CA CA - Jessica Roggenkamp, 44, Anderson, 10 Dec 2016

[Inthedetails]

I'm logging on purely to say this, IF I was ever going to kill myself I wouldn't bother to change a tire. .

Snipped by me.

What real info do we have about the tire change? Did she really change the tire out there in the remote area, or before, or never?

It's my hunch (only a hunch) that she contacted someone to say she had to stop and change her tire so that when she didn't return home, they would know where to find her car and, possibly, find her.

I'm also recalling a suicide case where the woman was seen on video purchasing snacks shortly before killing herself. It would seem odd to bother buying snacks given what she planned to do, but that's what she did.

I hate the thought of suicide in this case, but sadly, that is what I think happened. Or, voluntary disappearance with the help of someone else (but who would agree to be a partner in causing pain for the family...seems unlikely, imo).

I do hope she returns home safely.

 

[m_brown]

Newest article from KRCR answers a lot of questions. http://www.krcrtv.com/news/local/sh...earching-for-missing-anderson-woman/212342920

Caltrans helped her change her tire. So I am assuming they were the last to see her. Her bad tire was in the trunk. Duffle bag of clothes, sleeping bag and pillow in car. She is going through a divorce, but ex is not a suspect.

Also says she has gone missing before for several days at a time.


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[Inthedetails]

Newest article from KRCR answers a lot of questions. http://www.krcrtv.com/news/local/sh...earching-for-missing-anderson-woman/212342920

Caltrans helped her change her tire. So I am assuming they were the last to see her. Her bad tire was in the trunk. Duffle bag of clothes, sleeping bag and pillow in car. She is going through a divorce, but ex is not a suspect.

Also says she has gone missing before for several days at a time.


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VERY useful information...answers some questions I had about the tire. I was thinking that she purposely stopped at that location to ditch the car, but it sounds like she really did have a flat tire that needed changing.

On one hand, I'm very worried...and on the other hand, we've learned that she has left for several days before.

I'd like to know what she did when she left before. Did she camp??

jmopinion

 

[soanyway]

Thanks for the link. I'm not familiar with Caltrans, but does this mean she would've had cell phone service to call and request help for the tire? Or was she is an area where they would've driven by and spotted her? Would like to know what time the tire was changed, also. Why wouldn't she have continued on her way after getting the tire replaced?

I'm also a little perplexed about the 3:00 sighting by a bear hunter. Full disclosure, I know nothing about bear hunting. But one article suggested that the best time of day to hunt is dusk, as the bears are nocturnal. Is it common to hunt at 3:00 a.m.? Just thinking if I were a bear and woke up looking for food (I'd be famished), but I'd probably be back home and ready to go to bed well before the sun came up. Also, JR would have to know that bears were in the area and I can't see venturing too far on foot (especially if the car was drivable). Is it possible she called someone else for assistance with the tire, too? Maybe they arrived after Caltrans had replaced it, but she decided to go on with the friend she called and come back for her car in the morning? Leaving the keys doesn't fit that theory, though. And I'm still a little confused how cold weather can unlock car doors? Someone please feel free to enlighten me.

Newest article from KRCR answers a lot of questions. http://www.krcrtv.com/news/local/sh...earching-for-missing-anderson-woman/212342920

Caltrans helped her change her tire. So I am assuming they were the last to see her. Her bad tire was in the trunk. Duffle bag of clothes, sleeping bag and pillow in car. She is going through a divorce, but ex is not a suspect.

Also says she has gone missing before for several days at a time.


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[GigTu]

The fact that she left Anderson to go to Igo, but ended up miles past that is what I find most curious.

Where and what time the tire was changed is certainly important to the story here.

 

[m_brown]

I highly doubt she had any cell reception in the area to make a call for car help. My husband and I have different carriers - AT&T and Verizon, and neither of us have ANY service when we are in the area. The last place we even have one bar of service is Platina where LE says her phone last pinged - to me that makes sense.

