CA CA - Jennifer Wilmer, 21, Willow Creek, 13 Sept 1993

  • #161
Well believe it or not Mingo may not have been nickname at all. I did happen to come across a Mingo who was Jennifer's age, that was living in Arcata in 1993. And not sure what is supposed to be done with the info, Call him and be like, Hey you know Jennfier Wilmer? Yeah I dont think so. But the fact is Maybe Mingo was not a nickname at all and his legal name. I also found an Opie of about the same age group. Opie was his real Legal name as well. However I don't find him in any public records living so far up north. He was from around the San Fransisco area. But what good is the information its not like I'm calling them to inquire.

You know, I was wondering why the third roommate was just "Rebecca" instead of having a nickname like the others. But you raise a great point--maybe Mingo, Opie, and Rebecca were all real names.
 
  • #162
I suppose there are a lot of possibilities. The fact that they shaved their dreads makes me wonder about them and their involvement as well. And one of the roommates took off not sure if he or she was ever questioned. Again would be great for Jess the cousin to come back and answer some questions. I have written her a PM but have had no reply.

Truth is there are many scenarios. From Running away, Suicide and Murder. What if it was something more simple than that. Maybe she really did go for that walk that morning to visit whatever farm or travel agency, and just forgot to grab her id and bankcard. I know I have done it. And on her way down the road she tripped over an untied shoelace or got scared by an animal and fell over the side of the mountain. Injured to the point of unable to move or scream for help and passed away laying in the wooded area where she fell.

Anything is possible.
 
  • #163
Wonder who gave the info that she was going to the farm?

Just seems odd to me that if that were the case she would leave her ID at home.

I agree entirely. Leaving everything at home seems odd.
 
  • #164
Below I've linked a post I wrote for the Danielle Nicole Brooks (Bertolini) thread. She is a young woman currently missing from Fortuna, south of Arcata and Eureka. She was involved with growing. I used to live in Southern Humboldt County (SoHum) and my post gives some information about missing persons and marijuana in Humboldt. People were being murdered before we left in 1984.

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - CA CA - Danielle Nicole Brooks, 23, Fortuna, 29 Jan 2014


If Jennifer left in September and was planning to be gone for an extended period (assuming the note is hers), I'm quite sure she was going to a pot farm to help with the harvest and processing. It would have been somewhere outside of Willow Creek, not in town. Even though the farmers said she never arrived, they may not have told the truth.

Sad to say, people sometimes do not come back from these farms. In January 2013, a young man from southern CA disappeared in SoHum after coming to work on a farm. His body was found in December because of an anonymous tip.

Thanks. I was going to mention this. There are quite a few pot farm operations in the area. Been up there a few times in the 1990's as a teen. She could have easily met with foul play on a farm. There is a lot of paranoia amongst growers in those areas, pretty sketchy. If that was the "farm" she is referring to, it is very possible she left her ID, etc at home. I am so not judging that at all, just saying those are pretty sketchy jobs.
 
  • #165
Thanks. I was going to mention this. There are quite a few pot farm operations in the area. Been up there a few times in the 1990's as a teen. She could have easily met with foul play on a farm. There is a lot of paranoia amongst growers in those areas, pretty sketchy. If that was the "farm" she is referring to, it is very possible she left her ID, etc at home. I am so not judging that at all, just saying those are pretty sketchy jobs.

Thanks for that perspective LucyOso,
I think that's a plausible reason to consider. If there had been a Police raid on The Farm while workers were there, I can see why people would not take any information with them to identify themselves.
I think that Jennifer had already made contact with The Farm before she left on the day she disappeared. The Farm may have also said to her don't bring ID' - which is precarious and dangerous because...
1) If something happened to Jennifer by someone on The Farm, she couldn't be identified immediately or easily.
2) If Jennifer had been absconded by anyone on the way to The Farm she could not prove that she was a local - which could have been critical if someone thought she was an outsider.

