CA - Joey, Summer, Gianni, Joseph Jr McStay Murders - Feb 4th 2010 #12

[JMarsh]

From OS's ... unsure of the spelling of his name though. Boles said in his testimony that 'an engineer would be able to answer that' to some questions from McGee, so hopefully he can.

We have a Vlad Jovanovic, who is our cell tower expert. We wanted somebody that knew cells, who knew cell networks. He has a Bachelor's of Science, Masters of Science, PhD in Electrical Engineering. He spent 35 years working in communication networks, 25 of that in cellular networks, where he optimized them. Checked them to see if they were working properly, developed them, tested them. He knows the towers and how they work and what they can tell you.

Elluma Discovery is for the computers.

Elluma doens't just handle computer discovery. They also work with cellular phone evidence. But they may only be working with the computer aspect of this case. I thought they might be involved with more, simply because their billing was for over a year.

 

[UndiscoveredTruth]

Leticia Juarez‏ @ABC7Leticia 8m8 minutes ago
Back in session. My computer just died. So I’m on my phone & a bit slower on this. Bare with my live tweets pace.

Leticia Juarez‏ @ABC7Leticia 6m6 minutes ago
Jarvis under redirect by Maline says she has not knowingly changed her testimony to detectives.

Leticia Juarez‏ @ABC7Leticia 1m1 minute ago
Rodriguez is asking Jarvis to identify in her trasnscript where she told detectives her parents argument over Merritt not picking up a call from McStay last through weekend. It’s not in the transcript.

 

[MrsPC]

Leticia Juarez‏ @ABC7Leticia
Rodriguez is asking Jarvis to identify in her trasnscript where she told detectives her parents argument over Merritt not picking up a call from McStay last through weekend. It’s not in the transcript.


(I'll stop posting the tweets now since Undiscovered Truth is posting)

 

[katydid23]

So why does this daughter not have Merritt's last name?

None of his children were given his last name. I find that revealing. JMO

 

[missy1974]

Right. I dont want to hear some hired gun expert testify to ..well it might have happened or it could have happened. That's nothing, but a opinion without supporting evidence.

I want to see irrefutable proof the call did go through, and not some hired expert just saying it might have happened.

Why did CJs go through but not the most important one?

Imo

Unfortunately ocean, I don't see irrefutable proof of anything in this trial. THAT is a problem for me JMO

 

[JMarsh]

In the Preliminary hearing, it was said that when she was confronted with the fact that a call didn't show on Merritt's records, she said 'And she remembered the phone call happening that way, but it was possibly a different night."

Here is where I am having difficulty with the 'phone' info.... Boles looked at and gave his report in 2014... they believe the info that they got from Boles to be true (Bachman's testimony)... however, like the conclusion given for the VM's not registering a tower was faulty, I cannot conclude that anything else isn't faulty, especially what they were given in 2014, since Boles actually updated that info in 2016 IIRC. It's JMO and I'm okay with other's believing what they want, but I think those beliefs have to based off of fact as well... if there is something in the witnesses testimony that can be proven to be untrue or faulty, the testimony as a whole should be questioned, which is... JUST MY OPINION... to be clear

I appreciate your posts @citygirl

The thing to understand about Boles and his presentation of the ping data, is regardless of updates, it is unbelievably superficial. Anyone can map an azimuth. I have mapped azimuths. But simply mapping the azimuth and showing possible coverage, does not actually give accurate information as to where someone might have been when a call was made, especially in regards to historical ping data.

And I'm not going to say much more, because I believe the defense will be covering this in full.

 

[missy1974]

The thing to understand about Boles and his presentation of the ping data, is regardless of updates, it is unbelievably superficial. Anyone can map an azimuth. I have mapped azimuths. But simply mapping the azimuth and showing possible coverage, does not actually give accurate information as to where someone might have been when a call was made, especially in regards to historical ping data.

And I'm not going to say much more, because I believe the defense will be covering this in full.

I bet an engineer can tell us more LOL Boles would agree. JMO

 

[JMarsh]

I bet an engineer can tell us more LOL Boles would agree. JMO

Of course. And that drive test will also be interesting.

 

[citygirl]

In the Preliminary hearing, it was said that when she was confronted with the fact that a call didn't show on Merritt's records, she said 'And she remembered the phone call happening that way, but it was possibly a different night."