So what I am saying is that if CalTrans workers helped her change her tire on Hwy 36 and Wild Mad Rd they most likely just happened upon her.

As far as the person who was bear hunting seeing her car - you can't legally hunt the area until 30 mins before sunrise. So unless he was putting around in the area for a while staking things out - I would guess the earliest he may have seen her car in the 5-6:30 am range. Sunrise according to google was 7:13 am. If it were us - we would probably get there around 6:30 to check things out. But we have seen people around as early as 4:30-5am during deer season (Sunrise is earlier).

There are plenty of bear in the area. We haven't seen a bear on Wild Mad Rd its self (and we've been up and down Wild Mad quite a bit) but if you go up some of the nearby forest service roads you might happen upon a black bear no problem.

Wild Mad Rd follows Hayfork Creek. There is a small campground along the river not too far from Hwy 36 along Wild Mad


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[Annie1004]

LE can say / not say what they will, but if enough women are missing (I-5 corridor has a long history of being a major serial killer hub), people are already going to be in a panic.

The last known serial killer on I-5 in California (through Oregon) was named the "I-5 killer" back in the 1980s. Are there other SKs in the area now making this a major hub of activity? If so, that is frightening for this native Californian and others likewise situated.

 

[Logansden77]

I highly doubt she had any cell reception in the area to make a call for car help. My husband and I have different carriers - AT&T and Verizon, and neither of us have ANY service when we are in the area. The last place we even have one bar of service is Platina where LE says her phone last pinged - to me that makes sense.

So what I am saying is that if CalTrans workers helped her change her tire on Hwy 36 and Wild Mad Rd they most likely just happened upon her.

As far as the person who was bear hunting seeing her car - you can't legally hunt the area until 30 mins before sunrise. So unless he was putting around in the area for a while staking things out - I would guess the earliest he may have seen her car in the 5-6:30 am range. Sunrise according to google was 7:13 am. If it were us - we would probably get there around 6:30 to check things out. But we have seen people around as early as 4:30-5am during deer season (Sunrise is earlier).

There are plenty of bear in the area. We haven't seen a bear on Wild Mad Rd its self (and we've been up and down Wild Mad quite a bit) but if you go up some of the nearby forest service roads you might happen upon a black bear no problem.

Wild Mad Rd follows Hayfork Creek. There is a small campground along the river not too far from Hwy 36 along Wild Mad


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Cal Trans was probably road patrolling to maintain road safety (ie bumping rocks off the road loosened by all the rainy weather) and just came upon her along the road. Although the cell service is very iffy there, Cal Trans would have had radio contact if there was a major vehicle problem (ie, she needed to be towed). What I don't get is the car's location versus going to Igo. She had to travel a lot of windy Platina Road, drive right through Igo, to get where the car was found. Platina Road is not a road I'd want to drive at 3 am.

 

[Hoosier952]

As far as the person who was bear hunting seeing her car - you can't legally hunt the area until 30 mins before sunrise. So unless he was putting around in the area for a while staking things out - I would guess the earliest he may have seen her car in the 5-6:30 am range. Sunrise according to google was 7:13 am. If it were us - we would probably get there around 6:30 to check things out. But we have seen people around as early as 4:30-5am during deer season (Sunrise is earlier).

Snipped- Not familiar with CA laws regarding hunting, but is baiting bears legal near where her car was found? Maybe the bear hunter wasn't hunting in that area, but driving to another area farther away and just happened to drive by? Maybe he likes to walk a long way to his stand or likes to sit in his stand for a long time in the dark?

 

[marinthinker]

NIXLE
Thursday December 15th, 2016 :: 05:00 p.m. PST
https://local.nixle.com/alert/5802253/

Investigators have learned that two Caltrans employees had contact with ROGGENKAMP on Saturday, December 10, 2016, at about 07:00 AM. ROGGENKAMP’s vehicle had a flat tire which the Caltrans employee’s assisted her in fixing.

