CA - Joey, Summer, Gianni, Joseph Jr McStay Murders - Feb 4th 2010 #14

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Just a selection of some of his utterances -


Joseph was one of my best friends

She was verbal,

Mikey and his mum called him Joey. And I know Summer always called him Giuseppe but I always knew him as Joseph.

Joseph wouldn’t have really wouldn’t have cared if I had gone in

I could actually tell you about what he weighed only because, I, the one of these articles here said his weight was 175 but he was 5’8? I would guess,

He was, he was
definitely shorter than me.

his boys were, I mean they would get up on the kitchen

No, she didn’t believe in it, she didn’t believe in any kind of corporal,

you know, but he was his brother. Um, Summer didn’t like him.

Just another coincidence
 
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What witness will be testifying tomorrow? Tia

Imo
I'm not sure if it will be Mikey? I know he was supposed to be their witness last week and they moved him to this week, but they also said it would be brief so I have no idea if they have another witness lined up also. It's only a morning session, so we shall see, and then the afternoon is a hearing about the sponge guy I think.
 
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Just a selection of some of his utterances -


Joseph was one of my best friends

She was verbal,

Mikey and his mum called him Joey. And I know Summer always called him Giuseppe but I always knew him as Joseph.

Joseph wouldn’t have really wouldn’t have cared if I had gone in

I could actually tell you about what he weighed only because, I, the one of these articles here said his weight was 175 but he was 5’8? I would guess,

He was, he was
definitely shorter than me.

his boys were, I mean they would get up on the kitchen

No, she didn’t believe in it, she didn’t believe in any kind of corporal,

you know, but he was his brother. Um, Summer didn’t like him.

Did the interviewer ask CM those questions in present tense?
 
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I was watching or listening to this trialon LawNewz Trials
and then it quit being video taped. Evidently, everyone is still watching somewhere. Can you tell me where?
 
  • #608
Did the interviewer ask CM those questions in present tense?
Yes, they're in the transcript I posted yesterday. The detectives had no knowledge that the family had been murdered. Quite a few of those examples weren't even in response to specific questions, they were just Merritt's ramblings and as the detective pointed out, it was highly unusual.
 
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I was watching or listening to this trialon LawNewz Trials
and then it quit being video taped. Evidently, everyone is still watching somewhere. Can you tell me where?
It's not being videod any more. The audio tapes are uploaded to YT at the end of each court day but trial has not been on for the past few weeks.

You can find all the uploads here McStay Family Murder Trial - YouTube
 
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Yes, they're in the transcript I posted yesterday. The detectives had no knowledge that the family had been murdered. Quite a few of those examples weren't even in response to specific questions, they were just Merritt's ramblings and as the detective pointed out, it was highly unusual.

As pointed before, it's possible for someone to assume a person is dead without being the cause of the death.
 
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As pointed before, it's possible for someone to assume a person is dead without being the cause of the death.
Not Merritt though, they asked him and he had no explanation for why he spoke of them in the past tense.
 
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Not Merritt though, they asked him and he had no explanation for why he spoke of them in the past tense.

Why did the interviewer ask in past tense, though?
 
  • #614
As pointed before, it's possible for someone to assume a person is dead without being the cause of the death.


Why would Chase of assumed the family were dead though?

The police didn’t at this stage it’s just more evidence he knew they were dead hence him speaking about them in the past tense.
 
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I'm not sure if it will be Mikey? I know he was supposed to be their witness last week and they moved him to this week, but they also said it would be brief so I have no idea if they have another witness lined up also. It's only a morning session, so we shall see, and then the afternoon is a hearing about the sponge guy I think.
Going from Niner's post, I thought we were dark this week for testimony?
 
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Why would Chase of assumed the family were dead though?

The police didn’t at this stage it’s just more evidence he knew they were dead hence him speaking about them in the past tense.

1. Does using past tense imply assumption of death?
2. If so, why did the interviewer use past tense in asking question?
 
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1. Does using past tense imply assumption of death?
2. If so, why did the interviewer use past tense in asking question?
Because the interviewer was using past tense I imagine.
 
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Why did the interviewer ask in past tense, though?
IMHO this is defense smoke and mirrors tactics and ignores the reality.

Questions don't change anyone's perception of whether someone they know is dead or alive.

JMO
 
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IMHO this is defense smoke and mirrors tactics and ignores the reality.

Questions don't change anyone's perception of whether someone they know is dead or alive.

JMO

Agreed

This is one of those things where language selection is automatic without conscious thought

You don't need to think whether to use past tense or not.

Your tense use reflects your current state of mind and will also be twigged instantly by anyone thinking in a different tense.
 
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