GUILTY CA - Jessica Bradford for starving newborn to death, Whitmore, 23 Sept 2011

[raysgirl1126]

Oh my, oh my! This is awful!!!

 

[Lori_TX]

I would ave taken that baby in a NY second as most others here would have.Why is this generation so unfeeling and inhuman ? I just do not understand it.It seems they are so selfish and horrible.Makes me ill.

ITA - I really feel like there is an entire generation that does not value life or really FEEL anything for anyone other than themselves. It all seem so matter of fact for them. It really terrifies me. I'm only 28, so I'm not necessarily a grouchy old woman shouting "kids these days!", and I was a young mom. I found out I was pregnant during the first week of my senior year in high school. It was not the ideal situation for any 17 almost 18 year old, but not once did it cross my mind to hide the pregnancy or have the baby and "get rid of it". I couldn't even stand the thought of getting an abortion - which is a choice for everyone, and one that MANY people felt would be my best option at the time. For me, it wasn't my best choice and something I couldn't personally go through with. At that point, I knew adoption or keeping my baby were my two viable options. I ultimately was able to graduate early as I had been in AP courses the year before, and enrolled in a summer session at the college to earn extra credits before my senior year. I chose to leave my senior festivities - homecoming, cheerleading, prom, etc. behind and focus on my new responsibility.

It was scary and it was hard, and people constantly questioned my choice to keep my son, but I knew what was best for me. He is now 9 years old and by far the greatest gift I've ever known.

The reason for my insanely long personal story is to compare it to a family member a few years younger than me. She's currently 22, had a baby that she gave for adoption when she was 17, had an abortion at 18, had another baby at 19 who died under suspicious circumstances and is STILL currently under investigation, and has since had another abortion. I just don't get it...
We all know how babies are made right?? If you don't want them, STOP getting pregnant!! And if you do get pregnant, FGS don't KILL then when you could simply drop them off at your local firehouse/hospital/church.

Ok - I think I'm done with my rant for the moment! Sorry! This just hurts my heart so much!!

 

[Thinker Belle]

Why, oh why did I read this story? I am in tears... to think of what that baby went through. She left from the sheltered, secure, nurturing environment of the womb to a cold, barren, loveless existence. She never felt love, warmth or security. I am truly sick inside and the only thing that is comforting the thought of her being cradled by loving arms in Heaven, with a full belly and long gone from her evil "mother" and all of the pain of this world..

 

[Vhead]

I'm doing the best I can to show people the world isn't all sugar and spice, that people raised without love and moral cannot teach love and morals, and sparing the rod and spoiling the child ain't the way to go.

I don't believe in beating any child to death, starving, burning, or sexual abuse. I do believe a child's spirit needs to be controlled, guided, not necessarily broken. I see so many posts on the net where kids are king, or queen when they are young. I've even read posts where parents stay up all night just sitting there watching their sleeping babies in case something happens. Well, . . .I ain't going there right now, don't have the stomach for it.

A child doesn't know the pain it gives to someone/something else until that child experiences it. An example is - when baby bites, bite baby back. Baby DOES get the message, at least mine did, maybe they were advanced babies, I don't know, but they did quit biting. They honest to God realized biting hurts when their own skin was involved. That is what I believe is missing in today's society, the teaching of you get what you give. Today I don't see mothers doing that. What I do see are spoiled children, maybe the ones who starve and kill children. Maybe these "mothers" don't understand the pain and horror of hunger because "they" were never subjected to any such, being the perfect children their parents thought they were.

"Preach," yeah right. I could preach all day and still be a monster while children of some wonderful parents kill their children without a second thought.

This whole topic makes me sick. Bite 'em back, and they realize pain is involved. But this is a very complicated subject, and there are as many sides as there are crimes.

I don't know If you got my tone. I was saying "preach" as in "word" as in right on because I agreed with you and I guess instead of the thumbs up I said "preach". I'm sure this is that much more confusing. Thanks.