Maybe if a new investigation was opened, things like; taking ID or personal belongings to work, could be verified. What was the protocol to work in these places?
There must be some Farm workers who could shed some light on the situation back then.

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  • #166
Trolling through the papers again... ;)

IMHO - This may explain a few things concerning Jennifers case -
A possible alternative motive for Jennifers disappearance
Why Jennifer's case was not investigated thoroughly at the time
Why Police refused to take a Missing Persons Statement from Susan Wilmer
What was happening in the area (Hawkins Bar) at the time in 1992-1993
The local crowd.

Bear with me - long post...
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The Hawkins Bar 8
Gary Summar's murder happened in Oct 2 1991 in Trinity County.
Although 8 people from Hawkins Bar were arrested - 15-20 people were involved...
Source: On the evening of Oct. 2, a mob of 15 to 20 people beat and stomped Summar before a smaller group dragged him away and stabbed him at least 70 times, authorities said.

14 months later....

December 27, 1992
Aftershocks of a Murder : Homeless Man's Brutal Killing Jars the Tranquillity of Rural Trinity County
http://articles.latimes.com/1992-12-27/news/mn-5124_1_trinity-county]L.A. Times. Read More...
HAWKINS BAR, Calif. —
They found Hop's body in the woods outside this Trinity County settlement, half-buried in a small crater beneath a toppled tree stump. He had been killed in a most horrifying way--stabbed 70 times or more, with his eyes gouged out and his left ear sliced off.
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Five men and three women have been charged with the killing, and--in a style befitting the region's frontier heritage--have been dubbed the "Hawkins Bar Eight."

The Encampment:
*Summar, 37, and about two dozen people had been living at the campground along the Trinity River since summer.
**In the summer and fall of 1991, investigators said, Summar shared a trailer with two of those charged with his murder--Bernard MacCarlie and his girlfriend, Barbara Adcock. The three whiled away the warm days partying with about two dozen other people camped beneath a stand of oak trees along the river, authorities said.
*Since the slaying, the camp dwellers have dispersed, but Hawkins Bar residents fear they may return or move to another of the many public and private campgrounds along Highway 299 between Redding and Eureka.

Where did all these people go?
Did some of them stay in the area camping out along the 299 Highway or on properties until 1993?
Getting work on Farms?
With the exception of the arrests of the Hawkins Bar 8 - did Jennifer eventually meetup with any others of these people involved in this murder? There would be a commonality having been living in Hawkins Bar and just hanging out in the area.
Were any of the Hawkins Bar 8 questioned as to who the other people were?
Did they know Opie, Mingo and Jennifer from Hawkins Bar (if they were living in the area around 1991)?


Summar was said to be murdered after the encampment residents thought he had molested one of the camp members children. It was investigated by Police and Summar was innocent of any doings.
The other motive suspected was to gain Summar's Disability Pension.
**But investigators believe the leaders had other motivations, such as taking Summar's disability check, Torongo said.
''The followers may have felt there was a vigilante effort, but not the leaders. That was a ruse,'' Torongo said.

Is it possible that this could be another alternative motive to why Jennifer disappeared.
Jennifer was on welfare at the time of her disappearance.
Could it be that someone was trying to get Jennifers welfare check?
Was Jennifer's welfare checks cashed after she disappeared?
Was anything not right with Jennifer's bank accounts or money?
On a side note:
Jennifer also had access to a plane ticket which was available to her at anytime if she wanted to go home to her parents. It only needed to be activated at any travel agency for her to use.
Did Jennifer tell anyone about the ticket? Did anyone other than Jennifer visit a Travel Agency at Alcata to inquire about activating that ticket?


The Missing Persons Report
At the time Jennifer went missing it seems that there had already been substantial commercial and economic damage and fallout from the publicity of Summars murder.
The prosecution case was in the half million range, and business' relied on tourism for their next dollar.
The last thing Hawkins Bar and Trinity County needed was another missing Persons case (and possible murder case) in suspicious circumstances.
JMHO - but I think Jennifers case was swept under the carpet and not acted upon by authorities due to financial and economic directives at the time.

