needed to say he didn't look at them?

I don't know if I believe any of this. Maybe JW obtained the bank statements from her computer and then said they came from JS. And maybe he said he didn't look at them because he really did look at them. He hasn't been consistent in most things he's said.. MOO
 
  • #526
A seasoned reporter with IMO obvious connections in LA, and to friends of Heidi reported that a lot of Heidi’s friends have also been called by purported SEC representative.
She could have misspoken but I don’t think she did. She is very measured and professional.
Comments about SEC calls about half-way rhepugh.
Mom disappears after last seen in Downey; Her dog found safe

Maybe we have been duped into wandering around in rhe rabbit hole, too.
There is more likely a scam going on that somehow is targeting people associated with Heidi, as bizarre as that sounds.
The SEC doesn’t just call random friends, acquaintances, or ex husbands tied with a strangely missing person event.
In fact, 99.99% of the time they would contact the lawyer representing someone under investigation. It’s not a fishing expedition chatting it up with random associates to see what they might know about a person. SEC responds and investigates, brings charges either through internal analysis, investor complaints, maybe a whistleblower.
And the process starts with a Subpoena of the person being investigated. Lawyers would be representing. The process takes years. Look at how long JS has been floating around.
I don’t see how Heidi could have felt threatened or in imminent danger from the SEC.

IMOO MOO
I caught that today too, but thought surely the reporter misspoke. But since you're pointing it out, how weird is it? Now you have me thinking of the very first person who pointed to her employer and said the SEC called him.

Who in heaven's name would pull that kind of a stunt and WHY? I wish a reporter would call LE and ask them about the purported calls, or at least ask D on camera if she received a call and if she told LE about it.
 
  • #527
A seasoned reporter with IMO obvious connections in LA, and to friends of Heidi reported that a lot of Heidi’s friends have also been called by purported SEC representative.
She could have misspoken but I don’t think she did. She is very measured and professional.
Comments about SEC calls about half-way rhepugh.
Mom disappears after last seen in Downey; Her dog found safe

Maybe we have been duped into wandering around in rhe rabbit hole, too.
There is more likely a scam going on that somehow is targeting people associated with Heidi, as bizarre as that sounds.
The SEC doesn’t just call random friends, acquaintances, or ex husbands tied with a strangely missing person event.
In fact, 99.99% of the time they would contact the lawyer representing someone under investigation. It’s not a fishing expedition chatting it up with random associates to see what they might know about a person. SEC responds and investigates, brings charges either through internal analysis, investor complaints, maybe a whistleblower.
And the process starts with a Subpoena of the person being investigated. Lawyers would be representing. The process takes years. Look at how long JS has been floating around.
I don’t see how Heidi could have felt threatened or in imminent danger from the SEC.

IMOO MOO
I think she could've felt she was in danger from the SEC if she thought she was communicating with the SEC but it was an imposter making threats. MOO
 
  • #528
I caught that today too, but thought surely the reporter misspoke. But since you're pointing it out, how weird is it? Now you have me thinking of the very first person who pointed to her employer and said the SEC called him.

Who in heaven's name would pull that kind of a stunt and WHY? I wish a reporter would call LE and ask them about the purported calls, or at least ask D on camera if she received a call and if she told LE about it.
It does seem like something LE could/should address soon? Like confirm it’s real or not.
 
  • #529
ADMIN NOTE:

Please move on from the post-disappearance custody order aspect. After numerous pages of to and fro, it's become a bit tedious and in some instances the speculation is entering into the realm of not victim friendly.

Given Heidi was the Financial Controller in a company where the CEO and many within the company are under investigation by the SEC for a $43 million theft of pension funds, I know where I'd put my money (or not ?? ;))
I'm gonna say "not" JMO
 
  • #530
Mr Ex said LE told him she didn’t have much money in her accounts but who knows what that means. He claims to have received her bank statements from HP’s employer’s personal Assistant but did not look at them, just forwarded to police. The interview has been posted previously.

There are just so many things I would like to say about this claim made by the ex in the interview referenced. First and foremost, unless he is personal friends with investigators working the case, I cannot imagine them discussing her bank accounts with him. It would be highly unprofessional, imo, to say the least, and could even jeopardize the ongoing investigation, if it actually occurred. Again, he is a FORMER spouse, not her spouse, and no longer her family. Hasn't been for several years. Secondly, according to the news story posted here multiple times today, he allegedly took her work laptop and personal phone from her home on Oct 20, and kept them about a week and a half before turning them over to LE, but we are to believe that he was handed her bank statements, but didn't look at them, but instead just forwarded them to police? And thirdly, has LE been able to do such a thorough investigation into her finances at this point that they are certain that all the money she had was in the bank statements that JS allegedly had possession of? Maybe, but if she was smart enough to allegedly siphon money from him and get away with it for a period of time, I would assume that she would have been smart enough to put it somewhere other than her checking account. Just sayin'. I am almost inclined to call BS on most, if not all of this claim. JMO
 
