CA - Joey, Summer, Gianni, Joseph Jr McStay Murders - Feb 4th 2010 #2

[missy1974]

Isn't this the McStay forum?

eta I will if you show me the way.

this is the trial thread... which is great, but in a few weeks, they will be hard to find and I would hate for all your hard work to get buried in all the posts

I have started a new post in the McStay forum here: https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/opening-statements.413276/

If you can go copy all the OS in there, that would be great!!!!

 

[missy1974]

We are back after morning break

I was able to listen to a little bit this morning, but missed lots (need to get headphones for my phone lol) What have we learned??? anything??? lol

 

[la2cabo]

That's good to know and definitely something worth considering.

Unless one can provide a verifiable source for information about jealousy issues, early childhood family dynamics, etc. I would take it with a grain of salt.

 

[Unique]

@Tortoise thank you so much for the transcripts

 

[Tortoise]

this is the trial thread... which is great, but in a few weeks, they will be hard to find and I would hate for all your hard work to get buried in all the posts

I have started a new post in the McStay forum here: https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/opening-statements.413276/

If you can go copy all the OS in there, that would be great!!!!

Thank you missy. Shall I do it as one post or split it up again?

 

[asyousay]

Back from work have I missed anything of interest?

 

[Texas Red]

I have considered Joey being 'tied' up to get the password as well. My only issue with that is that we have no indication that Joey actually changed the pswd, and because we know that CM already had the password, he would have no need to 'get' it. I believe that Quickbooks would have had a log of the password change considering they kept logs of when it was accessed, what was done, etc.

If CM was able to access the account on the 2nd, Joey became aware of it the morning of or before the meeting with Chase on the 4th... why wouldn't Joey change his password immediately? That is just not logical to me at all. We know he had access to it on his phone, he had access to it at home... change the password before it happens again! JMO

Attempting to reconstruct the interplay of events that took place that day is a major challenge and the reason for my wild speculation. I wasn’t aware until you informed me that the online QB’s account logs all password changes, that knowledge pretty much shoots down my theory. However, there must be an explanation as to why JM was bound, which suggests to me there must have been a reason to keep him alive but the big question is why.

 

[missy1974]

Thank you missy. Shall I do it as one post or split it up again?

whatever works I am not sure if we have a limit on posts? I guess we will find out haha

It's going to be awesome to have those to go back and look at

 

[Tortoise]

Attempting to reconstruct the interplay of events that took place that day is a major challenge and the reason for my wild speculation. I wasn’t aware until you informed me that the online QB’s account logs all password changes, that knowledge pretty much shoots down my theory. However, there must be an explanation as to why JM was bound, which suggests to me there must have been a reason to keep him alive but the big question is why.

He doesn't want to create another bloody crime scene he is going to have to clean up. Maybe it wasn't a place where you could do a clean up, like a nice tiled floor. Just one idea.

 

[Tortoise]

whatever works I am not sure if we have a limit on posts? I guess we will find out haha

It's going to be awesome to have those to go back and look at

Ok, going to have my tea and will be back to do it after.

 

[Emi]

Cathy Russon on Twitter
Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson 45s45 seconds ago
#McStay - Det. DuGal still under cross examination by Rajan Maline. DuGal. Now talking about the stains found on the table. They weren't seen until photos came back. Maline asking about wood stain drips/spots.

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[missy1974]

Attempting to reconstruct the interplay of events that took place that day is a major challenge and the reason for my wild speculation. I wasn’t aware until you informed me that the online QB’s account logs all password changes, that knowledge pretty much shoots down my theory. However, there must be an explanation as to why JM was bound, which suggests to me there must have been a reason to keep him alive but the big question is why.

I guess I should be more clear... it's my opinion that they would log the password changes because of the knowledge that we do know they log other activity such as login in times, creating/deleting checks, backdating, etc. I would be shocked to find out that it wouldn't log in a password change as well.

JMO

I do agree though, trying to figure out how it all happened is hard ... ;-)

 

[Texas Red]

Unless one can provide a verifiable source for information about jealousy issues, early childhood family dynamics, etc. I would take it with a grain of salt.

I agree, possibly missarmchair, can provide a link that supports her statement “I also know Mike has had jealousy + anger issues towards Joey since childhood.”

 

[Emi]

Cathy Russon on Twitter
Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson 2m2 minutes ago
#McStay - Maline asked about the photog that took the pics. Was she looking for blood? DuGal said no, not her job.
Maline: Who was in that house looking for blood? Were you?
DuGal: Absolutely

 

[Emi]

Cathy Russon on Twitter
Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson 41s42 seconds ago
#McStay - DuGal said he thought he saw what looked like blood on this book. He had the tech test it but it was negative for blood.

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[missy1974]

I like Defense dude #1 better than defense dude #2... #2 is boring and I don't know... blah blah blah lol

 

[Bernina]

The table....I don't believe it was blood. Many pieces of furniture have patterns similar to that. I got these off of wood stain site images.

 

[Emi]

Cathy Russon on Twitter
Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson 4m4 minutes ago
#McStay - Maline: Do you know who this table belonged to? DuGal: The assumption is it's owned by the people that lived there Susan Blake testified this was her table she had loaned to Joseph.

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[Texas Red]

He doesn't want to create another bloody crime scene he is going to have to clean up. Maybe it wasn't a place where you could do a clean up, like a nice tiled floor. Just one idea.

Are you suggesting that JM was subdued at one location and then moved to another?

 

[Texas Red]

View attachment 164538 View attachment 164539 The table....I don't believe it was blood. Many pieces of furniture have patterns similar to that. I got these off of wood stain site images.

The resolution of your posted images is too low to show what you're describing.