There had been many complaints of what the cost of The Hawkins Bar 8 had done to the area - both from business owners, Police and their resource teams - Games and Fishing Authority - logging companies - Parks and Recreation ....
I think it was all about money - bad publicity - business, and those in authority who would not want the money to stop flowing and people not coming into the towns to spend their money.
On a side note: Not all the authorities were clean either - didnt ES Christie Jnr head the Fishing and Gaming at one point? Please add detail or correct me if Im wrong on that point.

**
Theirs will be the first death penalty trial in Trinity County history. Legal costs--$550,000 and rising--already have broken records, law enforcement authorities have been swamped by the complex investigation and every defense attorney in the county is tied up with the case.
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Other consequences are less easily measured, but worrisome nonetheless. Some business owners fear that news of the murder (edit) might scare off vacationers drawn by the area's fine fishing and stunning peaks. With the timber industry on the ropes and unemployment ranging as high as 20%, tourism is the county's last best hope for economic security.
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"Tourism is all we've got left up here, and news like this can really hurt," said Jeff Kohlhagen, who owns a market and bait shop in Big Bar, a wide spot in the road along the Trinity River. "It's not like we're Miami Beach. Things are weak already, so any decline and you're in big trouble."
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Sheriff Paul Schmidt said such repercussions would be unfortunate--and unfair.


Article links
* AP News Oct 2 1991
** LA Times - December 27, 1992
 
  • #167
If this isn't a big screaming indicator of what happened Im not sure what is...


If two of Jennifers housemates dreads were cut days after Jennifer disappeared - it might have been as a warning to say nothing about 'something'....
Where had they been during the days between went Jennifer went missing and when their dreads were cut off. Shaved heads seem like a substantially big warning :eek:

My Bold
San Francico Chronicle Nov 9 1992
"It's not like the city up here," said one logger at a Weaverville bar. "They're used to it down there. We're not.
Nothing like that has ever happened up here before."
Years ago, he said, some folks "would pick up some hippies and give them a bad time on a back road, maybe cut their hair to scare them away, but they never put anyone in a grave."
... oh yes they did...

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  • #168
If this isn't a big screaming indicator of what happened Im not sure what is...


If two of Jennifers housemates dreads were cut days after Jennifer disappeared - it might have been as a warning to say nothing about 'something'....
Where had they been during the days between went Jennifer went missing and when their dreads were cut off. Shaved heads seem like a substantially big warning :eek:

My Bold
San Francico Chronicle Nov 9 1992

... oh yes they did...

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I hadn't thought about the possibility that someone else had shaved off their dreads as a warning. That seems more likely than my earlier thought that they knew something about Jennifer's death and were doing "penance." I really wish they could be found and questioned again.
 
  • #169
Excellent post on the Gary Summar case, FigTree. What a horrible mob. It really makes me wonder if Jennifer had the misfortune to encounter any of them. And I wonder if Jennifer's mother had heard about this case while she was there. I hope LE connected the dots and questioned them. Wishful thinking?
 
  • #170
I suppose there are a lot of possibilities. The fact that they shaved their dreads makes me wonder about them and their involvement as well. And one of the roommates took off not sure if he or she was ever questioned. Again would be great for Jess the cousin to come back and answer some questions. I have written her a PM but have had no reply.

Truth is there are many scenarios. From Running away, Suicide and Murder. What if it was something more simple than that. Maybe she really did go for that walk that morning to visit whatever farm or travel agency, and just forgot to grab her id and bankcard. I know I have done it. And on her way down the road she tripped over an untied shoelace or got scared by an animal and fell over the side of the mountain. Injured to the point of unable to move or scream for help and passed away laying in the wooded area where she fell.

Anything is possible.

If this isn't a big screaming indicator of what happened Im not sure what is...


