CA - Joey, Summer, Gianni, Joseph Jr McStay Murders - Feb 4th 2010 #12

[missy1974]

Yes. True. And actually, I suspect that the DNA discovered on items in the graves came from those disinterring the objects-but DNA testing is so sensitive now, who knows?

Right! I am learning this in another case

 

[JMarsh]

I would be SHOCKED if other family members did not watch the live streams, they were not there every day. JMO

Yes. But if you know you are going to testify...you probably won't comment on-line as yourself. It's not a good idea, because anything that you tweet, etc. can be used in court. And there's no reason for her to comment on-line. The important comments she has to make, will be in court.

In my experience, people involved in the actual cases don't feel the need to participate in a chat room. They have real-world issues they are engaged in.

I don't know for sure, of course. But I kind of doubt it was her.

 

[wary]

Wonder why they would object to that?

From their standpoint, perhaps thinking that the defense is doing meaningless softball questions, just to give a sympathetic witness more time in front of the jury?

 

[citygirl]

She's a grown woman. If she was still a teenager, I could see that coming off as bad... but I don't think it would have the same effect as if she was still 15 like she was when this happened.

Who knows? I get easily confused. Is she 11, 15 or 20? I need visuals.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

You are forgetting that the defense has already shown that not all of Chase's known calls, pinged. They are bringing in phone experts. This is just an intro to the rebuttal.

"Intro to the Rebuttal"-should be a rap tune.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Rebuttal?

This isnt rebuttal.

This is the defense CIC.

Although I am sure the state will have rebuttal witnesses.

 

[missy1974]

They have two experts on the ping data, I think. Elluma may have been involved. But they also have a guy, whose name I wrote down, but I don't have it handy, who is an engineer and designs the equipment used by telephone companies.

They have way more than someone who just knows how to interpret a CDR. They have someone who understands, in depth, the science involved in what the CDRs are monitoring.

From OS's ... unsure of the spelling of his name though. Boles said in his testimony that 'an engineer would be able to answer that' to some questions from McGee, so hopefully he can.

We have a Vlad Jovanovic, who is our cell tower expert. We wanted somebody that knew cells, who knew cell networks. He has a Bachelor's of Science, Masters of Science, PhD in Electrical Engineering. He spent 35 years working in communication networks, 25 of that in cellular networks, where he optimized them. Checked them to see if they were working properly, developed them, tested them. He knows the towers and how they work and what they can tell you.

Elluma Discovery is for the computers.

 

[citygirl]

So if they show that there are other calls made to Chase or that Chase made that do not show on cross referenced records.... what does that show?

I don't know that they have more than the 1 I recall in testimony... but it does give me 'pause', and unfortunately, I cannot 100% rely on Boles testimony, as he proved he did not understand AT&T records. I am disappointed that the State did not 'recall' him to clear all of that up, which only leads me to one conclusion. JMO

Didn't we hear in the detectives interview that she regrouped and said it could have been the night before? Surely they have the records from the night before. But it was left dangling AFAIK.

 

[missy1974]

Who knows? I get easily confused. Is she 11, 15 or 20? I need visuals.

She was 15 in Feb 2010... so 24 now (presumably lol)

I was confused this morning, I thought they put on his 11 yr old daughter ... I was thinking omg that is just wrong lol

 

[travelbug]

How is she both?

I bolded her name in my post, as stated for the record, it is "Sara Taylor Jarvis".

 

[citygirl]

Yes. But if you know you are going to testify...you probably won't comment on-line as yourself. It's not a good idea, because anything that you tweet, etc. can be used in court. And there's no reason for her to comment on-line. The important comments she has to make, will be in court.

In my experience, people involved in the actual cases don't feel the need to participate in a chat room. They have real-world issues they are engaged in.

I don't know for sure, of course. But I kind of doubt it was her.

How do we know she was on the list? Where is this?

 

[JMarsh]

I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Rebuttal?

This isnt rebuttal.

This is the defense CIC.

Although I am sure the state will have rebuttal witnesses.

Right. But it is a rebuttal to the states CIC.

 

[JMarsh]

I bolded her name in my post, as stated for the record, it is "Sara Taylor Jarvis".

I didn't see that somehow. Thanks.

 

[MrsPC]

where are our tweets ?

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Well I will wait to see if phone records show that the phone did connect to Chase’s phone coz at the moment I’m not buying it. But if they do have proof then i shall be very impressed.

Right. I dont want to hear some hired gun expert testify to ..well it might have happened or it could have happened. That's nothing, but a opinion without supporting evidence.

I want to see irrefutable proof the call did go through, and not some hired expert just saying it might have happened.

Why did CJs go through but not the most important one?

Imo

 

[citygirl]

She was 15 in Feb 2010... so 24 now (presumably lol)

I was confused this morning, I thought they put on his 11 yr old daughter ... I was thinking omg that is just wrong lol

I was just messing with you, Missy.

 

[JMarsh]

Right. I dont want to hear some hired gun expert testify to ..well it might have happened or it could have happened. That's nothing, but a opinion without supporting evidence.

I want to see irrefutable proof the call did go through, and not some hired expert just saying it might have happened.

Imo

Are you suggesting that the expert witnesses for the state testified for free? That they just volunteered their time.?

We know the last witness cost the state 14 K.

 

[MrsPC]

Leticia Juarez‏ @ABC7Leticia
Back in session. My computer just died. So I’m on my phone & a bit slower on this. Bare with my live tweets pace.

 

[Mony Mony]

The tweeter said her computer died and is having to use her phone.

Sorry, couldn't figure out how to copy/paste

 

[MrsPC]

Leticia Juarez‏ @ABC7Leticia
Jarvis under redirect by Maline says she has not knowingly changed her testimony to detectives.

 

[missy1974]

Didn't we hear in the detectives interview that she regrouped and said it could have been the night before? Surely they have the records from the night before. But it was left dangling AFAIK.

In the Preliminary hearing, it was said that when she was confronted with the fact that a call didn't show on Merritt's records, she said 'And she remembered the phone call happening that way, but it was possibly a different night."

Here is where I am having difficulty with the 'phone' info.... Boles looked at and gave his report in 2014... they believe the info that they got from Boles to be true (Bachman's testimony)... however, like the conclusion given for the VM's not registering a tower was faulty, I cannot conclude that anything else isn't faulty, especially what they were given in 2014, since Boles actually updated that info in 2016 IIRC. It's JMO and I'm okay with other's believing what they want, but I think those beliefs have to based off of fact as well... if there is something in the witnesses testimony that can be proven to be untrue or faulty, the testimony as a whole should be questioned, which is... JUST MY OPINION... to be clear

I appreciate your posts @citygirl