During their contact with ROGGENKAMP she made some mention of attending a party in the Harrison Gulch area, near White Rock Rd. ROGGENKAMP was alone at the time of the contact and described as wearing what appeared to be pajama style clothing.​

 

[marinthinker]

KRCR NEWS
Anderson Police release more information on missing woman
By: Josh Copitch
Posted: Dec 15, 2016 05:14 PM PST
Updated: Dec 15, 2016 05:14 PM PST

http://www.krcrtv.com/news/anderson..._medium=social&utm_source=KRCR_News_Channel_7

Same info as the 12/15/16 NIXLE Report...
https://local.nixle.com/alert/5802253/

 

[Gardener1850]

Ok, now we are getting some info. Assuming the times we have been given are correct, we have:

3 AM a hunter sees her car, but not her, near 36 and Wild Mad Rd
7 AM -2 Caltran employees help her change a tire on her car-- same location as when the hunter saw it?

She is wearing pajamas at 7 AM.
She reportedly had taken a sleeping bag and pillow.
These things all lead me to believe she slept in the woods for several hours--maybe in a nearby cabin or maybe in her car.

What I find odd is the mention that she was on her way to a party in the Harrison Gulch area.
1. Strange timing to go to a party and strange to mention it at all at 7 AM if the party wasn't until later that evening.
2. Was the party supposed to be the night before? That could explain a 7 AM mention of it to the Caltran employees.
3. She had already driven past the Harrison Gultch area-- did she get lost and get stuck sleeping in the woods/in her car instead?
4. Who was she meeting at this party?/how did she find out about it?
5. Did she ever make it to the party or did she meet up with someone in the woods?

Hopefully LE has been scouring her phone records and email for any evidence of communication with someone with a cabin in this area.

 

[marinthinker]

12/10/16 Saturday 3 am, leaves Anderson for Igo
http://www.krcrtv.com/news/local/sh...e-of-44-year-old-jessica-roggenkamp/209421533
The Anderson Police Department issued a press release asking for assistance in locating Jessica Roggenkamp, last known to be driving from Anderson to the Igo area at 3:00 a.m. Saturday.

12/10/16 Saturday 7 am, changes flat tire with CalTrans Assistance
https://local.nixle.com/alert/5802253/
Investigators have learned that two Caltrans employees had contact with ROGGENKAMP on Saturday, December 10, 2016, at about 07:00 AM. ROGGENKAMP’s vehicle had a flat tire which the Caltrans employee’s assisted her in fixing.

12/11/16 Sunday 11:50 pm, car located by Deputy Warden
https://local.nixle.com/alert/5800394/
On December 11, 2016, at about 2350 hours, a Deputy Warden with the California Department of Fish and Wildlife located ROGGENKAMP’s vehicle parked in a remote area of Trinity County, south of Highway 36

12/12/16 Monday, reported missing by mother
https://local.nixle.com/alert/5800394/
On December 12, 2016, the Anderson Police Department received a report of a missing person from the Anderson area. The mother of 44 year old Jessica ROGGENKAMP contacted the Anderson Police Department to report her daughter missing.

 

[katydid23]

12/10/16 Saturday 3 am, leaves Anderson for Igo
http://www.krcrtv.com/news/local/sh...e-of-44-year-old-jessica-roggenkamp/209421533
The Anderson Police Department issued a press release asking for assistance in locating Jessica Roggenkamp, last known to be driving from Anderson to the Igo area at 3:00 a.m. Saturday.

12/10/16 Saturday 7 am, changes flat tire with CalTrans Assistance
https://local.nixle.com/alert/5802253/
Investigators have learned that two Caltrans employees had contact with ROGGENKAMP on Saturday, December 10, 2016, at about 07:00 AM. ROGGENKAMP’s vehicle had a flat tire which the Caltrans employee’s assisted her in fixing.