If two of Jennifers housemates dreads were cut days after Jennifer disappeared - it might have been as a warning to say nothing about 'something'....
Where had they been during the days between went Jennifer went missing and when their dreads were cut off. Shaved heads seem like a substantially big warning
:eek:

My Bold
San Francico Chronicle Nov 9 1992

... oh yes they did...

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BBM. That is possible. But, which 2 roommates had shaved dreads? It is very, very, very possible (having friends who have had dreads) that they all just had a very bad case of head lice, that they were having issues treating, and that was the only solution to rid themselves of it. It might not even be related...IMOO. Or, if they were offered jobs, many folks did shave dreads (not as common place as today to have them) to get those jobs. But, if a group of folks are shaving dreads who live in the same house, chances are they had a bad lice infestation...BTW...I am not saying dreads are dirty, etc. Lice happens to everyone at some point, just harder to treat with dreads. :-)
 
  • #171
Economically, and from what I've read, there are very few legitimate opportunities for work and a livable wage in Humboldt and surrounding countys - unless you have access to some form of Government support, or work an illegitimate job - money is tight.
Jennifer may have been on a disability payment - it may have been easier to qualify for and to get.

There are several references in the article below to the 'new-comers' in the area - and the dangers of just 'showing up' somewhere where you weren't known. Dangerous to the point of deadly.




I found this interesting - seeing that Jennifer went missing around Harvest time - September


Had any of the housemates been messing with the locals?
It might explain the sudden cutting off of the dreadlocks to change appearances very quickly if it was to hide their identity from someone they had a run-in with.
Because Jennifer was unknown and a new person to the area, she may well have been in the wrong place at the wrong time. I wonder if there was a crop between Jennifer and the farm she was said to be visiting?

The more I read about the Countys in the area - the more I feel that someone knows something about what happened to Jennifer - with the population being small and the 'us and them' mentality - rumours must have been swirling around when Susan Wilmer started asking questions.
The stakes in these pot growing Countys must be very high - I can imagine there would be consequences to anyone who said anything at all. That may include the Police - all 4 of them ;) (JMO).

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BBM. I have to agree. Even if she took a "short-cut", took the wrong driveway up a property, ended up crossing the wrong property, or ended up seeing something she shouldn't people are not going to take the time to find out she is not going to narc on them. Way too much paranoia come harvest time...
 
  • #172
BBM. That is possible. But, which 2 roommates had shaved dreads? It is very, very, very possible (having friends who have had dreads) that they all just had a very bad case of head lice, that they were having issues treating, and that was the only solution to rid themselves of it. It might not even be related...IMOO. Or, if they were offered jobs, many folks did shave dreads (not as common place as today to have them) to get those jobs. But, if a group of folks are shaving dreads who live in the same house, chances are they had a bad lice infestation...BTW...I am not saying dreads are dirty, etc. Lice happens to everyone at some point, just harder to treat with dreads. :-)

My town just held a huge Music Festival this weekend - dread heads everywhere :D

I find that the housemates cutting of their dreads to be something significant, more so that nits or lice (ETA: not inferring that you are wrong at all - just the way I am seeing it :) ) - not only because of the pride by which dreads are grown and worn with, but that it was after Jennifers disappearance. There have been other reasons mentioned on the thread, but to find an article which states that hair is cut off them is very alarming.

I knew a girl who had beautiful long hair. My friends and I saw her the day after her partner had cut at her hair with a razor blade during a fight. What had happened to her was more than just a bad hair cut - she was broken by it - completely shattered and it was the most humiliating, dominating and threatening form of abuse - just as he intended.

My point being - cutting off someones hair may sound like a stupid thing to do to someone - until you see the effect it has on the person who it has been done too.
Supposing it was done to send a message to them - either to keep quiet or get out of town - then the lesson was learnt - they did just that.

I cannot find anywhere for a call from any of Jennifer's housemates/friends asking for information to where she might be. Did they put up Missing Persons posters - did they ask around the area and beyond where Jennifer might be? Do they hold a vigil at Alcata Plaza in honour of Jennifer? It just to me, seems strange. Even after all this time, and after what happened to Jennifer - there are no reports of them.
Unless they were involved in Jennifer's disappearance, I'd think they took off and haven't been heard from because they were scared of repercussions.