Here is where I am having difficulty with the 'phone' info.... Boles looked at and gave his report in 2014... they believe the info that they got from Boles to be true (Bachman's testimony)... however, like the conclusion given for the VM's not registering a tower was faulty, I cannot conclude that anything else isn't faulty, especially what they were given in 2014, since Boles actually updated that info in 2016 IIRC. It's JMO and I'm okay with other's believing what they want, but I think those beliefs have to based off of fact as well... if there is something in the witnesses testimony that can be proven to be untrue or faulty, the testimony as a whole should be questioned, which is... JUST MY OPINION... to be clear

I appreciate your posts @citygirl

Appreciate yours even more.

 

[missy1974]

I hope our tweeter can keep up with her phone!!!

 

[katydid23]

You are forgetting that the defense has already shown that not all of Chase's known calls, pinged. They are bringing in phone experts. This is just an intro to the rebuttal.

"Intro to the Rebuttal"-should be a rap tune.

So the retrieved ping data cannot be relied upon for what the State assumes it means. But the defense can use ping data, to say what they claim it will mean? That's how it always works in trials...

 

[UndiscoveredTruth]

Leticia Juarez‏ @ABC7Leticia
Rodriguez is asking Jarvis to identify in her trasnscript where she told detectives her parents argument over Merritt not picking up a call from McStay last through weekend. It’s not in the transcript.


(I'll stop posting the tweets now since Undiscovered Truth is posting)

Thank you for posting the few you did, MrsPC..I was late grrrrr.

 

[UndiscoveredTruth]

Leticia Juarez‏ @ABC7Leticia 3m3 minutes ago
Rodriguez is questioning Jarvis’ memory of Feb 4, 2010. Rodriguez said Merritt never received a call on his cell phone from McStay. She wants to know if Jarvis knew that from sitting in on trial. And if she discussed it with her dad. She said yes.

Leticia Juarez‏ @ABC7Leticia 50s51 seconds ago
Did your dad tell you things you needed to remember for trial. Jarvis says no.

 

[missy1974]

Does anyone recall... was Ms. Jarvis there when CJ and Merritt had their convo recorded? Was it mentioned?

@Tortoise ?

 

[UndiscoveredTruth]

Leticia Juarez‏ @ABC7Leticia 2m2 minutes ago
Rodriguez asks if Jarvis is excited about documentary. She says yes. Then asks about how many interviews she’s given. Jarvis says three.

Leticia Juarez‏ @ABC7Leticia 48s49 seconds ago
Rodriguez has asked to approach the bench. #McStay

 

[missy1974]

Leticia Juarez‏ @ABC7Leticia 2m2 minutes ago
Rodriguez asks if Jarvis is excited about documentary. She says yes. Then asks about how many interviews she’s given. Jarvis says three.

Leticia Juarez‏ @ABC7Leticia 48s49 seconds ago
Rodriguez has asked to approach the bench. #McStay

This must be the TSG documentary...

Jon Knautz - IMDb

Two Shallow Graves: The McStay Family Murders <<< shows as "filming (2019)"

 

[UndiscoveredTruth]

Leticia Juarez‏ @ABC7Leticia 21s21 seconds ago
While we wait. This is Chase Merritt from earlier in the day. #McStay

 

[JMarsh]

The defense is so smart to put Taylor on the stand first. Looking forward to listening to her actual testimony.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Leticia Juarez‏ @ABC7Leticia 8m8 minutes ago
Back in session. My computer just died. So I’m on my phone & a bit slower on this. Bare with my live tweets pace.

Leticia Juarez‏ @ABC7Leticia 6m6 minutes ago
Jarvis under redirect by Maline says she has not knowingly changed her testimony to detectives.

Leticia Juarez‏ @ABC7Leticia 1m1 minute ago
Rodriguez is asking Jarvis to identify in her trasnscript where she told detectives her parents argument over Merritt not picking up a call from McStay last through weekend. It’s not in the transcript.

Wow! Rodriguez is smokin..hot today.

Not in the transcript! I really didnt think it would be anyway.

Maline needs to stay away from giving his witnesses a transcript they evidently don't read.

It opens the door wide open for the witness to be called out by the state.

Imo

 

[JMarsh]

Wow! Rodriguez is smokin..hot today.

Not in the transcript! I really didnt think it would be anyway.

Maline needs to stay away from giving his witnesses a transcript. It opens the door wide open for the witness to be called out by the state.

Imo

They all give their witnesses transcripts. This has been discussed numerous times on this case. They don't give them to LE and the experts, but, Michael McStay, same thing.