 

[Capri]

Bumping for any updates

 

[Capri]

http://media.redding.com/media/static/BABY_MURDER.PDF

The warrant for the mothers arrest -Nicole Taylor Bradford

 

[OneLove]

Yeah, even I see a lot of spoiled brat here. I don't know if it's really that parents aren't raising their kids right that's causing this. I wasn't raised right, I don't have any qualms about admitting that. And yet, I never neglected, starved, beat, or broke any of my kids, at least not yet, and I don't see it happening anytime soon.
Sometimes it is the spoiled brat problem, but sometimes I think it's more than that, and way beyond what any parent could cope with or fix on their own.

Sometimes I think that all the good parenting in the world can't fix these problems. My mother had a theory that if you overparent, and never let your child rebel on small things, they will eventually rebel in other areas when they get older. There was a study some years ago that seemed to support that, since they said if you missed a developmental stage when growing up, you would later repeat that stage. (Adults that suck their thumbs or are into infant role playing, so on and so forth.) You have to set rules and boundaries, you have to enforce them, and at the same time, you have to let a child rebel a little, test the boundaries, so on and so forth. And for every kid, that has to be done in a different way, and every parent is going to handle it in a different way...I don't think it's as simple as good parent vs. bad parent. You can be an excellent parent and raise a serial killer, and you can be a serial killer and raise a wonderful child. I think it's a combination of parenting, outside influence, and internal factors like mental illness or sociopathy (which to me is different from your standard mental illness.) JMO.

I LOVE how well you stated this!

Back when I worked with "at risk" youth, I kept in mind this important fact: if everyone did the same thing everyone else before them did, we would all still be sleeping in caves.

Each generation must find their own individuality; it is the process of evolution. We don't cook on wood fires (much) anymore because someone rebelled. We don't wash laundry in the river because someone rebelled, we use electric lights and drive cars and talk on phones because someone rebelled. We are a nation because some people rebelled. It is not a bad thing to think differently, and this generally starts as an adolescent developmental stage in wearing different clothes, listening to different music, styling hair differently, and using different vocabulary. Evolution.

Generally speaking, the only people who have a problem with this are those who fear what they do not know or understand AND narcissists who think everyone should be just like them, a mirror reflection of their perfection.

The PROBLEM with kids "today", haha,is not with being different or 'rebelling, it's with LACK OF EMPATHY. Unfortunately, it seems too many kids are not being taught consideration for others. I agree that there is more "vacancy" in children as they are missing that vital stage in toddlerhood of learning BOUNDARIES. Boundaries must be taught by a responsible (and hopefully, kind, loving, and compassionate) adult. Too many adults are shucking this vital responsibility.

I have a theory on Borderline Personality Disorder. It has always been stated in the professional literature that "abandonment" (often neglect/abuse) at a young age causes the amygdala to stunt and not develop fully. The amygdala is the brain's seat of emotion and impulse, hence BPD's erratic and sometimes dangerous behaviors: they just don't have a fully developed amygdala to control impulse.

But I have seen too many BPDs who were pampered in childhood in every way.....no abuse, no abandonment, no neglect save for one kind. I believe that NOT teaching BOUNDARIES at that vital age is it's own abandonment...... of PARENTAL responsibilities, and lack of boundary setting stunts the maturation of the amygdala the same as brutal neglect and abuse.

That's my theory and I'm stickin' to it, hahah.

 

[LCoastMom]

http://www.redding.com/news/2011/nov/30/woman-accused-starving-her-baby-death-gets-dec-15/

A Shasta County woman accused of murdering her 4-day-old daughter is scheduled to have a preliminary hearing on Dec. 15 to determine whether there is sufficient evidence to have her stand trial.

We can only hope, right? She's charged with murder, child abuse and an enhanced charge of starving the baby to death - looking at LIFE in prison if convicted. She entered a Not Guilty plea today (11/30) in Shasta County Superior Court.

 

[not_my_kids]

I hope she gets life, because if she doesn't, she's young enough to get out and do it again. Some people that kill their kids, abandon their infants, or beat on their children, I think they could possibly be rehab'ed to have a role in society that does not include children. And then there are others, like this woman, that are just too far gone.

I don't think this woman can be helped. She had an opportunity literally every minute of every day that that baby lay there dying and she refused to take any of them. And she even went back and visited the child. That isn't even abandonment, that's torture. After five kids, I know that babies can sense our presence, even if they don't see us. Her child knew that she was there, and knew that she did nothing to help. Honestly, life in prison is too good for her, but I will at least be satisfied knowing that she won't be having or having contact with any more dependent children in her lifetime.