It might be a good idea for them to come forward or for them to be found - just to make sure they're not one of 'The Missing' also.

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  • #173
My town just held a huge Music Festival this weekend - dread heads everywhere :D

I find that the housemates cutting of their dreads to be something significant, more so that nits or lice - not only because of the pride by which dreads are grown and worn with, but that it was after Jennifers disappearance. There have been other reasons mentioned on the thread, but to find an article which states that hair is cut off them is very alarming.

I knew a girl who had beautiful long hair. My friends and I saw her the day after her partner had cut at her hair with a razor blade during a fight. What had happened to her was more than just a bad hair cut - she was broken by it - completely shattered and it was the most humiliating form of abuse - just as he intended.

My point being - cutting off someones hair may sound like a stupid thing to do to someone - until you see the effect it has on the person who it has been done too.
Supposing it was done to send a message to them - either to keep quiet or get out of town - then the lesson was learnt - they did just that.

I cannot find anywhere for a call from any of Jennifer's housemates/friends asking for information to where she might be. Did they put up Missing Persons posters - did they ask around the area and beyond where Jennifer might be? Do they hold a vigil at Alcata Plaza in honour of Jennifer? It just to me, seems strange. Even after all this time, and after what happened to Jennifer - there are no reports of them.
Unless they were involved in Jennifer's disappearance, I'd think they took off and haven't been heard from because they were scared of repercussions.

It might be a good idea for them to come forward or for them to be found - just to make sure they're not one of 'The Missing' also.

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BBM. Yes, cutting one's hair is very symbolic and can be a sign of mourning. It can also be from a huge infestation of lice. LOL. Was it the males who cut their hair?

Also, the roommates might not have "known" she was missing. Given her "note" and the potential the "farm" was a pot farm, they most certainly would not call police. The thing is "if" the farm was in harvest, the time she would be gone could be variable. They really would not involve police for many obvious reasons. And they wouldn't have a timeline for her return...

I am curious about the friend who said "the farm wasn't hiring". Do you have more information on that?
 
  • #174
Well believe it or not Mingo may not have been nickname at all. I did happen to come across a Mingo who was Jennifer's age, that was living in Arcata in 1993. And not sure what is supposed to be done with the info, Call him and be like, Hey you know Jennfier Wilmer? Yeah I dont think so. But the fact is Maybe Mingo was not a nickname at all and his legal name. I also found an Opie of about the same age group. Opie was his real Legal name as well. However I don't find him in any public records living so far up north. He was from around the San Fransisco area. But what good is the information its not like I'm calling them to inquire.

I meant to thankyou earlier for this great sleuth too.
:seeya:
 
  • #175
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I am curious about the friend who said "the farm wasn't hiring". Do you have more information on that?

Just taking out this significant extract from Bill Jensens Article - Long Islands Lost Girls

But Jennifer wasn't ready to give up on California. She called her mother and told her she had decided to go live with some friends "out in the country." "The country" meant Trinity County, 3,500 square miles of mountainous desolation and marijuana crops, with not a stoplight in sight.

Jennifer moved in with her boyfriend, a local named Tro Patterson, in a rented house in Hawkin's Bar, Calif., which he shared with a guy named Opie, another named Mingo and a girl named Rebecca. A friend told Jennifer of a farm up the road from the house. The friend said they weren't looking for any help at the moment, but Jennifer should still go down and introduce herself.

So at 7:30 in the morning on Monday, Sept. 13, Jennifer set out to hitchhike the nine miles into "town" along Rt. 299. She left a note to her roommates:

Bye everybody,

Went to my 1st day at the farm. Wish me luck! Good luck to you, Mingo and see you in a few months. If someone could give food to the kitten as needed I'd appreciate it. Hopefully I'll see you folks later

YJade


Local authorities would later come to suggest that she had gone away intentionally. Evidence doesn't support that theory, however. Jennifer left all her identification at home. She left her clothes. Her address book. Her Bible. Her bankcard. But most importantly, Jennifer left her sleeping bag.

