CA - Joey, Summer, Gianni, Joseph Jr McStay Murders - Feb 4th 2010 #14

[mothwings]

The eyes are the "windows into the soul" and Chase certainly has those dark, dead eyes that lots of killers do. Ailleen Wuornos and so on.

Plus, a lot has been said about his "grave digger look".

 

[la2cabo]

Snip

KAYE: Mike McStay went in and took the video card out of laptop computer and brought home the laptop computer.

RAMOS: Right.

CNN.com - Transcripts

Unless DA Ramos was on scene when the warrants were executed I don't think he would be fully aware of what was taken or not taken. I think DA Ramos misspoke and made an innocent mistake.

 

[smr]

Plus, a lot has been said about his "grave digger look".

So what about cemetery workers?

 

[katydid23]

That part is not very clear to me in the audio.

Really? Do you think Mike lied when he said he has no exhaust pipe in the back of his truck? I think the defense would be all over that , if so.

 

[Mica]

Unless DA Ramos was on scene when the warrants were executed I don't think he would be fully aware of what was taken or not taken. I think DA Ramos misspoke and made an innocent mistake.

I disagree. I believe Ramos was very aware of what the evidence was. Not a good practice for the DA to go on record without the facts, IMO.

 

[smr]

Just found out:
Ramos's name is Michael A. Ramos.
The judge's name is Michael A Smith.

 

[smr]

Really? Do you think Mike lied when he said he has no exhaust pipe in the back of his truck? I think the defense would be all over that , if so.

I was talking about the audio quality, I didn't hear it clearly last night. Haven't gone back to replay it.

 

[smr]

I disagree. I believe Ramos was very aware of what the evidence was. Not a good practice for the DA to go on record without the facts, IMO.

Indeed, if he's so careless, it could hurt him badly in elections.

 

[Tortoise]

Snip

KAYE: Mike McStay went in and took the video card out of laptop computer and brought home the laptop computer.

RAMOS: Right.

CNN.com - Transcripts

Maybe they should get Kaye in to testify.

 

[citygirl]

When was that (distributing flyers in Fallbrook)? Around what days?

Today was the first day I heard about it. I knew about the flyers at the border. Sounds as though they were close in time. Mikey mentioned it was when he met Cathy. I assume he meant Chase's wife? The DT asked him how many flyers he gave to Chase. He didn't recall. I so wish Mikey had said...ask him, he is sitting right next to you. He stuck to protocol and didn't go there.

 

[citygirl]

I recall reading about it, on the website that we aren't supposed to mention here.

Thanks. Had no clue.

 

[smr]

The DT asked him how many flyers he gave to Chase. He didn't recall. I so wish Mikey had said...ask him, he is sitting right next to you. He stuck to protocol and didn't go there.

Well, then it would also be interesting if MM had said "ask him, he is sitting right there" when asked who entered the house first when the two met to visit JM's house.

 

[citygirl]

And when the state says during cross that they were accusing Mike of murder, the defense strenuously objects, saying they never accused him of that....

Which makes no sense because it was obvious that they were trying to put his work truck there on the 4th and remind everyone that he and Summer had argued and that he somehow knew about the burial conditions

So denying that they were trying to blame Mikey seems disingenuous

Totally. And the judge knows that. Maline. Your honor can we approach? NO.

 

[citygirl]

Well, then it would also be interesting if MM had said "ask him, he is sitting right there" when asked who entered the house first when the two met to visit JM's house.

Per testimony it was Mikey who entered first. Do I have that wrong?

 

[Mountain Misst]

Per testimony it was Mikey who entered first. Do I have that wrong?

That's been the consensus since the beginning afaik - that CM stood back allowing MM to enter through a window.

 

[Mica]

Maybe they should get Kaye in to testify.

Agree.

 

[smr]

The DT asked him how many flyers he gave to Chase. He didn't recall. I so wish Mikey had said...ask him, he is sitting right next to you. He stuck to protocol and didn't go there.

I would like to get a clarification about whether MM met JM at Chick fil a on Feb. 4. A couple of posts here a day or two ago this was mentioned. So if MM gets asked, I wish he'd say, "ask him, he is sitting right there".

 

[smr]

I knew about the flyers at the border. Sounds as though they were close in time. Mikey mentioned it was when he met Cathy. I assume he meant Chase's wife?

There is another Cathy, Cathy Sanchez, whose name was mentioned in another recent testimony with SB. But this one is probably Chase's ex.

 

[citygirl]

That's been the consensus since the beginning afaik - that CM stood back allowing MM to enter through a window.

A window that CM allegedly alerted him to. An open window into the office. According to his interviews he had been there many days before, almost every day. Watering and feeding the dogs. Never went through that window until Mikey arrived. Also noted that the desk lamp was never turned off. Joey kept this on for the boys when they came down in the middle of the night to get water. Are we to believe this illuminated the stairs for them? They all slept in the same bedroom as far as we know . Are we then to believe that the 3 and 4 year old came down to get water unattended? Such BS from the defendant.

 

[smr]

Someone please message to Cathy Russon to ask someone to take at least one picture of each witness. That shouldn't be hard.