12/11/16 Sunday 11:50 pm, car located by Deputy Warden
https://local.nixle.com/alert/5800394/
On December 11, 2016, at about 2350 hours, a Deputy Warden with the California Department of Fish and Wildlife located ROGGENKAMP’s vehicle parked in a remote area of Trinity County, south of Highway 36

12/12/16 Monday, reported missing by mother
https://local.nixle.com/alert/5800394/
On December 12, 2016, the Anderson Police Department received a report of a missing person from the Anderson area. The mother of 44 year old Jessica ROGGENKAMP contacted the Anderson Police Department to report her daughter missing.

That 3 am time on the 10th is kind of confusing.

I have seen it referred to as the time a hunter saw her car parked. But in this timeline it is given as the time she left Anderson.

If so, why did she leave at 3 am for a drive to Igo? Strange time to start a road trip for a woman alone. Why so early?

 

[soanyway]

According to the HFJR FB page, there is a search scheduled for Sunday. Does anyone have a link to the sighting by the bear hunter that gives the location? I'm horrible at maps, and since Mapquest couldn't locate Harrison Gulch, I had to pin the next largest city (Platina). IMO, the party in Harrison Gulch would've been the night before (Friday night), since her friend wasn't expecting her till Saturday in Igo. So, she could've left Anderson Friday night, stopped at the party in Harrison Gulch. She may have had plans to return home that night or head on to the friend's house in Igo. But if she had been drinking (not judging) or it just being late, her sense of direction may have been off and she headed west in the mountains instead of east towards home or Igo.

I don't know where the hunter comes in. But if she had been traveling late Friday night and got the flat tire in Hayfork, I can imagine her staying in the car, keeping warm, until daylight when she could summon help (if no cell reception). If she planned to stay the night at her friend's house in Igo on Saturday, she had pajamas. I would put those overtop of my clothing just to keep warm while I waited it out till sunrise. Then Caltrans showed up to help with the flat tire. We know that she didn't leave the area in her vehicle, but "seemed intent on continuing on with her travels". I would imagine that Caltrans would set her in the right direction (towards Igo). But her car isn't found until late the next evening (some 40 hours later). Do we know if the car was operable? Was it found in the EXACT same location as where Caltrans last saw her? The flat tire had been fixed, but what if she had run the heat intermittently at night to stay warm, charged her phone, etc. resulting in a dead battery or running out of gas a few miles down the road. I would think that Caltrans would check these things, just trying to account for why she wouldn't have left right away. If the vehicle was disabled, it was light out and she could've thought to walk along the road to get closer to town for cell reception. This whole voluntary thing really irks me. She could've gotten a ride with someone shady or gotten lost in the woods. I'm also concerned about the search not happening until Sunday. Maybe there are locals that can weigh in on the delay. All JMO

https://www.mapquest.com/directions...o/us/ca/igo/to/us/ca/hayfork/to/us/ca/platina
https://local.nixle.com/alert/5802253/

 

[GigTu]

In this early report, it states her car was found at Wild Mad Road on Sunday night by fish and game. The car was locked, the keys were locked inside. Her sleeping bag and pillow were inside the car. This would be after 7:00 am Saturday morning after the CalTrans tire change, but we don't know where she was for that.

http://www.actionnewsnow.com/news/a...um=social&utm_source=facebook_Action_News_Now

We also don't yet know where her car was when spotted by the Hunter.

Based on the information we currently have, I feel she got lost, got out to maybe go pee or something, realized she was locked out of her car, so started following the road. I think either she's out there lost and affected by the cold weather, or an animal got her. We need search parties ASAP. I'm sure it snowed out there this week.

 

[Alexsea]

According to the HFJR FB page, there is a search scheduled for Sunday. Does anyone have a link to the sighting by the bear hunter that gives the location? I'm horrible at maps, and since Mapquest couldn't locate Harrison Gulch, I had to pin the next largest city (Platina). IMO, the party in Harrison Gulch would've been the night before (Friday night), since her friend wasn't expecting her till Saturday in Igo. So, she could've left Anderson Friday night, stopped at the party in Harrison Gulch. She may have had plans to return home that night or head on to the friend's house in Igo. But if she had been drinking (not judging) or it just being late, her sense of direction may have been off and she headed west in the mountains instead of east towards home or Igo.