"No self-respecting hippie leaves her sleeping bag," says Susan Wilmer.

By September 19, Susan Wilmer had still not heard from her daughter. Jennifer's housemates had gone to visit the farm and realized she hadn't gotten there. Susan Wilmer got a phone call from Tro Patterson, Jennifer's boyfriend.

"I knew she wasn't alive," Wilmer says today. "I knew."


Edited to Add -
And this was the piece about the shaved heads:
When the Wilmers entered the house in Hawkins Bar, they were met by three kids, all with shaved heads from having ditched their dreadlocks. The place was dirty, but Jennifer's housemates, just like the Deadheads who had slept in her backyard in Baldwin, were "sweet" and pleasant.

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  • #176
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Just taking out this significant extract from Bill Jensens Article - Long Islands Lost Girls




Edited to Add -
And this was the piece about the shaved heads:


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Thanks for the article, Fig...That helped a lot. Sorry trying to get caught up...

Couple of things:

1. She really wasn't missing that long. If I am not mistaken (I have been known to be wrong...LOL), 6 days before her mother was notified she was missing by the boyfriend. Plus with the boyfriend not always in the area, this could coincide with when he was working and unaware she was missing.

2. The house was filthy...This shows they did not make any real effort to clean up, which to me would kind of rule out something occurring to her in that home. Filthy house could also cause head lice. The sheriff had dropped off her picture. He might have investigated more if it appeared a crime happened in the house.

3. The "friend" who told her they weren't hiring, which friend was that? Interesting, because anyone who has been around drugs would take "not hiring" as a warning to stay the hell away. Why did friend suggest she goes there to introduce herself? Is it possible the friend had a really loud mouth and was starting to rub the "farm" the wrong way by sending people to introduce themselves and talking about the farm (lose lips sink ships)? And her disappearance was a warning to the friend to shut his/her mouth? "Wish me luck", maybe she was aware it was risky, but as most young people think/feel that they will be the exception and are super unique and can land that job?

4. The good luck to you Mingo...was he moving? Did he get a job somewhere? If so, it is possible he could have cut his hair for a job, etc. His departure might have been delayed as she was missing.

5. And something totally "unintentional" could have happened. She could have gotten hit by a car and someone panicked. She could have had an accident at the farm, and they panicked. Not sure when hunting season is, or if there is one there, but could have gotten shot, panic.

:twocents:
 
  • #177
You should look into the ID network they feature all types of cases like this... just an idea
 
  • #178
Thanks for the article, Fig...That helped a lot. Sorry trying to get caught up...

Couple of things:

1. She really wasn't missing that long. If I am not mistaken (I have been known to be wrong...LOL), 6 days before her mother was notified she was missing by the boyfriend. Plus with the boyfriend not always in the area, this could coincide with when he was working and unaware she was missing.

As far as I read, Tro Patterson (Jennifers boyfriend) would spend the weekends and Monday in Alcata. *He would be back to the house in Hawkins Bar on Tuesday. This would be the day after Jennifer disappeared.
He may have thought she was staying over at the Farm for the night (that's is if she had planned to do that) so no alarm would have been raised - but the question then would be why would she leave her ID behind and her belongings - and it was never mentioned that she took a change of clothes with her or any thing , like her sleeping bag.
And as you say, somewhere between the 20th the housemates went to the Farm an realized Jennifer had not arrived. I question - how long did it take Tro Patterson to realize Jennifer maybe Missing and not just absent, and then decide to ring Susan Wilmer? I wonder if he or the housemates made inquiries around town before ringing her - was it an hour? - a day? more?