 

[Chewy]

Okay, since you asked, I will give you MY take on this. I know I'll be flamed, whatever, been there, heard that. BUT, I believe the "mothers" who are abandoning/killing their babies are SELFISH - SELFISH because they were never made to own up to their own actions as children, never taught the world didn't revolve around them. Children need to know there is a more powerful force on this earth than them, and when they are little, it is the parents. Yet, how many parents actually FORCE their children to acknowledge they ain't the be all and end all? Not too many from what I've read on the internet. When you have a child that rules the roost, is never civilized/controlled, made to know there are rules (and children need this), what does anyone expect?

I know, I know, I'm all wrong, cruel and hateful. Well, I'm not, nor do I have any dead grandbabies from my 5 kids who were raised to know there are consequences.

My opinion only

It's not just the parents any more. Every day I see idiots excusing rude behavior and making excuses for "teenagers" because they are just teens.

I had a tough upbringing myself. But I had two jobs by the time I was 14 years old. I was expected to help in the house. I was expected to be respectful and I was expected to be responsible.

I can't tell you the number of times that I have been told I'm too hard on my sons. For years I've had other people tell me "they're just kids, let them be kids, back off" etc etc etc.

I'll give you some examples. One time I found out my son at 12 had skipped a track meet at his junior high school. I came home exhausted from work, and I found him watching tv because he "Forgot" his Gym clothes. I made him get his Gym clothes and walked all the way down to the outside track where his coach was finishing up with the team. I asked her how many laps he had to do and I sat there while he ran twelve laps even though everyone else had left. I told him that when you make a commitment to a team you keep it.

Another time (this was a doozy) my son was auditioning at LaGuardia High School for the performing arts. He needed a portfolio of about 20 pieces of art. Since we changed schools mid year he was at a disadvantage because he had no art classes that year and didn't have any projects.

Well my ex husband and his girlfriend are both artists and my son went with them for the weekend. He came back with an entire portfolio and I was happy. But then I found out two days before the audition that his dad and girlfriend had done over half the pieces in the portfolio.

So I made him redo everything. He balked thinking I would give in, so I marched him down to his school and told his art teacher that they were forgeries. And so they wouldn't allow him to submit them. He had to redo them in one day. And he did. And he got in, it's very competitive, but he did it. I said " you need to get in on your own work or you will be haunted by it, trust me"

Most of my friends said I was making a big deal out of nothing. It caused major friction between me and my ex.

I don't understand what happened to teaching kids to keep their commitments, be honest and be respectful. But I totally agree that it's gotten to epidemic proportions.

You can be cool and be decent. And it's a shame because society doesn't reflect that. Look at Courtney Stodden, this girl is a celebrity for being trashy.

I don't know if it's just because I joined this site, but it seems like more and more young men and women are abusing and killing innocent children because not just parents but society makes excuses for them.

Casey Anthony is a really really good example of this. For some reason the jury treated her like she was a 16 year old single mom who got in over her head.

 

[Swirlz]

Actual charges filed against Bradford: document

 

[Jan]

Just unbelievable that anyone could do something so cruel! As an animal rescuer, I have seen some awful things people have done to animals but its really shocking that someone could also do something so horrible to a newborn defenseless baby. Probably loads of couples would have loved to have been able to adopt that baby.

 

[MsFacetious]

December 22, 2011 -

Mom heads to murder trial for baby neglect death

Authorities say Bradford kept the body for months in the dorm room, where another staff member discovered it last month.

http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_19602938


January 3, 2012 -

The young woman accused of killing her baby then hiding the mummified body will stand trial July 13.

http://www.krcrtv.com/news/30125214/detail.html

 

[OneLove]

It's not just the parents any more. Every day I see idiots excusing rude behavior and making excuses for "teenagers" because they are just teens.

I had a tough upbringing myself. But I had two jobs by the time I was 14 years old. I was expected to help in the house. I was expected to be respectful and I was expected to be responsible.

I can't tell you the number of times that I have been told I'm too hard on my sons. For years I've had other people tell me "they're just kids, let them be kids, back off" etc etc etc.