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There are just so many things I would like to say about this claim made by the ex in the interview referenced. First and foremost, unless he is personal friends with investigators working the case, I cannot imagine them discussing her bank accounts with him. It would be highly unprofessional, imo, to say the least, if it actually occurred. Again, he is a FORMER spouse, not her spouse, and no longer family. Secondly, according to the news story posted here multiple times today, he allegedly took her work laptop and personal phone from her home on Oct 20, and kept them about a week and a half before turning them over to LE, but we are to believe that he was handed her bank statements, but didn't look at them, but instead just forwarded them to police? And thirdly, has LE been able to do such a thorough investigation into her finances at this point that they are certain that all the money she had was in the bank statements that JS allegedly had possession of? Maybe, but if she was smart enough to allegedly siphon money from him and get away with it for a period of time, I would assume that she would have been smart enough to put it somewhere other than her checking account. Just sayin'. I am almost inclined to call BS on this entire claim. JMO
I've already called BS
 
  • #532
No idea. Maybe CA is weird? My ex is the one who set our daughter up to get braces. I never had to sign anything. I set her up with a new pediatrician and did all the consent forms myself. My ex was never asked to sign anything. I'm also the one who took her to therapy when she developed anxiety as a teen. I was never asked for her father's consent to anything. We both had occasions to take her to the ER or urgent care on our share time.

I've never had a doctor or dentist or therapist ask for the other parent for anything. Much less for custody documents. As long as one parent was present, that is all they required. But maybe that's just my state. We were in a 50/50 time share as well. No child support either way as our incomes were comparable.

Even when I was deployed and my time share was 0% the custody orders were not amended as it was seen as a temporary situation. He carried on taking her to the dentist, doctor, therapist while I was out of the country without any kind of problem. In fact, I was legally protected from him doing something like this (gaining full legal and physical custody in my absence). That may be because I was active duty and protected under the Soldiers and Sailors Relief Act. moo


A doctor isn’t required to ask & isn’t required to get consent from multiple guardians—if there are multiple. Most likely the both party consent it’s a requirement of their particular parental custody agreement & dad is working to remain in compliance with that.
 
  • #533
Mr Ex said LE told him she didn’t have much money in her accounts but who knows what that means. He claims to have received her bank statements from HP’s employer’s personal
Assistant but did not look at them, just forwarded to police. The interview has been posted previously.


How would he know she doesn’t have much money in her account if he didn’t look in her records?
 
  • #534
Not sleuthing anyone in particular, but I'm leaning toward the Sugar man is not a POI. IMO
 
  • #535
How would he know she doesn’t have much money in her account if he didn’t look in her records?
JW said LE told him that, after he sent them her bank records.
 
  • #536
Not sleuthing anyone in particular, but I'm leaning toward the Sugar man is not a POI. IMO
I'll forever think of him as the Muffin Man now, lol. I agree though.
 
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  • #538
On one side, we have this idea that this all is related to a fraud investigation. But it almost seems too obvious. Would you make someone disappear when you were already the target of a major investigation and it was likely that you'd be considered a suspect in that disappearance from the word go?

On the other side, we have a situation where this fraud investigation seems to create a nice detractor for someone committing a more run-of-the-mill nefarious action. But there is just no motive. All relationships seemed to be cordial and healthy.

Of course, this may be a situation involving someone who is not known to anyone as an associate of Heidi's. It might even be someone who was a complete stranger. She may have interacted with someone on purpose for some reason or was simply the victim of a random criminal.

And, lastly, it seems that Heidi had a lot going on in her personal and work life. We can't rule out that her disappearance was voluntary.
 
  • #539
Yes, it looks like divorce was granted in 2012, but JW has filed petitions to modify multiple times over the last several years. Looking at the documents, it looks like the most recent was 2/19/21 and is still pending.
He has made it seem like they still had a good relationship but I wonder if that's true.

If I had an ex who took me to court several times during a 10-year period to adjust child support or custody, I don't think I would be very happy with him. The cost and time to fight a single petition is enormous. If he filed three times, she would have been paying to retain an attorney nearly the entire 10 years. Yeah, I don't think I'd be happy with him at all.
 
  • #540
On one side, we have this idea that this all is related to a fraud investigation. But it almost seems too obvious. Would you make someone disappear when you were already the target of a major investigation and it was likely that you'd be considered a suspect in that disappearance from the word go?

On the other side, we have a situation where this fraud investigation seems to create a nice detractor for someone committing a more run-of-the-mill nefarious action. But there is just no motive. All relationships seemed to be cordial and healthy.

Of course, this may be a situation involving someone who is not known to anyone as an associate of Heidi's. It might even be someone who was a complete stranger. She may have interacted with someone on purpose for some reason or was simply the victim of a random criminal.

And, lastly, it seems that Heidi had a lot going on in her personal and work life. We can't rule out that her disappearance was voluntary.
I'd like to know if the embezzlement allegation that was supposedly said to JW by JS assistant was a JW concoction to justify having her bank statements or an actual conversation with the assistant. JS bringing muffins to someone stealing from him doesn't make sense.
Paying child support is a motive.
And I'd like to know what the BF was doing that day. MOO
 
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