2. The house was filthy...This shows they did not make any real effort to clean up, which to me would kind of rule out something occurring to her in that home. Filthy house could also cause head lice. The sheriff had dropped off her picture. He might have investigated more if it appeared a crime happened in the house.

I wonder how long it was after Jennifer disappeared that the Police visited the house and delivered the photo back to the friends. The Police considered Jennifer a walk away, so I wonder if they investigated at all, or just came to their conclusion immediately and didn't bother to look at the house regardless of the state it was in.

3. The "friend" who told her they weren't hiring, which friend was that? Interesting, because anyone who has been around drugs would take "not hiring" as a warning to stay the hell away. Why did friend suggest she goes there to introduce herself? Is it possible the friend had a really loud mouth and was starting to rub the "farm" the wrong way by sending people to introduce themselves and talking about the farm (lose lips sink ships)? And her disappearance was a warning to the friend to shut his/her mouth? "Wish me luck", maybe she was aware it was risky, but as most young people think/feel that they will be the exception and are super unique and can land that job?

Yes, I wonder who the friend was. Seeing that the Farm was not hiring, and it was Harvest time, they may either had enough workers or were keeping a low profile and not inviting new comers to work. It put Jennifer in a dangerous situation, either way if that was a reason for not hiring people at the time.


4. The good luck to you Mingo...was he moving? Did he get a job somewhere? If so, it is possible he could have cut his hair for a job, etc. His departure might have been delayed as she was missing.

The question this brings up for me is: Was one of the friends Susan Wilmer met at the house Mingo? and why was he still there? The article doesnt make that clear. It brings me back to the letter Jennifer left where she said "Good luck to you, Mingo and see you in a few months." He may have stayed because Police asked him not to leave - or, he wasn't leaving, Jennifer was. (though I don't think Jennifer was leaving) The letter is ambiguous and complicates the timeline and events (for me).


5. And something totally "unintentional" could have happened. She could have gotten hit by a car and someone panicked. She could have had an accident at the farm, and they panicked. Not sure when hunting season is, or if there is one there, but could have gotten shot, panic.
:twocents:

I hope the PI looked at all these types of scenarios too and investigated them.
I did look him up, but got distracted :blushing: - must get back to that later.
 
  • #179
The things I am wondering about the farm. If it was a pot farm and the friend knew they weren't hiring, Wouldn't they know more about the Pot farm business? Like never just go walking up to one and introduce yourself. So why would her friend offer the advice to do so? Unless it was just a regular farm.

I'm also wondering what the 4 roommates did for a living. Did any of them work at said farm? Where exactly were they when Jennifer left that morning. Were they home, sleeping or out and about? Did any of them have a car or were they all known to be hitch-hikers? How did Tro get back and forth to Arcata on the weekends. And why wouldn't she have spent the weekend with her boyfriend? Was he there that weekend or in town? If he did have a car why wouldn't he have offered to take her to the town in which she was headed?

Then I wonder, what questions and places did the PI look into? Being a PI with less authority then even the police, If he had a lead into a Pot farm, what would he have done with that info? And why Jennifer's mom didn't take her daughters picture to Arcata Plaza where she was known to hang out and start asking people if they knew her. Or if they knew of anyone calling themselves Happiness or Cowboy Fred?

From the sounds of it Jennifer had just moved to the Hawkins Bar area just weeks before she went missing. How long was she living in Hawkins Bar? Did anyone contact the Roommate from Arcata that bailed? Maybe the roommate had knowledge of some of things bothering Jennifer that was causing her Depression. Was Jennifer known to do drugs herself? If so what kind? Did she know the man who seemed to have been making her uncomfortable? Did anyone ever contact her therapist to retrieve her medical records.

So many questions and what seems like no hope for answers. Poor Jennifer we may never know where she disappeared to.
 
  • #180
I think a lot could be answered by the roommates. I wonder where they are now and if they think about Jennifer. Jennifers' family could set up a website or Facebook page, it may help people from that time to know this case is still unsolved and in dire need of tips. Perhaps they are afraid to come forward?
 

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