I'll give you some examples. One time I found out my son at 12 had skipped a track meet at his junior high school. I came home exhausted from work, and I found him watching tv because he "Forgot" his Gym clothes. I made him get his Gym clothes and walked all the way down to the outside track where his coach was finishing up with the team. I asked her how many laps he had to do and I sat there while he ran twelve laps even though everyone else had left. I told him that when you make a commitment to a team you keep it.

Another time (this was a doozy) my son was auditioning at LaGuardia High School for the performing arts. He needed a portfolio of about 20 pieces of art. Since we changed schools mid year he was at a disadvantage because he had no art classes that year and didn't have any projects.

Well my ex husband and his girlfriend are both artists and my son went with them for the weekend. He came back with an entire portfolio and I was happy. But then I found out two days before the audition that his dad and girlfriend had done over half the pieces in the portfolio.

So I made him redo everything. He balked thinking I would give in, so I marched him down to his school and told his art teacher that they were forgeries. And so they wouldn't allow him to submit them. He had to redo them in one day. And he did. And he got in, it's very competitive, but he did it. I said " you need to get in on your own work or you will be haunted by it, trust me"

Most of my friends said I was making a big deal out of nothing. It caused major friction between me and my ex.

I don't understand what happened to teaching kids to keep their commitments, be honest and be respectful. But I totally agree that it's gotten to epidemic proportions.

You can be cool and be decent. And it's a shame because society doesn't reflect that. Look at Courtney Stodden, this girl is a celebrity for being trashy.

I don't know if it's just because I joined this site, but it seems like more and more young men and women are abusing and killing innocent children because not just parents but society makes excuses for them.

Casey Anthony is a really really good example of this. For some reason the jury treated her like she was a 16 year old single mom who got in over her head.

I think if all parents followed your example we could empty the prisons in just a generation or two.

Congrats for working so hard to do a good job.

And WHAT was your ex thinking???? Grrrrr, setting an example like THAT could lead down a murky road for sure. Idiot.

 

[Swirlz]

a facebook page created for Jessica Bradford https://www.facebook.com/LOVE4JESSICA?ref=ts

 

[Swirlz]

California Schools Guide - Julian Youth Academy

Scroll down. The comments are interesting.

 

[Melanie]

a facebook page created for Jessica Bradford https://www.facebook.com/LOVE4JESSICA?ref=ts

Great, just great - another page dedicated to the love of a baby killer. I had to leave the page quickly after reading a few posts...ick.

I know what she did was wrong, but I still think she's a wonderful girl, blah, blah, blah.

And looking at her photos reminded me of Casey Anthony's party photos.

Ughhh!

Mel

 

[Belinda]

Great, just great - another page dedicated to the love of a baby killer. I had to leave the page quickly after reading a few posts...ick.

I know what she did was wrong, but I still think she's a wonderful girl, blah, blah, blah.

And looking at her photos reminded me of Casey Anthony's party photos.

Ughhh!

Mel

You did better than I did. I couldn't even handle going to the page! WTH is wrong with people? Where is the page for the baby? Where is the concern and love for the baby she killed? People are insane.

 

[LCoastMom]

a facebook page created for Jessica Bradford https://www.facebook.com/LOVE4JESSICA?ref=ts

Wow, I will say they are "bigger people" than I. Maybe a page for Justice For Jessica's Baby Girl is in order.

From the pictures I've seen and her comments to LE I do not believe Jessica has some severe mental illness that caused her to do this, just something lacking (like a soul/conscious) that allowed her to let this tiny baby girl (her baby girl) suffer and die all alone.

California Schools Guide - Julian Youth Academy

Scroll down. The comments are interesting.

Thanks for the link, very interesting comments.

It makes a lot of sense to me that this school would want to hire "their own" as councilors/advisors/babysitters.

I can also see where some "students" may come away from the experience more mature, well rounded people, but that that the majority of those enrolled are fragile (whether their parents realize it or not) and have problems that are not being addressed, and they are being further traumatized.

 

[Salem]

This thread is about the lost life of an innocent infant - it is not a thread for political debate and we are not going there.

If you want to get political, please visit our Political Pavilion in the member's only area.

If you have any questions, please send me or one of the other mods a pm and we will be happy to help.

Thanks,

Salem