I don't know where the hunter comes in. But if she had been traveling late Friday night and got the flat tire in Hayfork, I can imagine her staying in the car, keeping warm, until daylight when she could summon help (if no cell reception). If she planned to stay the night at her friend's house in Igo on Saturday, she had pajamas. I would put those overtop of my clothing just to keep warm while I waited it out till sunrise. Then Caltrans showed up to help with the flat tire. We know that she didn't leave the area in her vehicle, but "seemed intent on continuing on with her travels". I would imagine that Caltrans would set her in the right direction (towards Igo). But her car isn't found until late the next evening (some 40 hours later). Do we know if the car was operable? Was it found in the EXACT same location as where Caltrans last saw her? The flat tire had been fixed, but what if she had run the heat intermittently at night to stay warm, charged her phone, etc. resulting in a dead battery or running out of gas a few miles down the road. I would think that Caltrans would check these things, just trying to account for why she wouldn't have left right away. If the vehicle was disabled, it was light out and she could've thought to walk along the road to get closer to town for cell reception. This whole voluntary thing really irks me. She could've gotten a ride with someone shady or gotten lost in the woods. I'm also concerned about the search not happening until Sunday. Maybe there are locals that can weigh in on the delay. All JMO

https://www.mapquest.com/directions...o/us/ca/igo/to/us/ca/hayfork/to/us/ca/platina
https://local.nixle.com/alert/5802253/

I thought I'd try my hand at making us a Google map. I've got Anderson, Igo, Harrison Gulch, and Wild Mad Rd generally , it's hard to get specific with those locations. Do we have more details for any of these, or is there another point that should be added?

It's gotta be dang cold out there...


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[Gardener1850]

In this early report, it states her car was found at Wild Mad Road on Sunday night by fish and game. The car was locked, the keys were locked inside. Her sleeping bag and pillow were inside the car. This would be after 7:00 am Saturday morning after the CalTrans tire change, but we don't know where she was for that.

http://www.actionnewsnow.com/news/a...um=social&utm_source=facebook_Action_News_Now

We also don't yet know where her car was when spotted by the Hunter.

Based on the information we currently have, I feel she got lost, got out to maybe go pee or something, realized she was locked out of her car, so started following the road. I think either she's out there lost and affected by the cold weather, or an animal got her. We need search parties ASAP. I'm sure it snowed out there this week.

The help find fb has a post saying they are organizing a volunteer search party on Sunday: https://www.facebook.com/Help-Find-Jessica-Roggenkamp-1185616871514814/
It mentions snow
I can't understand why authorities have not already searched more extensively. I read they did a search up and down the road from her car but it sounds like that's all they did.

 

[Wyle_E_Coyote]

A woman welder has my utmost respect, and most likely wouldn't have trouble changing a tire. I couldn't even begin to change a tire. She's also probably not one to easily mess with. All it really takes is getting in a vehicle with the wrong person. There was a recent study done on long haul truckers, it was shocking how many of them had removed the inside door handles on the passenger side. Even had she not gone with someone willingly, she was pretty helpless, stranded in the middle of nowhere.

BBM

Ok, I've been googling for half an hour now.... Can you post a link to this study? I'm very interested in reading more about this.. Thanks!

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[Wyle_E_Coyote]

I'm still a little confused how cold weather can unlock car doors? Someone please feel free to enlighten me.

RSBM

I lived in Michigan for 30+ years. I've never heard of such a thing and IMO it can't. Cold weather can ice up a lock so it can't be unlocked....you can buy little canisters of lock de-icer for that.

So I dunno what she's talking about. Maybe she misunderstood something.

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